HighTreason wrote:

Never met another synth that allows adjusting master volume remotely, it damaged the input on one of my sound cards with that behavior. I think overall it was a short sighted design decision to implement that.

How? What kind of input?

I have hooked up all kinds of things that shouldn't be hooked up to a soundcard and yet to blow an input

Some days you get really lucky and strike a great deal. It was one of these days. Some guy was selling locally a Tualatin 1.4 on a QDI Advance 10T for a mere 25E. I quickly snatched it, went home and was even more delighted to find that it the 512KB chip too! Kind of a steal and now I have a working Tualatin system 😁.

I should note that this is the case it came with, along with some other stuff like a Radeon 9250.

My first reaction was ISA+PCI+AGP+PCIe? 😀

^ that's a useless AMR slot IIRC

Yep. I disabled all the internal sound card crap, removed the 9250 and shitty stock heatsink and installed some of my own cards.

System is now flying with Aureal Vortex 2, GeForce FX 5700 and ThermalTake Copper cooler. As much as you can fly with a GeForce FX card anyway, I'd reckon this is about as fast as a Ti 4400-4600 for the most part 🤣 .
Only thing that's slightly disappointing is that overclocking is not really an option with this board, it only allows me to increase the bus to 136MHz, so I might as well leave it on stock 🤣 .

keropi wrote:

^ that's a useless AMR slot IIRC

I never did understood the point of AMR, ACR, CNR, or any of those things. I own a modem that fits one of those, but I've never used it in anything (got it for free with a box of stuff). Those riser things came out when things like audio were already getting integrated into system boards, and modems were already available freely for PCI, so what was the point?

It was supposed to be useful for OEMs, but never for the general public. I have no idea why so many retail boards have it.

Have a few AMR and CNR modems, around here dial-up was the prominent connection until the mid-2000s so they were immensely useful, cheap and easy to obtain.

HighTreason wrote:

Have a few AMR and CNR modems, around here dial-up was the prominent connection until the mid-2000s so they were immensely useful, cheap and easy to obtain.

IIRC, they were US mostly because of the legislature (the FCC analog devices certification). Never seen any in my country...

By the way, can someone tell me the last ASUS motherboard model with ISA support? There is the archive.org but maybe someone know the answer right here?
Tnx.

IIRC, it was P3C2000, but I would STRONGLY recommend not to use it ever. P3B-F would be the best way to go, if you ask me.

Gamecollector wrote:

HighTreason wrote:

Have a few AMR and CNR modems, around here dial-up was the prominent connection until the mid-2000s so they were immensely useful, cheap and easy to obtain.

IIRC, they were US mostly because of the legislature (the FCC analog devices certification). Never seen any in my country...

Actually, I never saw them in stores, but every Computer Fair and LAN Party that came had this guy who sold them.

That guy was cool, because he used to carry CD's in his pocket and could remember what order they were in without looking. He sold hardware stupidly cheap (Was about 99p per modem), sold pirate software and also sold food such as "PK Crisps", "Dr Pop" and at one point "New Coke/Coke II" alongside "Crystal Pepsi", "Galak" (Milky Bar) and some arabic versions of common food and drink... One time he had these Pepsi cans with Cyrillic writing on them too so I guess those came from Eastern Europe. Sometimes he got a phone call from a bloke called Dean and would wheel his stall out into his car before disappearing, only for Police men to show up a few minutes later. He also used to call Dean if he spotted someone selling software he didn't have so that Dean could bring him some copies to sell cheaper.

HighTreason that guy sounds like he had a pretty sweet setup going on! (not that I support illegal activities by any means) He sounds like a James Bond villian xD

I Just bought this board. An Abit AB-PB4 with an unkown CPU and unknown memory. Untested.

Abit AB PB4. (Bad image from the auction)

The price was 49 US which seems reasonable compairing with other boards on sale inside the EU. The shipping was also 49 US which isnt reasonable at all but I haggled the price for the board down to 30 US to make up for the unreasonable shipping cost.

I do not like to buy untested stuff but when it comes to nice 486 gear it seems to be the only way to avoid paying through the nose. At least the board dosnt have a barrel battery that can leak all over.

Gamecollector wrote:

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HighTreason wrote:

Have a few AMR and CNR modems, around here dial-up was the prominent connection until the mid-2000s so they were immensely useful, cheap and easy to obtain.

IIRC, they were US mostly because of the legislature (the FCC analog devices certification). Never seen any in my country...

By the way, can someone tell me the last ASUS motherboard model with ISA support? There is the archive.org but maybe someone know the answer right here?
Tnx.

I'm in the UK, and I own either a AMR or CNR modem, not to mention I've seen motherboards with said slots over here as well.

Gotta love it when someone is selling "Miscellaneous Card", you buy it...

... and it turns out to be...

...Canopus Pure3D Voodoo1 w/ 6MB in mint condition. 😎

Today was a good day.

NICE!!!!

Picked up a beige LCD monitor.

alexanrs wrote:

It was supposed to be useful for OEMs, but never for the general public. I have no idea why so many retail boards have it.

Probably because the royalty payments are less than if they used a PCI slot.You don't even need a PCI slot if all you're going to use it for is a 56k modem. You can get by with a lot fewer pins making the board around that slot a little easier to design.

sliderider wrote:

alexanrs wrote:

It was supposed to be useful for OEMs, but never for the general public. I have no idea why so many retail boards have it.

Probably because the royalty payments are less than if they used a PCI slot.You don't even need a PCI slot if all you're going to use it for is a 56k modem. You can get by with a lot fewer pins making the board around that slot a little easier to design.

That would be fine if it was a general data bus (even a slow one). but making it a audio interface and relying the CPU to do the work is a stupid idea.

Generally CNR is a good try. It's PnP, have both USB and AC'97 signals. Can be software or hardware. And CNR slot can be shared with PCI slot.
The only question is - IIRC there are 2 versions of CNR pin-outs. So maybe these two versions are incompatible and supports not all features all-at-once.
But AMR?
The only positive thing - AMR slot can be shared with ISA slot.