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Reply 25540 of 53026, by keropi

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This particular network is labeled as 0 ohm though so it's fine. They just used it instead of jumpers.

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Reply 25541 of 53026, by appiah4

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Yes, a piece of wire that connects all 8 holes. If I were to make it, I'd get some standard pin contacts like these: https://cdn […]
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Yes I also believe the resistor network is just a shunt, just a fancier jumper

Does it connect all eight holes in parallel? Where can I get this part, aliexpress returned nothing. Is it juryriggable?

Yes, a piece of wire that connects all 8 holes. If I were to make it, I'd get some standard pin contacts like these:
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..and solder a wire across 8 of them, then plug the other end in.

I have a million of these; I will solder a piece of paper clip across them, clip the tips off, then cover the top with black electric tape, and plug it in..

I'll let you know if it works. Eventually 😀 I need to get the northbridge chip's separated leg soldered down first.
EDIT: NOPE! It won’t work, the socket holes are round and the jumper pins are square.. Square peg round hole issue 🙁

The way I see it I have two options. Order one of these, and do the trick with them:

I'm considering doing this.. I will remove the current female headers on RN6-7-8 and replace them with regular male headers. I will then solder a wire to connect pins 2-8 for all three of them under the motherboard. I will then use a shunt to close pins 1-2 for whichever RN I want closed. Does this sound like it would work?

I'm apparently on a (budget unfriendly) roll lately but I found 2 damaged Voodoo cards for about $5 each shipped, so I grabbed them. Maybe Vogons can help me fix these?

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A Diamond Monster 3D Voodoo 1. I have a working copy of this board, so I know what the missing components are: 10uF 16V 4x5 Electrolytic SMDs. I have a lot of these at hand, for recapping my own Voodoo 1/2/3s.

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But this is.. odd. It's apparently a Gainward Dragon 3000 PCI 12MB, and has a non-standard PCB.

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The missing electrolytic is a 22uF 16V, atypical for Voodoo cards in my experience but not hard to obtain. The real issue here will be identifying a suitable replacement for C21. Any ideas? Seems to be the same part as C17, an 0603 SMD capacitor. What rating though? The GENDAC datasheet says Pin 61 is "CVDD 61 - CLK power supply – connect to DVDD". Then there is this schematic..

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So Pin 61 connects to C2, which is 0.1uF. What voltage though? 50V should be safe enough? Datasheet states 7V as the Power Supply Voltage and Positive supply voltage is 4.75-5.25.

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This should be an easy fix with a razor, I've fixed countless cards with bent legs before.

Hopefully I will get both to working order and my 3dfx card collection will grow to 13 😀

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Reply 25542 of 53026, by Batyra

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OK, the last part of my haul…

- Original Yamaha DB60 XG (on photo paired with it's NEC clone)

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- AWE64 PCI CT4650 (on photo with the second PCI version CT4600)

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- Boxed Roland MT-32

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- Media Vision Pro 3-D with Korg daughterboard (boxed and sealed)

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- Creative Wave Blaster II (on photo with WaveBlaster I) Japan version,boxed

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In package there also was Boxed GUS MAX 2.1 and AOpen AX6BC Pro II Millenium Edition Motherboard

Only one more thing will be posted today (I have to pick it up) and I promiss I won't post anything for a while 😀

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Reply 25543 of 53026, by Batyra

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OK, picked up. Small box but huge treasure.

Game Blaster CT1300 - card, box and all inside in pristine condition

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Reply 25545 of 53026, by peido

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Three new laptops arrived:

Toshiba 440CDT (Pentium 133 MMX)
Compaq Armada V300 (Celeron 466)
IBM Thinkpad 365XD (Pentium 133)

Very nice lot. Don't forget to check the bios batteries for leaking stuff.

Reply 25546 of 53026, by Predator99

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Thanks for "disassembling" before shipment! 😵

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Mainly bought because of the Suntac boards:

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Corrosion is OK, missing ICs are OK, but this...

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is not OK!

What are people doing here??? Was unfortunately not clearly visible on sellers photos 😵 😵 😵

Reply 25547 of 53026, by bjwil1991

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My guesses are as follows:

1) they got mad that the system wasn't going fast enough
2) they wanted money
3) they didn't take care of those motherboards (neglected or their kids destroyed them)

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Reply 25549 of 53026, by bjwil1991

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Ouch. There might be chips being sold online somewhere.

I read the chips in the picture and they need the following:

Suntac ST62C006 8832EBI

Suntac ST62C005-B B1 947100

Suntac ST62C241-A 9046EK702

Suntac ST62C203-A 9050EAI

Capital i, not l

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Reply 25550 of 53026, by Predator99

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I am not going to try to fix that. Payd too much money for this junk. Complained at Ebay and requested refund. Item description was totally misleading. Some cards are still OK (SB, CGA, VGA only if missing ICs are included) but not worth the money....

Reply 25551 of 53026, by bjwil1991

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It's hard to find those chips being sold anyway. Sorry about the boards, man. That's the one thing that kills me everytime when I look at an eBay listing: pictures and description are unclear, especially they don't put anything electronic-wise, including PCBs into ESD Anti-Static bags, or adding bubble wrap to items that are fragile, such as the Commodore 1541 diskette drive, or 1530 Datasette C2N drive. I even wrapped a VIA C3 700A processor with divided foam pads, tape to keep the pads in place, wrapped an ESD Anti-Static bag around with tape, and a piece of paper with the info about the processor.

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Reply 25552 of 53026, by keropi

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Batyra wrote:

OK, picked up. Small box but huge treasure.

Game Blaster CT1300 - card, box and all inside in pristine condition

That's it. I'm getting my ski mask.

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Reply 25553 of 53026, by Batyra

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keropi wrote:
Batyra wrote:

OK, picked up. Small box but huge treasure.

Game Blaster CT1300 - card, box and all inside in pristine condition

That's it. I'm getting my ski mask.

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You're always welcome 😎

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Reply 25554 of 53026, by blurks

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What are people doing here??? Was unfortunately not clearly visible on sellers photos 😵 😵 😵

Show us the eBay listing please. I'm interested in making up my own mind.

Reply 25555 of 53026, by Skyscraper

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I bought another one of these!

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The adapter turned out to have a totally abused and now next to useless LIF socket and also more or less dead capacitors. Not what you really want or expect to get when you had to sell a kidney to get enough money to afford the damn contraption but I guess beggars can't be choosers. Who knows when the next one of these will turn up, no chanse I will return it and I wouldn't get the customs fees back anyhow. I actually think the seller tested the adapter at some point (like 10 years ago) and that the LIF socket already was all too lose but that the Mendocino Celeron that used to be in the adapter was pushed into the socket with enough force so that all the pin solder joints made contact with the socket.

When I tried the adapter I couldn't get it to work even when I shoved a Mendocino Celeron 533 in there good enough for the solder joints to touch the socket. After many attempts testing all of my 533 MHz ones I switched to a Celeron 333 and that one actaully posted after a few resets, it turned out the caps are not in great shape on this adapter. I still had to jam the 333 into the socket with loads of force before it posted so the loose socket is also a factor. After running the 333 for a while I switched to a 533 again and now after like 10 resets it finally posted.

My other identical adapter has absolutly zero issues and works like a charm, it has a tight LIF socket and new caps... I guess the new adapter will have to be recapped aswell, I have no idea what I can do to fix the socket. I have already tried to jam a Lin Lin (jumpered for PGA ---> FC-PGA) into the socket to use as a ZIF socket but that was a no go as the LIN LIN dosn't have any solder joints at the base of the pins.

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A suprising thing! The old BIOS from late 1996 on this Gateway (Intel) VS440FX motherboard can activate the 256KB cache on the FC-PGA Coppermine and the 256KB cache on the Tualatin Celeron and even the 512KB cache on the Tualatin P3-S but it fails to activate the 128KB cache on the Mendocino Celeron because it (wrongly) thinks its 256KB. Well there weren't any Pentium Pro CPUs with less than 256kb cache so I guess it isn't that strange after all. I need to find the L2 cache activating utility if I'm going to mess with the Mendocino on this board.

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Last edited by Skyscraper on 2018-10-09, 20:11. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 25556 of 53026, by bjwil1991

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Wait... What adapter is that? Never seen one before, and is that for a Socket 8 motherboard that converts it to Socket 370 with the voltage regulation for the processors? That is really weird to see that.

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Reply 25557 of 53026, by Skyscraper

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bjwil1991 wrote:

Wait... What adapter is that? Never seen one before, and is that for a Socket 8 motherboard that converts it to Socket 370 with the voltage regulation for the processors? That is really weird to see that.

That is exactly what it is,

Out of the box it only takes Mendocino Celerons but with the use of a PPGA to FCPGA adapter it will take Coppermines and if you also stack a FCPGA to FCPGA2 adapter on the top of the other two adapters if will take Tualatins.

I guess you can double stack two LIN LINs as it can be configured both as PPGA ---> FCPGA and FCPGA ---> FCPGA2 depending on how you jumper it. I use a NEO s370 + a LIN LIN in my other Socket 8 to PPGA (S370) adapter and that combination works fine.

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Reply 25558 of 53026, by Predator99

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blurks wrote:
Predator99 wrote:

What are people doing here??? Was unfortunately not clearly visible on sellers photos 😵 😵 😵

Show us the eBay listing please. I'm interested in making up my own mind.

OK...take a look. When you ask me he placed the parts that were OK on the top and hided the "screwdriven" ICs below. When you know the kind of damages you will see it, however.
I assigned the looking of the pins on the 1st pictures to artifacts from the jpg.

Take also a look on the detailed description...dont think I have to translate.

And: I asked him before if the boards are OK beside the missing ICs and corrosion. He replied: "ICs are missing as shown on the photo". Nothing else.

He accepted the refund in the mean time.

Waste of time.

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Reply 25559 of 53026, by bjwil1991

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I wonder if they made a Socket 7 variant (Socket 7 to Socket 370)? That'll be weird, yet impossible for a non-AGP or 100MHz FSB motherboard to support it, unless a downclock is necessary.

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