shiva2004 wrote:

My two latest purchases:

- An Asus 8600GT card, nothing special but it has a good looking cooler and it's a rare 256MB version, so it's going to be part of my experimental PCI express and 945 chipset W98 build (I bought it for that purpose, in fact)

Pretty sure 256MB on GDDR3 is a standard 8600 GT spec (since 8600 GT is an underclocked 8600 GTS).

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shiva2004 wrote:

My two latest purchases:

- An Asus 8600GT card, nothing special but it has a good looking cooler and it's a rare 256MB version, so it's going to be part of my experimental PCI express and 945 chipset W98 build (I bought it for that purpose, in fact)

Pretty sure 256MB on GDDR3 is a standard 8600 GT spec (since 8600 GT is an underclocked 8600 GTS).

According to wikipedia here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_ … 88xxx.29_series

There were 256MB, 512MB and 1GB 8600 GT's, and I'm not sure how it aligns but there were ddr2 and GDDR3 versions. The way wikipedia looks, is probably the 256 MB looks like it would of been ddr2, and the 512/1GB parts were GDDR3, so not sure really.

Also, shiva2004: I can save you some trouble. nvidia 8xxx cards will never work with windows 98. It's just not possible, even with modified inf files for drivers. It'll never work. Only nvidia 6xxx PCIE and 7xxx PCIE or their quadro versions.

melbar wrote:

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Have you seen my link which i've posted before.

There is this data written:
Leadtek WinFast A400 TDH
AGP x8/x4 interface, 128 MB DDR SDRAM, allocated in 8 chips on the front side of the PCB.
Hynix memory chips, 2.8ns access time which corresponds to 350 (700) MHz and which is the frequency the memory works at, 325MHz GPU frequency, 256-bit memory bus, 12 (3x4) pixel pipelines.

http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/gffx/nv40-3-p1.html

My bad, I thought you were discussing 6800 LE and GT, didn't realize you were talking about LE and Vanilla.
Both LE and Vanilla came with DDR instead of GDDR3 AFAIK. I think 6800 256MB was common, I have never seen a vanilla 6800 with 128MB, although they do exist as you've pointed out.

Either way, if you plan to unlock the card to 16 pipelines, it shouldn't really make a difference whether you got an LE or a vanilla, your chances of unlocking them to 16p should be the same either way. I loved my 6800LE, but man was it bandwidth starved!

kithylin wrote:

agent_x007 wrote:

Pretty sure 256MB on GDDR3 is a standard 8600 GT spec (since 8600 GT is an underclocked 8600 GTS).

According to wikipedia here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_ … 88xxx.29_series

There were 256MB, 512MB and 1GB 8600 GT's, and I'm not sure how it aligns but there were ddr2 and GDDR3 versions. The way wikipedia looks, is probably the 256 MB looks like it would of been ddr2, and the 512/1GB parts were GDDR3, so not sure really.

Anandtech to the rescue : LINK 😁

Got this little gem today

Jade Falcon wrote:

Got this little gem today

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Nice! AGP 1.0? What system are you going to use it in?

is a virge on agp faster than on pci?

mrau wrote:

is a virge on agp faster than on pci?

Can be. It has no agp capabilities, but the lack of other pci devices holding it back may give it a boost. Really the only thing that would help it is the more bandwidth the card will have if the system has a lot of pci cards or something.

I'll use it in a ssk7 setup. It even has 4mb of ram.

F2bnp wrote:

My bad, I thought you were discussing 6800 LE and GT, didn't realize you were talking about LE and Vanilla. Both LE and Vanilla […]
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melbar wrote:

Have you seen my link which i've posted before. […]
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Have you seen my link which i've posted before.

There is this data written:
Leadtek WinFast A400 TDH
AGP x8/x4 interface, 128 MB DDR SDRAM, allocated in 8 chips on the front side of the PCB.
Hynix memory chips, 2.8ns access time which corresponds to 350 (700) MHz and which is the frequency the memory works at, 325MHz GPU frequency, 256-bit memory bus, 12 (3x4) pixel pipelines.

http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/gffx/nv40-3-p1.html

My bad, I thought you were discussing 6800 LE and GT, didn't realize you were talking about LE and Vanilla.
Both LE and Vanilla came with DDR instead of GDDR3 AFAIK. I think 6800 256MB was common, I have never seen a vanilla 6800 with 128MB, although they do exist as you've pointed out.

Either way, if you plan to unlock the card to 16 pipelines, it shouldn't really make a difference whether you got an LE or a vanilla, your chances of unlocking them to 16p should be the same either way. I loved my 6800LE, but man was it bandwidth starved!

Iirc my 6800 was a vanilla with 128MB. Worked pretty well for games like BF2 including stuff like lots of planes in the air.

The odd thing is that I can't seem to actually figure out which model it is as it looked different from the ones using the same model number?
I'm probably missing some important detail I think 😵

It's this one:

mrau wrote:

is a virge on agp faster than on pci?

I don't think it matters much in case of a Virge. Mostly saves a PCI slot and might help a bit in case the PCI bus is overloaded by other PCI devices and such.

Bought a gtx560 ti for my second racing rig. Isn't exactly retro....

Found an ict recycling company in my own city, never knew it was there..... 😵 They were selling a xeon 3440 (s1156 and is the same as i7) for only 20 euro so i picked it up.
Boy.... was i in hardware heaven! It really is a shame to see THAT much hardware beeing destroyed but they get TONS every single day. Even i7 systems.....it is mind blowing what people and corperations throw away here.

Any way, i went trough big piles of stuff and most was completely destroyed or simply not interesting for me. I did buy 2 Asus P2B boards and an Asus p55t2p4 and also a 5x86-133 AMD cpu and a 100GP Cyrix. Paid 20 euro for these 5 items, and 20 euro for the xeon/i7.

Cyrix and AMD had a lot of bend pins but i straightened them and they both work (victory!)

I forgot that they take out every single loose chip so my boards came without a bios..... Took 2 bios chips from boards i don't care about and hotflashed them by using a bios from my own P2B board and they work flawlessly! (victory again!). One has some light damaged battery holder that i will replace.

P55T2P4 did not work. I thought it looked still ok but when i got home it wasn't only missing the bios chip but also some transistors/regulators? They removed them with pliers for the aluminium and damaged some tiny smd stuff as well. So that one will go back the next time i'm there.

Xeon was bought as working and works also fine.

Still a very good score i think and it is nice that i found them.

Now i will study my 3dfx cards so i can identify them without coolers 😎 (they remove all coolers, heatsinks and backplates so it is HARD to recognise graphics cards)

Tetrium wrote:

mrau wrote:

is a virge on agp faster than on pci?

I don't think it matters much in case of a Virge. Mostly saves a PCI slot and might help a bit in case the PCI bus is overloaded by other PCI devices and such.

Exactly my thoughts.

I'm finding it's increasingly difficult to find late '80s and early '90s hardware but I got lucky recently. Found a guy who wanted to get load of a bunch of stuff but he had no idea if it worked or not, so I only paid shipping. I saw a photo before he sent the items (I have never seen items packaged so carefully!) and had a vague idea of what was included, and there was one particular item I was particularly excited about:

So, other than the caching controller, we have a bunch of Trident VGA cards, an Octek EGA card, another one with composite out (the 8-bit one - is this CGA?), an MFM controller, a bunch of NICs (with cables) and some other niceties.

brassisGamer:
Nice haul. It is indeed difficult to get old hardware like that. Nicely done. 😀

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kithylin wrote:

agent_x007 wrote:

Pretty sure 256MB on GDDR3 is a standard 8600 GT spec (since 8600 GT is an underclocked 8600 GTS).

According to wikipedia here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_ … 88xxx.29_series

There were 256MB, 512MB and 1GB 8600 GT's, and I'm not sure how it aligns but there were ddr2 and GDDR3 versions. The way wikipedia looks, is probably the 256 MB looks like it would of been ddr2, and the 512/1GB parts were GDDR3, so not sure really.

Anandtech to the rescue : LINK 😁

I'm not saying that it's a strange card designed by Asus, but most 8600 cards are 512MB, 256MB ones are much less common.

brassicGamer wrote:

... and there was one particular item I was particularly excited about:

That sick LEGO keychain, am I right? 🤣

stoof wrote:

brassicGamer wrote:

... and there was one particular item I was particularly excited about:

That sick LEGO keychain, am I right? 🤣

🤣

Got a P3 Coppermine 1GHz and stock HSF, mATX Acer OEM i815 mobo, 2x256MB PC133 SDRAM. All for $27!

I'm looking at Tualatin 1400-S with S370 to S370 adapter from Ebay for $50 but I have no idea whether the stock HSF even fits.

Sealed Gainbery MAXimizer GB586-133

Boxed Synergy ViperMAX (GUS Extreme) Big thanks to a VOGONS member! 😎

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kanecvr wrote:

6800LE AGP. The fan' guard / dust filter thing is missing...

Oh yeah. The card runs at 350 / 700 - them' is GT clocks - except for the memory of course, witch I believe is GDDR1 and not GDDR3 like it would be on the GT / Ultra. The LE has 8 out of 16 pp's enabled, and the other 8 can be enabled with rivatuner.

Where you can see that it's a LE version? Looking at these pictures / unboxing video, i can't see any difference from optical point of view...
I think, i have to test it whether it's a LE or a normal 6800...

WinFast A400 TDH:
http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/gffx/nv40-3-p1.html
http://www.ixbt.com/video2/images/nv40-3/lead … with-cooler.jpg

unboxing WinFast A400 LE TDH:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x5VCglt27o
(picture from card @ 5.50)

The cooler on the full fledged 16p Leadtek 6800 AGP (GT / Ultra models) is dual slot. The one on your card looks like it's single slot. That, coupled with the PCB revision and the fact that it's a 128MB version tells me it's either a 6800LE or a plain 6800. One has 8 out of 16 pipelines enabled (the LE) while the other has 12. They can both be unlocked with rivatuner.