Hi! I recently configured DOS mode for a Vibra 16 under Win9x, and found that the most appropiate drivers (at least, in my case) for these sound cards under Win9x are the sbw9xup update. You can download it form our mate's philscomputerlab webpage (http://www.philscomputerlab.com/drivers-for-awe64-gold.html).

After that, you will find your sound devices with an 'updated' driver from Creative dated 12-10-1997. In this case is an AWE64, but for the CT4170 I used the same driver pack and worked just fine!

Hm, it worked to some extent. Meaning, I don't have an unsupported device anymore, but the joystick still can't be detected, and the entry says Gameport Joystick instead of Creative Gameport Joystick.

jheronimus wrote:

Hm, it worked to some extent. Meaning, I don't have an unsupported device anymore, but the joystick still can't be detected, and the entry says Gameport Joystick instead of Creative Gameport Joystick.

Does it refer to this driver (Driver provider: Creative, Date: 1997) under the Driver tab? I suppose you reset your computer at least one time. Anyway, I don't remember the specific name of the device for the Vibra card (i can´t try it right now 😀)

No, it's Microsoft, that's the thing. I actually tried rebooting twice. First with joystick off and joystick on.

What are the full specs of the machine? Do you have any onboard audio solution? If so, did you disable both the onboard chip and the onboard gameport+MPU (sometimes they could be disabled separately)?

alexanrs wrote:

What are the full specs of the machine? Do you have any onboard audio solution? If so, did you disable both the onboard chip and the onboard gameport+MPU (sometimes they could be disabled separately)?

- Pentium MMX 200, overclocked to 250 MHz;
- 64 MB SDRAM;
- S3 Virge 325;
- VooDoo 2 V-1000;
- Vibra 16XV CT4170;
- 40+80 GB HDD;
- 52X CD-RW;
- 100MB NIC.

The motherboard is AOpen AP5T, there is no integrated sound solution

Can you get it to work on pure DOS mode? If you can't that the issue might not be the Windows drivers to begin with.

alexanrs wrote:

Can you get it to work on pure DOS mode? If you can't that the issue might not be the Windows drivers to begin with.

What do I need to get the joystick working under DOS? It does not come with any drivers and I'm not sure it needs them

Go to phil's page again and get the files under the "MS-DOS of Windows 9x" section. I know you must run CTCM to initialize a PnP SoundBlaster under DOS, and then you can run DIAGNOSE to see if its alright.

Hi! Back to the driver issue, I found that if I let Windows to automatically install drivers for the 'Gameport Joystick' device, it chooses the Microsoft one by default. I had to manually choose the Creative one from C:\Windows\Inf\SB16AWE.inf to make the system recognise it with the driver you just downloaded.

I don't now if it will work in this case, I don't have any gameport joystick here to try...

I used a Vibra 16 recently, the card got detected automatically, but I did also install the Creative driver updates. I didn't test the joystick however. The start-up sound was a bit distorted, but I didn't do any more tests.

looking at what u wrote my first thought is:
try removing the overclock untill u get everything installed properly
in my experience overclocks always have the possiblity of introducing strange behaviours

i just recently installed a vibra16 on my 386DX40 and yes i could not use the card at all untill i ran CTCU + CTCM but mine was a CT2960 vibra card
i downloaded the drivers from vogons drivers the disks for DOS it was 2 disks.. i think i only needed one of the two disks tho

if the joystick isnt being detected - wouldnt that most likely be because whoever used the card last had disabled the joystick port in CTCM + CTCU?

but win95 + win98 are pnp operating systems.. to configure it properly CTCU + CTCM in dos i think u would have to reserve the IRQs in the bios for the Legacy ISA Bus so that win95/98 doesnt take control of those resources for its own pnp management.