Too many to list. Set your limits to before mainstream PCI audio (~97) and you should have pretty much all of them with maybe a handful of exceptions.

Multimedia support in Win3.1 was serious business

I would imagine pretty much any ISA soundcard will work in 3.1.
PCI cards are probably the ones you want to list.

sorry i mean professional AUDIO cards for recording multitrack digital audio
there are a few apps that support this in windows 3.11 like SAW STudio or Cubase Audio XT
or Logic

these cards are more audio related and are not "multimedia" dinky little cards with 3.5mm jacks but rather
full 1/4 inch pro audio plugs in most cases? (or RCA jacks)

whats the chance that a windows 95 driver will work in win3.11? do i remember correctly in that alot of undocumented drivers wil actually end up working?? even tho the documentation doesnt mention it? by using the win95 driver version to install in win3.11?

i was hoping to learn of another Echo Gina/Layla or MidiMan Delta type card that was supported in win3.11
only the Dman ISA version which is impossible to find seems to have a win3.11 driver written the other ones all start at win95 or higher

Instead of posting multiple times, may I suggest editing your previous post if someone hasn't replied already?

chrisNova777 wrote:

sorry i mean professional AUDIO cards for recording multitrack digital audio
there are a few apps that support this in windows 3.11 like SAW STudio or Cubase Audio XT
or Logic

Then why don't you look at the documentation and system requirements for those specific software programs?

chrisNova777 wrote:

whats the chance that a windows 95 driver will work in win3.11? do i remember correctly in that alot of undocumented drivers wil actually end up working?? even tho the documentation doesnt mention it? by using the win95 driver version to install in win3.11?

I wouldn't count on it. I might expect it to be feasible to get a Win3.11 driver to work in Windows 95, but not the other way around.

i guess i should just be satisfied with my Awe32 card (SB32) for windows3.1 | 486
as it seems i was mistaken nearly all cards with win3.1 compatbility are of the 3.5mm connections + db15 midi ports type variety
and instead focus on using more pro audio cards from 1998-2001 that are win95 compatible + capable cards in a win95 osr2.5 build on a PIII 440bx board w/ PCI 😊

better to keep my win3.1 + win95 builds MIDI only even.. and route audio back to a win98se box for pro audio recording !

I think it's easier to find professional video capture cards that work in Windows 3.11 than professional audio cards with dedicated MIDI ports (they likely do exist though, but the usual method was game/MIDI port + a break-out cable). Weren't Macs and Amigas more popular platforms for audio recording back in the day?

If you want A/D or D/A conversion there were specific separate but generic conversion cards available, but I guess you'd need (to create) compatible software.

While googling for "ISA cards with dedicated MIDI ports" I found this old FAQ which gives an insight on how things went back then: http://www.sionsoft.com/connect.html (and it also lists a MasterTrax MIDI interface card with 16 MIDI OUT jacks). Looks like searching for "ISA MIDI interface" does deliver more results of the kind you want. So perhaps trying Google first before asking is a better idea next time...

Two PCI sound cards for Windows 3.11:
Avance Logic ALS4000
Ensoniq AudioPCI (only the ES1370/CT5507?)

Generally Windows 3.1x wasn't used much for pro audio. The stability just wasn't there.

That said, I remember Turtle Beach cards being popular for SAW Studio, etc. They had a reputation in the early to mid nineties as THE brand for recording on Windows. Start here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_Beach_Co … oration#ISA_bus

yawetaG wrote:

Weren't Macs and Amigas more popular platforms for audio recording back in the day?

Amigas were heavily used by hobbyist musicians (trackers, etc.) but not so much in actual pro recording studios. Macs were used a bit but the absolutely dominant platform was the Atari ST, because it came with MIDI support out of the box. You would see an ST in pretty much every recording studio in the 90's -- even to this day some studios still have ST's hanging around! Logic Pro, Cakewalk Sonar and Cubase all started on the Atari ST. Digtal Performer and Pro Tools have Mac ancestry. SAW is the only DAW I know of that actually started as a Windows program, but it has always been a minor niche player.

There are quite a few audio production ISA sound cards out there. Look through audio and PC magazines from the era. They will be relatively hard to find (especially drivers).

To me is hard imagine the older platforms being used in studio more than just "drivers" for bigger MIDI based equipment, like Roland's or Akai's of the era.
There was not enough power/storage for serious pure multitrack digital recording and editing with the computer alone at time. And while there was a small group of Trackers doing pieces for the Demoscene and such, it was a not common practice in the Pro circles, without counting that tracker digital samples still had to be captured with bigger equipment.

Wasn't until Pentiums, K6s, and PowerPCs when audio digital capture and editing started being a thing, and only with Pentium3, G4/G5s and Athlons became enough serious to be in a Pro studio. Before was MIDI, and MIDI only.

ESS Solo-1 is also a PCI sound card that works in Windows 3.1.

einr wrote:

Generally Windows 3.1x wasn't used much for pro audio. The stability just wasn't there.

yep i think this statement explains it all really.. obviously theres exceptions to the rule but for the most part i think this may be correct.
and that pro audio really didnt become a reality on windows untill windows 95, Macintosh was it, during 1990-1995 early 1990s period
which is why ProTools/Performer was always Mac Only because of their origins + date/timing. Nubus systems of that time were more
up to the job with a faster possible throughput for digital audio over ISA 8bit + 16bit bus.

but there was a small window/period of time (1996-1997) that windows 3.11 was still supported with hardware/software options.
i think thats when/where the cards are from that sparked my Original Post idea when i was shocked to see Windows 3.11 driver support
on the midiman Dman ISA card. ( http://www.oldschooldaw.com/forums/index.php? … msg3428#msg3428 )

einr wrote:

Generally Windows 3.1x wasn't used much for pro audio. The stability just wasn't there..

Sure ? In my opinion, Win 3.1x had the most sophisticated MIDI mapper of all times..

Link: The gradual death of the Microsoft MIDI Mapper (translation)

Jo22 wrote:

einr wrote:

Generally Windows 3.1x wasn't used much for pro audio. The stability just wasn't there..

Sure ? In my opinion, Win 3.1x had the most sophisticated MIDI mapper of all times..

Link: The gradual death of the Microsoft MIDI Mapper (translation)

MIDI is a different thing than professional audio.. he meant for digital audio (ie: multitrack) recording + mixing
yes MIDI support in windows 3.11 was great! thats why im trying to talk about it 😉
thanks for the link to the article.. very relevant

Digigram made ISA cards (the early PCX series) with DOS drivers, along with audio editing software such as Xtrack:

Screenshots from http://www.uni.net/logicaltools/xtrack.htm

Jorpho wrote:

I wouldn't count on it. I might expect it to be feasible to get a Win3.11 driver to work in Windows 95, but not the other way around.

ah yes.. its windows 95 that can take any 16bit windows 3.x drivers....
i mixed it up and thought it was the other way around.. my mistake

just read the yamaha sound edge 20 SW-20 card has a windows 3.1 driver
http://www.oldschooldaw.com/forums/index.php? … 3.msg698#msg698