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First post, by p6889k

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A friend gave me an old 486 board with a CPU upgrade in its 2nd socket and I need help determining what model of CPU it is as I would like to try it in another functioning 486 board of mine. Unfortunately the motherboard is oxidized and doesn't work anymore so I can't turn it on and see what it posts. The CPU itself has a heatsink on the top with no labels. I removed the CPU to see what's at the bottom, but google search didn't return anything. The motherboard has an oscillator in its OSC1 socket with 60 MHz chip, don't know what to tell from that. Half of it would be 30 MHz, but I'm not aware of any 486 cpu with that bus speed. Unless the previous owner installed wrong oscillator. I can't tell much else from the motherboard. The model is MB-1420/25/33V. Googling it didn't reveal anything and none of the jumpers have any information that would tell me how the board is setup.

I guess the last resort would be to remove the heatsink. How do I remove it safely? How do I ensure it doesn't remove any of the CPU model markings underneath the heatsink? How would I reattach the heatsink? Would normal modern cpu thermal paste work, even if there's nothing pressing the heatsink against the cpu?

Attached are pictures of the board and the cpu. Thank you.

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Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48k, 48k+, 128k, +2
Amiga 1200, 68030/40mhz
386DX/33, ET4000, SBPro2, MT32
Dual PPro/200, Millennium II, Voodoo 2, AWE32, SC-55
etc.

Reply 1 of 5, by p6889k

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I did some more googling and it looks like this is a Biostar MB-1420 board.

I found the board schematics here: https://th99.infania.net/m/A-B/32051.htm The board layout perfectly matches my board.

But the CPU jumper settings on the board in my possession do not reflect any of the valid configuration documented in the board instructions in the link above. Hmm...maybe the previous owner didn't know what he was doing or he was able to use some unsupported configuration. Either way, I can't decode how the CPU was setup on the board.

Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48k, 48k+, 128k, +2
Amiga 1200, 68030/40mhz
386DX/33, ET4000, SBPro2, MT32
Dual PPro/200, Millennium II, Voodoo 2, AWE32, SC-55
etc.

Reply 2 of 5, by Warlord

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i486DX would be my guess based on the printing under the CPU
Looks just like this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/INTEL-A80486DX-33-Ce … 89/293334592092

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Reply 3 of 5, by Warlord

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Right so pin 1 is labeled at the top of the jumper block. Per the diagram. jp 14 jp 7 both pins 1 and 2 closed JP8 pins 2-3 closed. JP 15 is jumpered on 2-3 I am not sure if that is open i think no jumper is open. As 1-2 and 2-3 are both settings.

make it like this picture for that CPU

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Reply 5 of 5, by p6889k

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Thank you for the help Warlord, you guessed the CPU correctly - Intel DX-33 (SX729).

I ended up removing the heatsink as I noticed it was attached with a thermal paste and not glue; it came of relatively easily with no damage to the cpu and no residue left on top of the CPU. I was hoping for a DX2 of some sort, but it's still a nice find.

Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48k, 48k+, 128k, +2
Amiga 1200, 68030/40mhz
386DX/33, ET4000, SBPro2, MT32
Dual PPro/200, Millennium II, Voodoo 2, AWE32, SC-55
etc.