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First post, by subnet_zero

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Hi Vogons,

it has happen that I have a working Commate P3-370A mainboard. It is a weird Socket370 and Slot1 combo motherboard. I got it together with a P3 600EB and 512 MB RAM.
I could find only very little information about this and there seems to be no manual available any more in the net. So I decided to document some things about this board to help other people.
And maybe someome here from Vogons has a manual for this.

I hope to get it working with a P2 233 MHz, Voodoo1 and an ISA Soundblaster or clone with DOS and WIN98.

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The name on my board is P3/370A, but the name P3/370A-VP can also be found.
The company is know as Commate, Tcommate or Taiwan Commate. I also found DCS as manufacturer.

My board has the VIA VT82C693A & VT82C596B and therefore it is the P3/370A-VP. To bad my board lacks the optional ALS4000 PnP Sound Chip. It even has a unpopulated SB_LINK connector.
The important things like FSB speed and the multiplier can be set with jumpers on the board. To my surprise, all those settings are written on the board.

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Here are the rest of the specs from marketing, the lower end P3/370A-V is also mentioned, if there is a difference.

CPU:
- Supports Intel Socket 370, Celeron, Pentium II and Pentium III 66/100/133MHz Front Side Bus Processors.
- P3/370A-V supports 66/100MHz FSB Processors only.
Chipset:
- VIA VT82C693 & VT82C596A for P3/370A-V.
- VIA VT82C693A & VT82C596B for P3/370A-VP.
DIMM/RAM:
- Supports 3.3V EDO or SDRAM in 3 banks, each bank consists of 1x168-pin 64-bit DIMM socket, which can support memory sizes of 8/16/32/64/128/256 MB modules.
- The P3/370A-VP can also support 512MB memory modules.
- P3/370A-V supports up to a maximum of 768MB system memory.
- P3/370A-VP supports up to 1.5GB system memory
IDE:
- Dual channel PIO and PCI Bus Master IDE ports support up to 4 EIDE devices for HDD or CD-ROM
- Supports PIO Mode 4 with data transfer rate up to 14 MB/Sec
- Supports Ultra DMA 33/66 (UDMA) with data transfer rate up to 33/66 MB/Sec (P3/370A-V supports DMA 33 only)
BIOS:
- Award BIOS V.4.51 with built-in Anti-Virus, DMI support, and green function (Plug-and-Play BIOS)
- Supports CD-ROM, SCSI, and LS120/ZIP boot up
I/O Devices:
- One FDD control port supports two of the 5.25” or 3.5” floppy drives up to 2.88 MB.
- Two high-speed 16550 UART compatible serial ports
- One parallel ports with ECP/ EPP compatibility.
- One PS/2 mouse port
- One PS/2 Keyboard connector
IR Port:
- One IrDA/ASKIR compatible Infrared interface port. (Cable optional)
USB Ports:
- Two Universal Serial Bus (USB 1.1) ports support up to 127 peripheral devices.
ATX Power:
- Supports Modem remote Ring-On function
- Supports software power off function
- Supports RTC Wake-Up.
- Supports Wake up on LAN.
Expansion Slots:
- Four 32-bit PCI expansion slots
- One 16-bit ISA expansion slots
- One 32-bit AGP 2x expansion slot
Dimension:
- 305 mm x 170 mm - ATX Form factor

Sound (optional) :
- ALS4000 PnP Sound Chip
- Built-in 3D Sound Effect Processor
- AC-Link Interface
- Built-in ALSFM synthesizer
- PPMI Power Management
- Enhanced normal & digital game port
- 16-bit full-duplex for concurrent recording and playback
- Compatible with DirectSound, DirectSound3D, Blaster, Sound Blaster Pro, and Sound Blaster 16 Emulation
- PC98 Specifications Compliant
- PCI Bus Master for PCI Audio/PCI 2.1/2.2 Compliant PCI Interface
- Support DDMA, Avance Legacy Support for legacy DMAC Emulation
- 64-Voice Wavetable Synthesis w/DLS-1 Support
- Support Sound Blaster ADPCM decompression
- Sample record/playback rates up to 48KHz

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The Jumpersettings on the board written are:
connector for the front panel
JFRNT
A: Green LED
B: Reset
C: IDE LED
D: PWR BTN
E: SMI S/W
F: Key Lock
G: PWR LED
H: SPEAKER

FSBCLK: AUTO | 133 | 100 | 66
JFSB0: NC | 1-2 | 1-2 | 2-3
JFSB1: NC | 1-2 | 2-3 | 2-3

RATIO | JF0 | JF1 | JF2 | JF 3
3.0 | 1-2 | 2-3 | 1-2 | 1-2
3.5 | 1-2 | 2-3 | 2-3 | 1-2
4.0 | 2-3 | 1-2 | 1-2 | 1-2
4.5 | 2-3 | 1-2 | 2-3 | 1-2
5.0 | 2-3 | 2-3 | 1-2 | 1-2
5.5 | 2-3 | 2-3 | 2-3 | 1-2
6.0 | 1-2 | 1-2 | 1-2 | 2-3
6.5 | 1-2 | 1-2 | 2-3 | 2-3
7.0 | 1-2 | 2-3 | 1-2 | 2-3
7.5 | 1-2 | 2-3 | 2-3 | 2-3
8.0 | 2-3 | 1-2 | 1-2 | 2-3

Reply 1 of 7, by subnet_zero

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Biosfiles: V1.2, V1.3 and V1.6
The last one I can confirm working on my board, due to the last owner who updated it. Thanks.

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Here are some links:
The archived Taiwan Commate website:
https://web.archive.org/web/20000303023144/ht … w/p3370a-vp.htm

The archived DCS Computer website:
https://web.archive.org/web/20010113141700/ht … omputer.com.tw/

Some infos in Japanese:
http://www8.plala.or.jp/jinbei/page018.html

Some mentioning in a magazin of MCmicrocomputer from April 2000
https://issuu.com/adpware/docs/mc205/80

And some Word document about the board from DCS, last changed 28.Dec. 1999

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Reply 2 of 7, by Horun

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Good work !

Hate posting a reply and then have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. Stuff: https://archive.org/details/@horun

Reply 3 of 7, by subnet_zero

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Horun wrote on 2021-01-24, 17:24:

Good work !

Thank you.

Edit 2021-01-28:
I now can confirm it working with a Pentium II with 233 MHz and the BIOS Version 1.6 that I posted before.

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Reply 4 of 7, by subnet_zero

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Oh, this is hilarious. On the first boot from hardisk, the BIOS installs a small tool onto my desktop to ask me if i want their "PhoenixNet Internet Essentials" downloading next time the PC has internet connection. It even puts a link on the desktop to this long gone URL: https://seqdl.com/servlets/Redir?BID=65457&CID9875

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The wayback machine helps and shows a redirect to: https://web.archive.org/web/20010419192921/ht … phoenixnet.com/

Oh what...Look at this FAQ: https://web.archive.org/web/20010331052744/ht … bout/index.html

Q: How does PhoenixNet decide what tools to offer?
A: PhoenixNet carefully selects the best-of-breed products and services from respected technology manufacturers. Through a careful review process, PhoenixNet determines what type of tools and services would be most valuable to our users. Then we select the best providers of these products and enter into partnerships with them in order to provide these tools directly through our network, usually for free. We are always forming new partnerships and adding to our service in order to meet the needs of end users worldwide

I'm sure they always offer the most valuable, best-of-breed products for my free end user needs. I'm sold to this. 😆️

This would have me upset back in the days, but now it is just another curiosity from the past. 😂️

Reply 6 of 7, by subnet_zero

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JimWest wrote on 2021-02-02, 23:34:

I am pleased that the board has come into good hands. 😉
I didn't know that something like this was possible through the BIOS. Great find!

I'm quite happy with it, thanks. 😊
I also like the two systems you recently sold on ebay. Very well done even with the details. 👌