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Which is the best and most memory efficient CD-driver?

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Reply 100 of 123, by Yoghoo

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gdjacobs wrote on 2022-08-24, 01:29:

CTMOUSE is great, but I ran into problems loading Overlord with it.
https://www.mobygames.com/game/overlord-

What was the exact problem and what version of CTMOUSE dit you use? I just tried the game with CTMOUSE version 2.1 beta4 and had no problems at all. Still looking for the first game that doesn't work with this driver so had to try it. 😜

Reply 101 of 123, by gdjacobs

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I think it was from the 1.9 series on Freedos. Can't tell you for sure which game version it was.

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Reply 102 of 123, by Intel486dx33

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Do you get driver conflicts or incompatibilities in Windows 3.x if you use a different driver other than MSCDEX.exe ?

Reply 104 of 123, by nuno14272

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10 KB ? is a lot....

1| 386DX40
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Reply 105 of 123, by Demolition-Man

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Had my problem with cd drivers...
On my oldest working PC (Compaq Prolinea 5120), VIDECDD.SYS works just fine with the old Sony 4x CD-ROM.

My other two older DOS/Win98 retro systeme are Super Socket 7, with more modern DVD-drives.
Everrything was working except CD audio. Tried three other sound cards, but still the same problem (only on DOS)
No it was the CD driver all the time.

I also tested a smaller replacement for mscdex (SHSUCDX), but at least one game was incompatible. Armored Fist 2, one of my favorites.^^
I recommend keeping mscdex , and using MTMCDAI.SYS as the CD driver. Of course, no optimization in memory, but the highest compatibility, at least for all my games.
If you should have any problems with the cd audio, you can test it:
https://www.file-upload.net/download-15106775 … TMCDAI.SYS.html

Reply 106 of 123, by nuno14272

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For CD audio usually you need the cable directly from DVD to sound card. At least is waht i use in older systems.

1| 386DX40
2| P200mmx, Voodoo 1
3| PIII-450, Voodoo 3 3000

Reply 107 of 123, by red_avatar

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Yoghoo wrote on 2022-08-24, 13:45:
gdjacobs wrote on 2022-08-24, 01:29:

CTMOUSE is great, but I ran into problems loading Overlord with it.
https://www.mobygames.com/game/overlord-

What was the exact problem and what version of CTMOUSE dit you use? I just tried the game with CTMOUSE version 2.1 beta4 and had no problems at all. Still looking for the first game that doesn't work with this driver so had to try it. 😜

Have you tried Delphine adventure games such as Cruise for a Corpse, Future Wars, etc. ? CTMOUSE just caused the cursor to fly to the side of the screen for me in these games.

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IBM PS1 386SX25 - 4MB
IBM Aptiva 486SX33 - 8MB - 2GB CF - SB16
IBM PC350 P233MMX - 64MB - 32GB SSD - AWE64 - Voodoo2
PIII600 - 320MB - 480GB SSD - SB Live! - GF4 Ti 4200
i5-2500k - 3GB - SB Audigy 2 - HD 4870

Reply 108 of 123, by Yoghoo

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red_avatar wrote on 2023-04-03, 10:58:
Yoghoo wrote on 2022-08-24, 13:45:
gdjacobs wrote on 2022-08-24, 01:29:

CTMOUSE is great, but I ran into problems loading Overlord with it.
https://www.mobygames.com/game/overlord-

What was the exact problem and what version of CTMOUSE dit you use? I just tried the game with CTMOUSE version 2.1 beta4 and had no problems at all. Still looking for the first game that doesn't work with this driver so had to try it. 😜

Have you tried Delphine adventure games such as Cruise for a Corpse, Future Wars, etc. ? CTMOUSE just caused the cursor to fly to the side of the screen for me in these games.

EDIT:
Just tested it with Cruise for a Corpse and no problems here with CTMOUSE version 2.1 beta4. This is on a 486/66 with Dos 6.22 and Qemm 9.0 EMM386.

Also tested it on a 386DX/25 with Dos 5.0 and Qemm 9.0 without problems

Reply 109 of 123, by Demolition-Man

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For CD audio usually you need the cable directly from DVD to sound card. At least is waht i use in older systems.

Sure. All my old systeme need the cd audio cable, because there is no Digital Audio option in Windows.
So the cable was there. CD audio an music CD worked fine in Windows, but no CD music of any kind on DOS.
Yeah, so wrong mixer settings? Nope, CD audio was on, still no music.
I randomly tested other cd drivers, and there was the solution.

Edit:
I have a similar problem with ctmouse. Version 2.0a4 works for me, but a newer version causes problems.
Siedler 2 (Settlers II) ->The entire pc freezes in the game start screen. I don't know why, but everything works again with the older ctmouse version.

Reply 110 of 123, by froller

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nuno14272 wrote on 2023-04-03, 10:17:

For CD audio usually you need the cable directly from DVD to sound card. At least is waht i use in older systems.

It depends on CD player program.
In late 90's I had used a player that works via IDE interface and doesn't requite analog cable between drive and sound card even under DOS.
BTW it's a good subject for Saturday evening software archaeology. I'm gonna look for it.

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Reply 111 of 123, by gdjacobs

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froller wrote on 2023-04-08, 00:24:
It depends on CD player program. In late 90's I had used a player that works via IDE interface and doesn't requite analog cable […]
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nuno14272 wrote on 2023-04-03, 10:17:

For CD audio usually you need the cable directly from DVD to sound card. At least is waht i use in older systems.

It depends on CD player program.
In late 90's I had used a player that works via IDE interface and doesn't requite analog cable between drive and sound card even under DOS.
BTW it's a good subject for Saturday evening software archaeology. I'm gonna look for it.

MPXPlay can do digital audio extraction, but most DOS games just use analog audio.

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Reply 112 of 123, by brunobox99

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I always use an old version of Jack. R. Ellis driver: XCDROM.SYS. It's small and does the job.

Reply 113 of 123, by Nemo1985

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It's good too bad that apparently the site is now dead, latest version was from 2022 first july if I remember right.

Reply 114 of 123, by insanitor

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I suggest that you boot the CD-ROM GOD floppy disk, find out which drivers work with your CD-ROM (there will be several, if the one from OAK works for you) and use the one that is the most memory efficient.

If that disk doesn’t work with your CD-ROM then your CD-ROM is broken or no driver for it exists.

That disk has 50 CD-ROM drivers on it. Or, was it 70? I don’t remember.

EDIT: It’s 50, not 70.

https://archive.org/details/cdgod55_exe

This is version 5.5. I might have a later version but I’d have to look.

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Reply 115 of 123, by Joakim

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I use the teac driver just because it lets you reduce the cd rom speed. Old games tend to read often and high speed CD Roms are disturbingly loud. Maybe not optimal memory wise but it works for me.

Reply 117 of 123, by darry

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r00tb33r wrote on 2024-08-12, 13:39:

Saw this the other day. Useful?

https://youtu.be/Nbw5klso-VY

Subject matter could be useful (conventional memory optimization), but unless there is something very specific in that video about CDROM drivers, I'm not sure how it's relevant to this thread.

Reply 118 of 123, by Nemo1985

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yes it's very verbose but in the end?
Are we all going to use 960kb of conventional ram? It doesn't seem so.

Reply 119 of 123, by r00tb33r

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Nemo1985 wrote on 2024-08-12, 15:27:

yes it's very verbose but in the end?
Are we all going to use 960kb of conventional ram? It doesn't seem so.

Yeah, but when you can get anything close to that you pretty much don't need to worry about the size of your TSRs... Just use whichever you like.