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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby TheAbandonwareGuy » 2019-6-12 @ 06:30

Bige4u wrote:Diablotek ATI Rage 128Pro 32mb Pci video card.

Its for an old Dell Dimension L700cx skt370 win98 system from 2000 that has only PCI slots.

I replaced the original Celeron 700/128/66 cpu with a Pentium3 500/256/100 cpu, upgraded the original 64mb pc100 mem to 256mb pc133 mem, kept the original creative ct5807 pci card for basic sound, added a 2port ALI chipset usb2.0 pci card, also keeping the 48x dcrom, 3.5'' floppy and original 145w power supply.

This is going to be used for the most basic of win98 gaming, currently running with the integrated intel 810e onboard video for now just to get it up and running, a few DOS games installed thats working great, doom/doom2/duke nukem 3d/wolfenstein 3d/quake/needforspeed R&T and descent(minor graphical glitches), i also have heretic/hexen and blood, not installed yet, but im sure they will work just fine.



Fun fact. DiabloTek made a 128MB DDR Radeon 7500 PCI.

Ridiculous. More RAM than a 7500 of any type had any business having.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby krivulak » 2019-6-12 @ 07:09

also moving it around the room I've heard something is loose inside... so I removed the cover and... wow, tell me it's not original HDD and they didn't mounted it with just one screw... because if they did then I'm glad Commodore is no longer around... I was lucky it didn't happened in shipping...

CMOS battery seems fine - I didn't noticed any leaks (yet).


That's exactly the difference. Between revision 5 and 6 they significantly redesigned the board. Instead of using 16× 41256 and 4× 4464 they used 8× 4464, which is way more compact and logical. And quite less power hungry. Also they shuffled some chips around (like coprocessor - has been shifted down), motherboard got chip names written on it (Frank'n'mouse is the most obvious) and mainly they used WAY more stable batteries (never seen one leaked on the revision 6 while I have never seen revision 5 not being eaten by electrolyte). Instead of using those super unreliable WD93028 they started installing Seagate ST325A/X which I have never seen go bad. Basically - you got the top notch machine :D

Edit: Just noticed - some work has been done on your computer. Those upper memory register chips has been changed in the past, Commodore never used CMOS chips in their computers. Interesting...
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby appiah4 » 2019-6-12 @ 07:39

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:Fun fact. DiabloTek made a 128MB DDR Radeon 7500 PCI.

Ridiculous. More RAM than a 7500 of any type had any business having.


I think.. I have one of those cards, they are not DiabloTek, they are BBA AFAIK; This one is for Alpha workstations in fact:

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby HanJammer » 2019-6-12 @ 11:41

This 5150 clone arrived today.
Siemens 8088-1 CPU, interesting Unitron motherboard with SIPP module socket and Acer chipset, CGA video and two 360kB floppies. Case has some shipping dammage (one corner is dented - fixable though) and HDD bay fillers are missing but other than that pretty nice conditions.

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby blurks » 2019-6-12 @ 13:55

ATI Graphics Ultra (0,5 MByte DRAM VGA, 1 MByte VRAM coprocessor)
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Deksor » 2019-6-12 @ 14:18

Very nice ! Will you image these floppy disks ?
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby blurks » 2019-6-12 @ 14:22

Nope, don't have a 5,25" floppy drive.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Intel486dx33 » 2019-6-12 @ 17:58

I bought one of these inexpensive de-soldering guns from china.
It does not work. It does not heat up enough. Has anyone else had any luck with these inexpensive guns?
I just have a few motherboards to fix so I did not want to buy an expensive gun, but it looks like I might have to now.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby retropol » 2019-6-12 @ 18:26

5,25 diskettes? wow, how old these gfx cards are?
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby beastlike » 2019-6-12 @ 19:36

Intel486dx33 wrote:I bought one of these inexpensive de-soldering guns from china.
It does not work. It does not heat up enough. Has anyone else had any luck with these inexpensive guns?
I just have a few motherboards to fix so I did not want to buy an expensive gun, but it looks like I might have to now.


Sorry to hear that! I just use a cheap pen-style soldering iron, doesn't have heat settings or anything. I have a gun that gets a little hotter but don't usually bother with it. By experimenting with the angle of the tip, coming in at like a 30° angle, getting more of the side of the tip into the solder joint, I've had better luck with my desoldering, and with a solder sucker, I'm able to "get in and get out" a lot faster
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby cyclone3d » 2019-6-12 @ 19:47

Intel486dx33 wrote:I bought one of these inexpensive de-soldering guns from china.
It does not work. It does not heat up enough. Has anyone else had any luck with these inexpensive guns?
I just have a few motherboards to fix so I did not want to buy an expensive gun, but it looks like I might have to now.


I looked at those before I bought my soldering station. Pretty sure there is even a teardown video of it on youtube. Decided it was a piece of trash and didn't buy it.

The desoldering gun I did end up buying is an antique and works very well.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Tiido » 2019-6-12 @ 20:12

That soldering gun is for 230V, China uses USA plug for ungrounded things but it won't be 120V but 230V instead hence not heating up enough.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby luckybob » 2019-6-12 @ 20:48

i got one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0754 ... UTF8&psc=1

works perfectly, if you go slow and take your time. I recently desoldered 2x 387-pin cpu sockets and had zero issues.
It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby x0zm_ » 2019-6-12 @ 23:11

Along with a host of water cooling stuff, my two little retro-related pieces from China that I posted about earlier arrived today.

The third party charger but looks like a real IBM charger for the Thinkpad 600E I found:
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The PS/2 Header for my P55T2P4
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Anonymous Coward » 2019-6-13 @ 00:29

retropol wrote:5,25 diskettes? wow, how old these gfx cards are?


These would have sold new in 1991-1992, when most PCs still had 1.2mb drives. I got my 486 PC in late 1992, and it did not have a 5.25" drive, but strangely the OEM shipped the PC with the same Graphics Ultra and 5.25" driver disks, so I was unable to install the 256 colour windows driver until I was able to convince neighbour to help convert the disks to 3.5" format. Pretty annoying.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Thermalwrong » 2019-6-13 @ 00:39

Intel486dx33 wrote:I bought one of these inexpensive de-soldering guns from china.
It does not work. It does not heat up enough. Has anyone else had any luck with these inexpensive guns?
I just have a few motherboards to fix so I did not want to buy an expensive gun, but it looks like I might have to now.


That looks familiar :D

I bought the same one, except for use in the UK. It's pretty useless even at 230 volts, the electromagnetic plunger makes the tool jerk so much that it's very difficult to keep it on the part you're trying to desolder. The soldering power of it is also quite weak. I get on a lot better with a high temperature soldering iron and a manual desoldering pump
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby wirerogue » 2019-6-13 @ 02:25

5 lbs of copper.
2 socket 604 coolers.

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby arncht » 2019-6-13 @ 06:04

retropol wrote:5,25 diskettes? wow, how old these gfx cards are?


Until the cdrom (93-94), they put big fdd to the machines.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby HanJammer » 2019-6-13 @ 13:02

Intel486dx33 wrote:I bought one of these inexpensive de-soldering guns from china.
It does not work. It does not heat up enough. Has anyone else had any luck with these inexpensive guns?
I just have a few motherboards to fix so I did not want to buy an expensive gun, but it looks like I might have to now.


I don't have this exact model (I have ZD-8915 desoldering station - inexpensive as well, works as charm even with post-RoHS stuff). I would try to fix this desoldering gun you have - for starters check the heating element (if it is not shorted/burned). If it's OK then check the temperature sensor.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby LuckyPiquel » 2019-6-13 @ 20:26

Hi everyone, happy to finally have something to share in my first post here! Today the CD-R drive for my current project arrived. It is MITSUMI CR-2600TE from 1997, and I got it in a box with manuals etc.

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According to the content list printed on the box, it seems that only some Disk Inspector Utility, IDE cable and initially attached blank CD's are missing. The drive is meant to be included in my dream machine from 1997, which I am currently building around Pentium 200 MMX.
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