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First post, by CompuClassics

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I got a shortcut setted up on my Windows 98SE machine that boots me to MS-DOS Mode with EMM386 support.

However, I also want to be able to boot without any memory managers whatsoever (For games that make use of their own managers like Zone66 or Ultima7)

Which settings should I change so that I'm only using Conventional Memory?

CONFIG.SYS Settings for the current shortcut I have
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM:OFF
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE RAM
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DRIVERS\VIDECDD.SYS /D:OPTICAL

AUTOEXEC.BAT settings for the current shortcut I have
SET TMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
SET TEMP=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP
SET PROMPT=$p$g
SET winbootdir=C:\WINDOWS
SET PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND
LH C:\DRIVERS\CTMOUSE.EXE /R2
LH C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE /D:OPTICAL
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 T6 E620
SET SOUND=C:\SB16
SET CTCM=C:\CTCM
C:\CTCM\CTCM.EXE
C:\SB16\AWEUTIL.COM /S
C:\SB16\MIXERSET.EXE /P /Q

System Specs
Pentium 200MHz MMX
32MB RAM
Sound Blaster AWE64 (Got a Roland MT-32 also)
ATI Mach64 2MB
6.49GB HardDrive
Windows 98SE

Reply 1 of 5, by PhilsComputerLab

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You could copy and paste the shortcut, and delete the lines to do with EMM386 and HIMEM

Here are mine, it has a menu and you can choose what memory you want:

CONFIG:

[COMMON] DOS=NOAUTO DOS=HIGH,UMB FILES=30 BUFFERS=30 LASTDRIVE=H DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\SETVER.EXE […]
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[COMMON]
DOS=NOAUTO
DOS=HIGH,UMB
FILES=30
BUFFERS=30
LASTDRIVE=H
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\SETVER.EXE

[menu]
menuitem=EMC, Expanded memory + Mouse + CD-ROM
menuitem=XMC, Extended memory + Mouse + CD-ROM
menuitem=CMC, Conventional Memory only + Mouse + CD-ROM
menuitem=EM, Expanded memory + Mouse
menuitem=XM, Extended memory + Mouse
menuitem=CM, Conventional memory only + Mouse

menudefault=EMC,10

[EMC]
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM:OFF
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE RAM
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DRIVERS\VIDECDD.SYS /D:OPTICAL

[XMC]
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM:OFF
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DRIVERS\VIDECDD.SYS /D:OPTICAL

[CMC]
DEVICEHIGH=C:\DRIVERS\VIDECDD.SYS /D:OPTICAL

[EM]
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM:OFF
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE RAM

[XM]
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM:OFF

[CM]

AUTOEXEC

LH C:\DRIVERS\CTMOUSE.EXE /R2 GoTo %config% :EMC :XMC :CMC LH C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE /D:OPTICAL :EM :XM :CM […]
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LH C:\DRIVERS\CTMOUSE.EXE /R2
GoTo %config%
:EMC
:XMC
:CMC
LH C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND\MSCDEX.EXE /D:OPTICAL
:EM
:XM
:CM

MS-DOS mode can be a bit tricky. So I made a tutorial a while ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6HzttM6wS0

Last edited by PhilsComputerLab on 2015-05-22, 05:40. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 2 of 5, by CompuClassics

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So I decided to try out this configuration you posted though I had to copy Himem and EMM386 to a DOS Folder I had to make before the other memory settings worked
However, the CD Drivers didn't worked when I tried this alternate config for some reason (It worked in the configuration settings I used previously)

Last edited by CompuClassics on 2015-05-22, 05:42. Edited 2 times in total.

Reply 3 of 5, by PhilsComputerLab

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CompuClassics wrote:

So I decided to try out this configuration you posted though I had to copy Himem and EMM386 to a DOS Folder I had to make before the other memory settings worked
However, the CD Drivers didn't worked when I tried this alternate config for some reason (It worked in the configuration settings I used previously)

Oh dear, I pasted the startup files for MS-DOS 6.22. Sorry about that.

I've changed the original post.

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Reply 5 of 5, by Jorpho

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CompuClassics wrote:

However, I also want to be able to boot without any memory managers whatsoever (For games that make use of their own managers like Zone66 or Ultima7)

Unless you actually intend to play those games specifically, it's probably not worth worrying about. (In particular, Zone 66 doesn't require a CD-ROM drive, and much the same probably applies to whatever other games out there don't like memory managers. U7 would be the exception, but even if you don't want to use Exult for Ultima 7, U7Run will work just as well and let you use the original engine.)