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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Intel486dx33 » 2018-7-11 @ 18:23

God Of Gaming wrote:Image

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Scored a Hercules Game Theater XP, should support Sensaura sound stuff, Im having a bit of trouble finding win98 vxd drivers for it though, looks like download links are dead?


What type of cable is required between sound card and head unit ?
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Eleanor1967 » 2018-7-11 @ 18:33

twilliamc wrote:PCChips M919 v3.4: included 64MB of RAM, 166MHz processor (not sure which model yet), and 256KB of cache on a stick. Work status, POSTs with my Realtek VGA test card. I am super excited about the manual. All online scans are a terrible gif that is hard to read. Any idea on where I could post this guy to get it archived. Looks like the pin layout was the same for all/most m919s.


The only 486 CPU which can reach 160 is the AMD 5x86 so this should be it. 166MHz isn't possible though. For archiving I would suggest archive.org although there is also a section for that on vogonsdrivers (in doubt archive.org will probably last longer than this site).
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby appiah4 » 2018-7-11 @ 21:06

Found 2 8-bit Hercules MDA cards for 10 bucks. I know it's a steal but I have no PCs to stick them in nor do I plan to build anything slower than a 486. The temptation to heard them is strong though..

I am bidding on this card for the simple fact that it's ATI, PCI and I can't for the life of me figure out what it is so I want to have it and find out..

Unknown ATI.jpg
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby blurks » 2018-7-11 @ 21:42

This is a Radeon 7500 PCI (64 MB) for Alpha workstations. So pretty much useless unless there is one in your possession.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby appiah4 » 2018-7-11 @ 21:43

blurks wrote:This is a Radeon 7500 PCI (64 MB) for Alpha workstations. So pretty much useless unless there is one in your possession.


Any reason why it wouldn't work in any other PCI slot? A Radeon 7500 PCI would be a very welcome card for me, I could use it in my Socket 7 and i810 PCs.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby debs3759 » 2018-7-11 @ 22:48

twilliamc wrote:PCChips M919 v3.4: included 64MB of RAM, 166MHz processor (not sure which model yet), and 256KB of cache on a stick.


Whatever CPU it has, it is overclocked if running at 166 MHz on a 486 board :)
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Matth79 » 2018-7-11 @ 22:56

appiah4 wrote:
blurks wrote:This is a Radeon 7500 PCI (64 MB) for Alpha workstations. So pretty much useless unless there is one in your possession.


Any reason why it wouldn't work in any other PCI slot? A Radeon 7500 PCI would be a very welcome card for me, I could use it in my Socket 7 and i810 PCs.


The BIOS for it will be in Alpha code - maybe it might be possible to flash an X86 BIOS to it if you could find a compatible one
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby luckybob » 2018-7-12 @ 00:53

Warning! NOT retro computers, but VERY retro still:

https://imgur.com/a/pj3FdfM

This is #3 for me, I'm really starting to go down the rabbit hole with these things.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby dirkmirk » 2018-7-12 @ 00:57

debs3759 wrote:
twilliamc wrote:PCChips M919 v3.4: included 64MB of RAM, 166MHz processor (not sure which model yet), and 256KB of cache on a stick.


Whatever CPU it has, it is overclocked if running at 166 MHz on a 486 board :)


Got some screen shots? I know its PC CHips buts that an interesting board having the cache stick.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby KingPing » 2018-7-12 @ 02:21

Matth79 wrote:
appiah4 wrote:
blurks wrote:This is a Radeon 7500 PCI (64 MB) for Alpha workstations. So pretty much useless unless there is one in your possession.


Any reason why it wouldn't work in any other PCI slot? A Radeon 7500 PCI would be a very welcome card for me, I could use it in my Socket 7 and i810 PCs.


The BIOS for it will be in Alpha code - maybe it might be possible to flash an X86 BIOS to it if you could find a compatible one


I own that card, it works fine in any standard PC with a PCI or PCI-X slot.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Pabloz » 2018-7-12 @ 02:40

JidaiGeki wrote:It seems that a number of sellers I've bought from recently are relying on paper as suitable packaging for electronic goods, or basically stuffing up somehow :depressed: Latest purchase - an AT case, with this classic fascia:

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The case was wrapped in brown butcher's paper, padded with newspaper, and placed in a box. Admittedly it was a long journey from Russia to Australia, and the paper/newspaper must have kept a reasonable amount of impact damage at bay. The only problem was that the seller only secured the cover with one screw ... which meant that a bump somewhere along the way twisted the cover off enough to slam forward into the top of the bezel, bending the chassis slightly and knocking off pieces of the bezel corners and cracking the plastic. The reset button also fell off and won't stay in properly any longer.

I don't feel angry, just a bit sad that the seller didn't have any foresight to secure the item properly for shipping. Won't be leaving feedback for this one, and deliberating on whether to lodge a dispute for a partial refund - but the damage is probably just a bit on the small side to warrant this. Will have to get cracking on some plastic repair.

On the upside, a Mac Performa 476 shipped over from the US in perfect condition, with decent packaging. Also managed to salvage some great parts from this smashed up laptop (viewtopic.php?f=46&t=17341&p=678956#p678956) - 486DX4/75 motherboard and other parts (including the hard disk!) all still work, transplanted them into another Acernote laptop which arrived intact by some miracle as it was also very very badly packed - it was sent to me in a thin bubble-lined envelope!



oh that yellow
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and retrobright is temporary. i wish they did the front plastic again at least with proper plastic. I mean how dificult could it be to do the front plastic again.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Pabloz » 2018-7-12 @ 02:43

twilliamc wrote:This hobby is very fun, but getting costly. I think I paid way too much, but I will let you be the judge. These items for $100.

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Focus FK-2001 keyboard, work status: Unknown.

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IBM Model M keyboard, work status: Unknown.

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PCChips M919 v3.4: included 64MB of RAM, 166MHz processor (not sure which model yet), and 256KB of cache on a stick. Work status, POSTs with my Realtek VGA test card. I am super excited about the manual. All online scans are a terrible gif that is hard to read. Any idea on where I could post this guy to get it archived. Looks like the pin layout was the same for all/most m919s.

The seller has 3 more Model M's (none with the metal badge) and another 2001 as well as several other clicky keyboards. My visit lasted longer than intended where I discovered I may be dealing with a hoarder. House smelled clean, and was recently vacuumed... just had a ton of tech everywhere. Nothing stacked though. Mostly organized. He has tons of XP era systems with older stuff buried in a storage unit. A few things I had to tell him would be better off recycling (rack mounted SCSI raid, battery backup, and server2003 units) than selling on eBay. Shipping would be insane. I did help him get a couple 7 systems running though. Hopefully I scored some points to cut a price to sell deal with him.


hey can you scan that manual into a good PDF file? online scans are a piece of shit
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby twilliamc » 2018-7-12 @ 03:05

luckybob wrote:Warning! NOT retro computers, but VERY retro still:
https://imgur.com/a/pj3FdfM
This is #3 for me, I'm really starting to go down the rabbit hole with these things.


Good Work keeping the old stuff going. I have console stereo from Telefunken that is my baby. Check 12voltvids on YouTube. He repairs A/V devices with a good portion of it being tube. He inspired me to fix stuff and care for the old equipment.

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debs3759 wrote:
twilliamc wrote:PCChips M919 v3.4: included 64MB of RAM, 166MHz processor (not sure which model yet), and 256KB of cache on a stick.

Whatever CPU it has, it is overclocked if running at 166 MHz on a 486 board :)

Got some screen shots? I know its PC CHips buts that an interesting board having the cache stick.


No screenshots, but I just booted it up next to me. It is 160MHz. I am impressed with its condition. Even the cpu can is quiet. BIOS settings were wiped due to an old battery. I have work to do on it. It will be mounted in its case tomorrow where I will try to get DOS working.

Pabloz wrote:hey can you scan that manual into a good PDF file? online scans are a piece of shit


Working on that. I might take it to work and try to scan it on a lunch break.

Turns out my other board is a PC Chips too, but v1.4 with the smaller cache chips. They actually go somewhere too. It does not POST though. Still working to diagnose. Going to start with a full cap replacement.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby TheAbandonwareGuy » 2018-7-12 @ 04:43

appiah4 wrote:Found 2 8-bit Hercules MDA cards for 10 bucks. I know it's a steal but I have no PCs to stick them in nor do I plan to build anything slower than a 486. The temptation to heard them is strong though..

I am bidding on this card for the simple fact that it's ATI, PCI and I can't for the life of me figure out what it is so I want to have it and find out..

Unknown ATI.jpg


IIRC those Alphaserver radeons are worth several thousand.

Edit: Did some searching. Seems to be worth around $300-400
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby God Of Gaming » 2018-7-12 @ 06:43

Intel486dx33 wrote:
What type of cable is required between sound card and head unit ?


It's a pretty thick, and probably proprietary 44-pin DIN cable, also has USB on the PC's side, probably passtrogh for the USB ports on the rack. Did you not receive one with yours?

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I see you received CDs with yours, I didn't, would you be so kind as to upload the contents somewhere? I'm having trouble finding old win98 driver for mine, only found a driver from 2007 that is too new
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby appiah4 » 2018-7-12 @ 06:57

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:IIRC those Alphaserver radeons are worth several thousand.

Edit: Did some searching. Seems to be worth around $300-400


Wow.. I got it for less than 10 bucks shipped. Maybe I shouldn't keep and use it, just flip it after all..
1989:A500R6|+512K/RTC|ACA500+|HxC|C1084S
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1998:S1573S|K6-2/400|64M|MGA-2064W|Voodoo2/SLI|CT4500/32M
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Intel486dx33 » 2018-7-12 @ 08:28

God Of Gaming wrote:
Intel486dx33 wrote:
What type of cable is required between sound card and head unit ?


It's a pretty thick, and probably proprietary 44-pin DIN cable, also has USB on the PC's side, probably passtrogh for the USB ports on the rack. Did you not receive one with yours?

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I see you received CDs with yours, I didn't, would you be so kind as to upload the contents somewhere? I'm having trouble finding old win98 driver for mine, only found a driver from 2007 that is too new


Okay, I will upload ISO images of CD's when the items arrive.
in about a week.
Thanks for the info.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Turbo -> » 2018-7-12 @ 09:32

Got this nice ZX Spectrum yesterday. It does not work as the previos owner told me, so I will have to look into it in the near future.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby amadeus777999 » 2018-7-12 @ 15:15

I dig the M919 and the ZX Spectrum.
Regarding later, there is an awesome repair channel on youtube run by "JoulesperCoulomb" https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4H3oOJzIQMkKiG94z2x0laC7gqqmwBE8


Got another CRT, this time a Pilips 109S and it's got a pretty good picture.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby keropi » 2018-7-12 @ 16:33

^ oh really nice picture quality!
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