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First post, by daliik

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Hi guys,
i recently bought 486 board for retro gaming. It's an Asus PVI-486SP3, intel DX4 100Mhz, 16MB RAM. I flashed bios to version 0306 so now it detects seagate 4,3 GB drive. However after i installed dos 6.22 and win95 osr2 and all drivers i am dealing with sound problems in DOS and in windows as well. I tried 2 soundcards SB16 nonPNP and then AWE64 PNP but result is the same for both. When i boot into DOS, sound card drivers are loaded as usual. Once i start quake it hangs for while during sound initialization, then it will actually load demo and continue. But, after 3-5 seconds whole demo freeze, hangs there for another 3-5 seconds, then play normally and then again freeze, etc ... after several freezes demo is stopped with some error.

In windows situation is even worse, when i run glquake via voodoo1, it hangs while sound initialization. In control panel, everything is ok, i can even hear windows welcome sound.

When i do all this with "-nosound" everything is 100% stable without freezes. glquake timedemo is 13fps so no performance issues i think as this is normal value for 486 CPU 😀

What i tried is to change bios settings, swaped soundcards, swaped matrox millenium for S3, removed network card, nothing helped. I am starting to be hopeless, don't want to play games without sound especially when i have dreamblaster X2 in my SB16 nonPNP installed.

Any ideas what can i try next?

Reply 2 of 6, by Radical Vision

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As far as i know, old Creative cards specially the ISA ones can be very nasty with problems, buzzing and other bulls***. You can easy fix this with one ESS Audio Drive ISA card, is nothing interesting, and is even some cheap junk brand nothing special, but the deal with that type of brand is it just works fine with DOS games, so do yourself a favor and buy/find one ESS Audio drive, you will see it is great.

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Reply 3 of 6, by bregolin

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Hardware conflicts on resources maybe? Also, if you are sharing an IRQ with the sound cards, I'd recommend you change the IRQ for either sound card or conflicting resource, whatever is easier/possible.

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Reply 4 of 6, by daliik

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Hi again, problem solved. I tried also ESS 1869 ISA PNP but it got frozen during PNP initialization before booting. Totally desperate i tried ISA VGA trident, no luck. Then frustrated even more i tried to switch pio mode of HDD from auto (value 4) to pio mode 3. And? Problem solved! Now everything is working 100% stable! How is it possible that pio mode has impact on sound, i have no clue! But now i am desperate of getting blood and shadow warriror working via voodoo1, anyone can tell what can i do? i tried several glide drivers, no luck so far...

Anyway, glquake, mdk, descent, dark forces II, forsaken is working under voodoo1 with no problem except low framerates, but looking for am5x86-p75 133 to overclock it to 160Mhz 😀

Reply 5 of 6, by Radical Vision

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Good at least the problem is gone, as every single old PC hardware enthusiasts knows how some problem can drive a person mad, till fix the damn problem..
And is strange to see ESS Audio drive not fixing the things, but seems some times nothing can help if something f***s with you..

Mah systems retro, old, newer (Radical stuff)
W3680 4.5/ GA-x58 UD7/ R9 280x
K7 2.6/ NF7-S/ HD3850
IBM x2 P3 933/ GA-6VXD7/ Voodoo V 5.5K
Cmq P2 450/ GA-BX2000/ V2 SLI
IBM PC365
Cmq DeskPRO 486/33
IBM PS/2 Model 56
SPS IntelleXT 8088

Reply 6 of 6, by iFXBR

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Not sure if you really solved the problem, but it might be a good idea to check -5V on your PSU (Yes, MINUS voltage). Also, check if -5V is OK on ISA slot that you've plugged the sound card.

iFXBR - Vintage Computer Lover