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Reply 14280 of 53040, by Carlos S. M.

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chose007 wrote:
another Willametes and Xeons […]
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another Willametes and Xeons

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I see a Tualatin CPU in there, also some possible socket 370 terminators for dual CPU systems

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What is your biggest Pentium 4 Collection?
Socket 423/478 Motherboards with Universal AGP Slot
Socket 478 Motherboards with PCI-E Slots
LGA 775 Motherboards with AGP Slots
Experiences and thoughts with Socket 423 systems

Reply 14283 of 53040, by Rhuwyn

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/182324647270

Just picked up this eBay lot. 2 Matrox m3D cards (PCX2) and an STB Lightspeed Tseng Lab ET6000 based car for 100 shipped.

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Reply 14284 of 53040, by Rhuwyn

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PhilsComputerLab wrote:

Bought a few AM2 CPUs. This era is all a bit unknown to me, so I'm doing lots of research. AM2 CPUs seem to be a lot easier to find compared to the 939, which is nice 😀

Love AM2 CPUs makes great Windows XP machines.

Reply 14285 of 53040, by Cyrix200+

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Nice! Where did you get all this? In my country this is all quite rare!

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Nice 3DLabs picking 😀 Everybody has 3Dlabs now for few coins.

I havent 3DLabs but got another things.

1982 to 2001

Reply 14286 of 53040, by Carlos S. M.

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James-F wrote:

Never quote a post with tons of pictures without editing. You just made the loading of the page twice as long and very uncomfortable to read.
This is rule #1 on any forum on the internet.
Sorry, just saying what everybody thinking...😒

Sorry... i edited the post just in case

What is your biggest Pentium 4 Collection?
Socket 423/478 Motherboards with Universal AGP Slot
Socket 478 Motherboards with PCI-E Slots
LGA 775 Motherboards with AGP Slots
Experiences and thoughts with Socket 423 systems

Reply 14287 of 53040, by Carlos S. M.

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PhilsComputerLab wrote:
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Well it's quite easy : 1) 90nm > 65nm (L2 cache is slower on 65nm [latency wise, it was fixed in late 65nm revisions], also 65nm […]
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Well it's quite easy :
1) 90nm > 65nm (L2 cache is slower on 65nm [latency wise, it was fixed in late 65nm revisions], also 65nm K8 can't clock much higher than 90nm K8.
2) AM2 MB can mount AM2+ CPU's (Phenom gen. 1), but not AM3 ones.
3) AM2 and S939 performance difference is... 0-5% (basicly, DDR2 bandwidth isn't needed for K8's x2 cpus).
4) Fastest AM2 CPU is Athlon64 6400+ x2 (it's 90nm 😀), and Athlon64 FX-62 is... pointless (assuming you don't need unlocked multi).
5) Watch out for 2x1MB vs. 2x512kB (I think all 65nm chips have 512kB L2 per core, 90nm can have either 1MB or 512kB per core).

PS. You need a "F" revision of K8 core, to have full hardware support for official versions of Windows 8.1 x64/Windows 10 x64.

Thanks 😁

You mention a few CPUs I went for. I tend to get the top end models, that way I can simulate the lower versions by lowering the multipler. It's a really exciting period with lots of CPUs, switch to dual core, switch from AGP to PCIe, DX9 to DX10, very interesting.

Well. Also that AM2 main rivals were:
Pentium D 900 series like 940, 950, 960..
Pentium Extreme Edition 955 and 965
Core 2 Duo E6xxx
Core 2 Duo E4xxx

I don't have any 2x 1 MB Athlon 64 X2, but i have an Opteron 1216 which is similar to the Athlon 64 x2 4600+ 90 nm

What is your biggest Pentium 4 Collection?
Socket 423/478 Motherboards with Universal AGP Slot
Socket 478 Motherboards with PCI-E Slots
LGA 775 Motherboards with AGP Slots
Experiences and thoughts with Socket 423 systems

Reply 14288 of 53040, by chose007

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Carlos S. M. wrote:

I see a Tualatin CPU in there, also some possible socket 370 terminators for dual CPU systems

Yep 1300 Celeron and terms

kanecvr wrote:

@chose007 - great haul - I hope they bring you hours of enjoyment 😀

Almost all working for fast test, so its ok.

Cyrix200+ wrote:

Nice! Where did you get all this? In my country this is all quite rare!

Mainly from scrap. Here 5x rare 😀 Its luck and long fingers.

I got some newer things but interesting too I think

another Asus 875P board, full BOX

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and nice cooler for sA

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Reply 14289 of 53040, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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I'm back. Picked up a few items for my era-appropriate 680i SLI based powerhouse machine. Todays Theme: Space Heaters

Antec Earthwatts EA500D 80+ Bronze Power Supply (408w on the 12v rail, should be enough). Paid 25 (Seller had 5)

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EVGA NVIDIA GeForce 9800GTX+ 512MB PCI-E (Paid 8.50 + 6.50 shipping). This will most likely go in place of the 8800GTX (I also plan to benchmark the 2 agianst each other)

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Masscool LGA775 CPU Cooler (Cooling a E7500 with barely any thermal greese until i have 25 or so extra bucks to buy a E8600 and some Arctic Silver 5). Paid 10 new from Newegg

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I still need a hard drive for that build but thats about it. I'll probably get a DVD-Drive if i can find one cheap but IDK at this point. I'm just hoping neither the ancient power supply or horrible bad CPU cooler fails.

Cyb3rst0rms Retro Hardware Warzone: https://discord.gg/jK8uvR4c
I used to own over 160 graphics card, I've since recovered from graphics card addiction

Reply 14291 of 53040, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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Jade Falcon wrote:

People still use ac5? Such a bad buy these days.

Arctic Silver 5?

I've been told its the best you can get for CPU's and reasonably good for GPU's. Literally every other PC builder I've talked to has recommended it.

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I used to own over 160 graphics card, I've since recovered from graphics card addiction

Reply 14292 of 53040, by stamasd

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I'm still using arctic silver 5. Not my fault, you need so little that I'm still about half-way through the tube I bought 6 or 7 years ago. :p

Also, I haven't found a reason yet to not use it.

I/O, I/O,
It's off to disk I go,
With a bit and a byte
And a read and a write,
I/O, I/O

Reply 14293 of 53040, by rkrenicki

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I had an amazing score today in two different pickups. The first was an older gentleman in my state that had bought the contents of an old computer store a few years back. He let me pick through his stash and I walked away with these. The whole pickup only cost me $10.

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Second stop was at an old co-workers house who is cleaning out his attic. He told me he had a bunch of boxes for me for free.
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List from first stop:
2x 3.5" Floppy Drives
2x RIMMs of some sort
Microsoft Serial Compatible PS/2 Mouse
Sound Blaster Audigy SB0090
Diamond Monster Sound MX400
Generic Yamaha "4 channel" PCI Sound Card
Hercules 3D Prophet 4500 64MB
EVGA Geforce FX5200 64MB
ATI Radeon 9800Pro 128MB
ATI Radeon SDR 32MB
2x Generic ATX Towers w/Asus A7V400-MX Socket A Motherboards and AMD Semperon CPUs (one is 1.7ghz, the other is 1.83ghz.. Thoroughbred cores judging by the socket and clock rate)

List from second stop:
Nintendo NES
Nintendo SNES
Sega Game Gear
Sega Saturn
Sony Playstation 2 Fat
Apple Macintosh SE (dual 800kb drive version)
Zoom External 56k modem
3x Floppy Drives
1x Iomega ZIP drive (Apple branded, did not check capacity)
Plextor UltraPlex 40x CDROM
Panasonic 4x SCSI CD-R
Some generic 48x CDROM
EVGA GeForce 8600GT
Unknown brand AT 430VX chipset Motherboard w/IBM 6x86 PR166, cache module, and 4x4MB 72 pin SIMMs

The items from the first lot were tested before he put them in storage, so they should be all okay. The items in the second lot are all untested. The Mac worked before it went in the attic, but the rest he had no idea on. I only wish that I found some older stuff (ISA and VLB) today, but all of this is an absolute win in my book.

Reply 14294 of 53040, by FuzzyLogic

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stamasd wrote:
Not very retro (yet) […]
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Not very retro (yet)

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Nice! 256MB? I wish new video cards would have extenders like that so that they wouldn't sag and bend the PCI express connectors. But I guess most new ATX cases wouldn't accept full size cards.

Reply 14295 of 53040, by Brickpad

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rkrenicki wrote:
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Those are some nice looking cases.

Reply 14296 of 53040, by rkrenicki

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Yea, I like them quite a bit.. he had perhaps 10 of them, all in very good shape. Most of them were missing one or two of the drive bay covers, but I took the one that was complete and one that was mostly complete.

They have removable motherboard trays and vent stacks for the CPU fan. I did not check to see how many internal drive bays yet, but I will when I start testing things tomorrow.

Reply 14297 of 53040, by boxpressed

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Turtle Beach HOMAC wavetable daughterboard with Kurzweil synth. Came with the Pinnacle board. Sounds just like the onboard synth to me, but I may be missing something.

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Reply 14298 of 53040, by yawetaG

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yawetaG wrote:

Bought a cute little (working) Japanese PC system with a Pentium 200 MMX processor, all-in-one motherboard (VGA, sound, ethernet, serial & parallel ports, 2 USB ports, PS/2 mouse & keyboard, 2 PCI? slots on a riser board, 96 Mb of RAM), fax modem board, small form factor case, 3Gb HDD, FDD, and slimline CD-ROM drive (opens but does not read), running Japanese Windows 98. Looks like an early netclient. Interestingly, for a Japan-only system it seems to have a power supply that can be switched between 100V and 230V.

After finally figuring out how the manufaturer's machine numbering scheme works, it is very likely I struck gold with this one. SiS SuperTX socket 7 motherboard with up to 256 Mb RAM, 4Mb integrated graphics card, PCI/ISA bus, pre-AC'97 sound with a YAMAHA YMF-715 (OPL3), softsynth and game/MIDI port, 3-mode FDD that can write PC-98 1.25 Mb and regular 720Kb/1.44Mb floppies. 😲 Pretty good DOS/Windows gaming machine?

Edit: Power supply voltage switch is also explained: this same case was used for 486/Pentium (Pro) systems sold outside Japan...

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Reply 14299 of 53040, by PhilsComputerLab

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Carlos S. M. wrote:
Well. Also that AM2 main rivals were: Pentium D 900 series like 940, 950, 960.. Pentium Extreme Edition 955 and 965 Core 2 Duo E […]
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Well. Also that AM2 main rivals were:
Pentium D 900 series like 940, 950, 960..
Pentium Extreme Edition 955 and 965
Core 2 Duo E6xxx
Core 2 Duo E4xxx

I don't have any 2x 1 MB Athlon 64 X2, but i have an Opteron 1216 which is similar to the Athlon 64 x2 4600+ 90 nm

Yea, the Intel was easier as it went straight from AGP 478 to PCIe 775. Whereas with AMD there was AGP 754 and 939. Then PCIe 754 and 939, and then they went with AM2.

I think I will do videos on the 939 AGP stuff, single core, and then move straight to AM2 vs 775 with a faster PCIe graphics. But I digress.

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