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First post, by peter_shaw

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Hello,
I am new to vintage computing and recently got my hands on an old pentium machine with an AT power supply.
I measured the voltages. Sadly, they were a little bit out of spec:
5 V rail: 6,5 V
15 V rail: 16,5 V

I tried to remove the AT power connector, but it would not budge.
Any pointers? Just blunt force?

I started the PC anyway and it runs fine and stable. Even installed Win 95 on it.
Would you advice to replace the power supply, or is it fine?

My humble vintage PC collection: https://www.peter-shaw.de/2023/10/vintage-pcs/

Reply 1 of 9, by zyga64

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Standard AT PSU doesn't have 15V rail. 12V is max. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_sup ... g_diagrams
Is this some special/ custom computer ? Or maybe you multimeter has bad battery 😀

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Reply 2 of 9, by ciornyi

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It's very high values and definitely have to be replaced.

DOS: 166mmx/16mb/Y719/S3virge
DOS/95: PII333/128mb/AWE64/TNT2M64
Win98: P3_900/256mb/SB live/3dfx V3
Win Me: Athlon 1700+/512mb/Audigy2/Geforce 3Ti200
Win XP: E8600/4096mb/SB X-fi/HD6850

Reply 3 of 9, by peter_shaw

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I measured on an IDE connector. You are right, it should be 12 V, not 15 V. Maybe my multimeter is also bad? The PC runs fine..

My humble vintage PC collection: https://www.peter-shaw.de/2023/10/vintage-pcs/

Reply 6 of 9, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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peter_shaw wrote on 2023-08-24, 09:34:

Any hints on how to remove the AT power connector from the socket?

Try gently rocking each connector front to back whilst pulling up on them - they can be quite stiff, especially if they've never been removed since installation (may also be some mild oxidation in play)

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then just tilt to clear any locking lugs

Any pics you have may make things clearer

Reply 7 of 9, by zyga64

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peter_shaw wrote on 2023-08-24, 09:34:

I measured on an IDE connector. You are right, it should be 12 V, not 15 V. Maybe my multimeter is also bad? The PC runs fine..

Measure 12V line in another good known PC PSU. You will know for sure !

1) VLSI SCAMP /286@20 /4M /CL-GD5422 /CMI8330
2) i420EX /486DX33 /16M /TGUI9440 /GUS+ALS100+MT32PI
3) i430FX /K6-2@400 /64M /Rage Pro PCI /ES1370+YMF718
4) i440BX /P!!!750 /256M /MX440 /SBLive!
5) iB75 /3470s /4G /HD7750 /HDA

Reply 8 of 9, by peter_shaw

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any pointers on atx to at adaptors? I just read there might be Problems with some soundcards because they need -5 V, which ATX doesn't provide?

My humble vintage PC collection: https://www.peter-shaw.de/2023/10/vintage-pcs/

Reply 9 of 9, by DerBaum

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You can check if your cards need -5v if you look at the card and determinate if B5 of the ISA connector is connected on the card.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/common … SA_Bus_pins.png
Most of them dont use it...

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