noshutdown wrote:

i got only 3, due to lack of cases and old hard drives. all my below-40gb hdds are dead(at least 4 of them) ----- this serves as […]
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i got only 3, due to lack of cases and old hard drives. all my below-40gb hdds are dead(at least 4 of them)
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this serves as win98 and agp2x videocards test platform. again there is no ISA slots, i also an asus cubx 440bx board with ISA slot, but lack of hdds forced me to turn the idea down.
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What kind of HDD do you look for, why you need little ones?, c'mon put some 160gb Seagate to that CUBX monster

I only have these two running at any given time, connected via KVM switch:

My main legacy gaming box:
Abit KT7A
Athlon XP 2100+
768MB RAM
Leadtek FX 5950 Ultra AGP
Voodoo 5500 PCI
AWE64 Gold
Running Win98SE

My Mechwarrior II / EF2000 / Longbow II / Archimedean Dynasty box:
Tyan Tomcat III S1563S
Pentium 200 MMX
128MB RAM
Matrox Millenium PCI with the 4MB RAM upgrade, for a total of 8MB RAM
Voodoo 4MB - Diamond Monster 3D
Soundblaster 16 with ASP chip and Waveblaster daughterboard
Running Win98SE

The rest of my collection:

My Voodoo 5 box:
Abit KT7A
Athlon 1400
768MB RAM
Voodoo 5500 AGP
AWE64 Gold
Running Win98SE

Another legacy box that I have in storage:
Abit KT7A
Athlon 1400
768MB RAM
BFG Ti4600 AGP
Dual Voodoo 2 cards in SLI (Diamond Monster 3D II)
AWE64 Value
Running Win98SE

Other builds I'm working on, in various states of disrepair:

Abit KT7A
Athlon 1400
768MB RAM
Gainward FX 5900 Ultra AGP
Dual Voodoo 2 cards in SLI (Creative)
AWE64 Gold
Running Win98SE

IBM NetVista A40 i815
Intel P3 1000 Coppermine
512MB RAM
Voodoo 3 3000 AGP
Soundblaster Live! Value (CT4830)
Running Win98SE

Abit KV85
Athlon 64 3400 Venice
1GB RAM
XFX 7900GS AGP
ATI HDTV Wonder
Soundblaster Live! Value (SB0220)
Running WinXP Pro

I currently have four: a Pentium 3 system as described in my sig, an AM386-33, an IBM 5150, and an Amstrad CPC6128. And that's more than enough. I only really use the P3 anyway. Keeping one DOS system organized and optimized is a full-time job already 🤣

I'm planning to use the 386 for everything the P3 is too fast for. I have no games or programs requiring a 5150 so I have no idea what to do with it yet. Same with the Amstrad.

jwt27 wrote:

I have no games or programs requiring a 5150 so I have no idea what to do with it yet.

I would hang onto it. You never know when a wayward time traveler might need one.

🤣

It's just a good thing I don't have more cases to go with my boxes of loose parts because I'm up to my waist in computers as it is.

KT7AGuy wrote:

I only have these two running at any given time, connected via KVM switch: […]
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I only have these two running at any given time, connected via KVM switch:

My main legacy gaming box:
Abit KT7A
Athlon XP 2100+
768MB RAM
Leadtek FX 5950 Ultra AGP
Voodoo 5500 PCI
AWE64 Gold
Running Win98SE

My Mechwarrior II / EF2000 / Longbow II / Archimedean Dynasty box:
Tyan Tomcat III S1563S
Pentium 200 MMX
128MB RAM
Matrox Millenium PCI with the 4MB RAM upgrade, for a total of 8MB RAM
Voodoo 4MB - Diamond Monster 3D
Soundblaster 16 with ASP chip and Waveblaster daughterboard
Running Win98SE

The rest of my collection:

My Voodoo 5 box:
Abit KT7A
Athlon 1400
768MB RAM
Voodoo 5500 AGP
AWE64 Gold
Running Win98SE

Another legacy box that I have in storage:
Abit KT7A
Athlon 1400
768MB RAM
BFG Ti4600 AGP
Dual Voodoo 2 cards in SLI (Diamond Monster 3D II)
AWE64 Value
Running Win98SE

Other builds I'm working on, in various states of disrepair:

Abit KT7A
Athlon 1400
768MB RAM
Gainward FX 5900 Ultra AGP
Dual Voodoo 2 cards in SLI (Creative)
AWE64 Gold
Running Win98SE

IBM NetVista A40 i815
Intel P3 1000 Coppermine
512MB RAM
Voodoo 3 3000 AGP
Soundblaster Live! Value (CT4830)
Running Win98SE

Abit KV85
Athlon 64 3400 Venice
1GB RAM
XFX 7900GS AGP
ATI HDTV Wonder
Soundblaster Live! Value (SB0220)
Running WinXP Pro

Ti4600 with Voodoo2 ? I dont understand it .KT7A is a piece of equipment

piportill4 wrote:

Ti4600 with Voodoo2 ? I dont understand it .KT7A is a piece of equipment

I chose the Ti4600 carefully for that box. I wanted a card that would offer ultimate compatibility with ultimate performance. With the Ti4600, I can run v30.82 Detonator drivers, or upgrade to v45.23 if necessary. It's also a native DX8 card, so it should work with just about anything I can throw at it except for GLIDE games. That's why I have the dual Voodoo 2 cards in SLI mode.

With the exception of Longbow II, I should be able to run practically anything on that configuration.

KT7AGuy wrote:

piportill4 wrote:

Ti4600 with Voodoo2 ? I dont understand it .KT7A is a piece of equipment

I chose the Ti4600 carefully for that box. I wanted a card that would offer ultimate compatibility with ultimate performance. With the Ti4600, I can run v30.82 Detonator drivers, or upgrade to v45.23 if necessary. It's also a native DX8 card, so it should work with just about anything I can throw at it except for GLIDE games. That's why I have the dual Voodoo 2 cards in SLI mode.

With the exception of Longbow II, I should be able to run practically anything on that configuration.

Jeez it's always something! Boxing in the Glide experience is a set of retro boxes in itself...

tincup wrote:

KT7AGuy wrote:

piportill4 wrote:

With the exception of Longbow II, I should be able to run practically anything on that configuration.

Jeez it's always something! Boxing in the Glide experience is a set of retro boxes in itself...

This is why the legacy PC gaming gods invented EEAH/EECH and blessed us with thriving community-developed updates:

http://eechcentral.simhq.com

But, yeah, Longbow II was unique and special; and not always in a good way. It's a real shame that it's such a finicky little program. The Voodoo 1 requirement is only one problem affecting it. CPU speed and RAM also have an adverse impact on it. If your CPU is too fast, the FFAR rockets act goofy. If you have more than 384mb of RAM, you have other issues.

You need a very carefully-designed PC to run Longbow II without problems. This is one of the primary reasons I keep my P200 around.

piportill4 wrote:

noshutdown wrote:

i got only 3, due to lack of cases and old hard drives. all my below-40gb hdds are dead(at least 4 of them) ----- this serves as […]
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i got only 3, due to lack of cases and old hard drives. all my below-40gb hdds are dead(at least 4 of them)
-----
this serves as win98 and agp2x videocards test platform. again there is no ISA slots, i also an asus cubx 440bx board with ISA slot, but lack of hdds forced me to turn the idea down.
.

What kind of HDD do you look for, why you need little ones?, c'mon put some 160gb Seagate to that CUBX monster

for me, all hdds larger than 128gb seem to cause win2000 or 98 installer to crash, winxp and newer works but not prefered for retro rigs.
also, one or two hdds below 30gb are needed to flash the bios of old boards before it can recognize larger ones.

How come you say Voodoo1 is a requirement for longbow2?. It runs on the Voodoo2

Longbow 2 is indeed finicky, but I've run it successfully on V1 through V5. There was a great little site, now defunct I think, with an installation and patching tutorial that was very helpful and addressed ram/cpu issues too. Can't find my link right now - "spreict" something?. I have not fully tested my current P4-2.8/V5 installation so not sure yet about the FFAR rocket problem - but simulation, flight speed, graphics and handling are all fine.

vetz, tincup,

Thanks for the info! I was always under the impression that LB2 would only work with a Voodoo 1. I'll have to try it out later on my V5 machine to see if I can get it going. If you happen to come across that webpage, please link to it. I'd really like to see if I can get it running on a better system.

I found this video of a guy running it successfully with nGlide on Win7 64:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmtk3ytwCSI

He claims to have it working without any problems and links to an install guide at SimHQ. I'll definitely have to check that out later.

Thanks! 😀

Found it - here you go:
http://digitality.comyr.com/speichts/lb2/index1.html

Bookmarked it! Thanks very much! 😀

Would that every older [and finicky] game have such a concise and helpful site to fall back on. The author passed on a few years back but has left us a nice source as a gaming legacy.

A worthy game like Longbow 2 reinforces the legitimacy of retro gaming as well, since to keep it alive, many people will find it more expedient just to build a retro rig in the end.

Too much... but still looking for more 😉

- 286 12mhz, 4mb, 42mb hdd, cl5422, sb16
- 386SX-33mhz, 4mb, 260mb hdd, Tseng 4000ax, sb16
- 386DX-40mhz, 387, 8mb, 1gb hdd, cl5429 2mb isa, sb16
- 486DLC-40mhz, 487, 8mb, 4gb hdd, s3 805 vlb, sb16
- 486DX2-66mhz
- 486DX4-100mhz, 16mb, 512mb hdd, cl5428 vlb, sb16
- 486DX5-133@160, 32mb, 2gb hdd, Diamond Stealth 2000, sb16
- Pentium 166mmx/233mmx, 128mb, 4gb hdd, Voodoo3 3000 16mb pci, awe64 value
- P-3 833mhz, 512mb, 80gb hdd, V3 3000 16 agp, sblive
- Duron 1200, 512mb, 40gb hdd, gf4200ti 64mb
- Celeron 800@1100mhz, 512mb, 40gb hdd, tnt2

- Atari 2600jr
- Atari 800xl
- Atari 130xe
- Atari 1040stfm
- Amiga 1200 + Blizzard 1230 iv 32mb, 8gb cf

kixs wrote:

Too much... but still looking for more ;-) […]
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Too much... but still looking for more 😉

- 286 12mhz, 4mb, 42mb hdd, cl5422, sb16
- 386SX-33mhz, 4mb, 260mb hdd, Tseng 4000ax, sb16
- 386DX-40mhz, 387, 8mb, 1gb hdd, cl5429 2mb isa, sb16
- 486DLC-40mhz, 487, 8mb, 4gb hdd, s3 805 vlb, sb16
- 486DX2-66mhz
- 486DX4-100mhz, 16mb, 512mb hdd, cl5428 vlb, sb16
- 486DX5-133@160, 32mb, 2gb hdd, Diamond Stealth 2000, sb16
- Pentium 166mmx/233mmx, 128mb, 4gb hdd, Voodoo3 3000 16mb pci, awe64 value
- P-3 833mhz, 512mb, 80gb hdd, V3 3000 16 agp, sblive
- Duron 1200, 512mb, 40gb hdd, gf4200ti 64mb
- Celeron 800@1100mhz, 512mb, 40gb hdd, tnt2

- Atari 2600jr
- Atari 800xl
- Atari 130xe
- Atari 1040stfm
- Amiga 1200 + Blizzard 1230 iv 32mb, 8gb cf

I would really like to see a pic of your room or the place where you got 'em

I must admit, that these are all hidden in a closet. What shows are only PC's that I currently use - Phenom X6 (mostly switched off) with 26" & 22" LCD and IBM X61s that I use for surfing the web (on 26" LCD vga port).

But I hope, that in some, not too distant future, I'll have a room dedicated to my stuff. So it won't be hidden away 😉

kixs wrote:

Too much... but still looking for more ;-) […]
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Too much... but still looking for more 😉

- 286 12mhz, 4mb, 42mb hdd, cl5422, sb16
- 386SX-33mhz, 4mb, 260mb hdd, Tseng 4000ax, sb16
- 386DX-40mhz, 387, 8mb, 1gb hdd, cl5429 2mb isa, sb16
- 486DLC-40mhz, 487, 8mb, 4gb hdd, s3 805 vlb, sb16
- 486DX2-66mhz
- 486DX4-100mhz, 16mb, 512mb hdd, cl5428 vlb, sb16
- 486DX5-133@160, 32mb, 2gb hdd, Diamond Stealth 2000, sb16
- Pentium 166mmx/233mmx, 128mb, 4gb hdd, Voodoo3 3000 16mb pci, awe64 value
- P-3 833mhz, 512mb, 80gb hdd, V3 3000 16 agp, sblive
- Duron 1200, 512mb, 40gb hdd, gf4200ti 64mb
- Celeron 800@1100mhz, 512mb, 40gb hdd, tnt2

- Atari 2600jr
- Atari 800xl
- Atari 130xe
- Atari 1040stfm
- Amiga 1200 + Blizzard 1230 iv 32mb, 8gb cf

4 x 486's

I admire your commitment 😀