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Reply 20 of 27, by meljor

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I would pair it with a voodoo1 and a matrox g200. I wanted to build a Cyrix sytem but is was to slow for me, tested a 233 and a 300 but even a 166mmx did feel way better in games.
Will try again sometime with a better mobo, hopefully it helps a bit.

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Reply 21 of 27, by leileilol

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ODwilly wrote:

Really really cheap/free and common how about a Geforce 4 mx card?

Bottlenecked, and per the reasons in my previous post

The topic title says "GPU that makes sense", and Pentium 4-class hardware in barelyPentium-class machines aren't.

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Reply 22 of 27, by candle_86

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leileilol wrote:
ODwilly wrote:

Really really cheap/free and common how about a Geforce 4 mx card?

Bottlenecked, and per the reasons in my previous post

The topic title says "GPU that makes sense", and Pentium 4-class hardware in barelyPentium-class machines aren't.

well honestly the Geforce 4 MX is more Pentium3/Athlon Classic hardware, considering it is about as fast as a Geforce 2 GTS 🤣.

but in the same sense, it wont harm anything to introduce that bottleneck, it means you can always have every setting cranked in every game the cpu supports.

Reply 23 of 27, by ODwilly

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I just figured it would make sense from an on-hand point of view, since these seem so common. Great 9x drivers and it is a fairly useless card that today no one would pair with a P4.

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Reply 24 of 27, by leileilol

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I would love to use a GF4MX with my P4s if it didn't mean killing the PCX2 IMHO. I would prefer it over the just-as-available FX5200

However in the context of a Cyrix6x86 all I can think of is the classic S3 Trio+V2 combo

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Reply 25 of 27, by ODwilly

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leileilol wrote:

I would love to use a GF4MX with my P4s if it didn't mean killing the PCX2 IMHO. I would prefer it over the just-as-available FX5200

However in the context of a Cyrix6x86 all I can think of is the classic S3 Trio+V2 combo

I 100% agree with both of these statements. For Pentium 4's the Geforce 6200 seems to be really nice and destroys the fx5200 in every way possible. The pci version can really be a saving grace for some of the systems that lack AGP.

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Reply 26 of 27, by sliderider

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noshutdown wrote:

i always say go with geforce2mx. they are cheap, with t&l support, and decent power consumption. yeah they may be a bit overkill, but t&l does help your games run a bit faster than older ones.

HW T&L only started becoming popular in games after DX8 was released and there are no DX8 games that would run acceptably on a 6x86.I would try a Matrox Millenium G200 with a Voodoo 1.

Reply 27 of 27, by noshutdown

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leileilol wrote:

HW T&L would only apply to moving models and such in later idTech3 and other OpenGL games though, which are impractical to play on a 6x86 in the first place. especially mcuh later D3D7+ games that began utilizing T&L extensively. i mean you wouldn't bother playing NOLF2 or BF1942 on a Cyrix6x86 would you?

look at this report, its hard to understand that gf2mx smoked older cards like tnt, rage128vr and g200 even on a 486-160:
Modern graphics on a 486