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First post, by Madao

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Hello people
I got a XT Clone from dumpster diving.
Their full height MFM hard disk is wreid.

It came from National (Panasonic) , but i couldn't get info about this harddisk.

Have someone information about this cute piece?

regards
Matt

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Reply 1 of 12, by Horun

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Good find ! Hope the motherboard and floppies work ! Sorry can help on the Hard drive.
Can you pull the cards out and take a good picture of the motherboard ?
If mine I would ditch that HD as the main case is damaged by fall/drop/kicked so the HD most likely will not work anyway. Back then they were glass/ceramic platters and very fragile.

Hate posting a reply and then have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. Stuff: https://archive.org/details/@horun

Reply 2 of 12, by BitWrangler

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Basic info 1/3 the way down the page here, page 182 in the pdf if it don't take you straight there...
https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_fujitsu … e/n182/mode/2up

Edit: heh, should mention you're looking for Matsushiti on the left

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 3 of 12, by Madao

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Thanks. ! It is a 10MB MFM (probably a RLL-harddisk, because C 160 H 6 S26 = 12,77MB unformatted capacity)

I know: Matsushita is other old name from panasonic.

Yes, i haven't many hope for harddisk because: Someone has bent case out and put it back and trown it to pile of metal scrap.
XT Clone is produced in 1985, Motherboard look like "self soldered " with many old TTL from 1970s (data code)

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Reply 4 of 12, by ODwilly

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Nice find!

Main pc: Asus ROG 17. R9 5900HX, RTX 3070m, 16gb ddr4 3200, 1tb NVME.
Retro PC: Soyo P4S Dragon, 3gb ddr 266, 120gb Maxtor, Geforce Fx 5950 Ultra, SB Live! 5.1

Reply 5 of 12, by Madao

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Horun wrote on 2021-08-27, 02:42:

Can you pull the cards out and take a good picture of the motherboard ?

It is self build XT clone board.
It runs

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Reply 6 of 12, by Madao

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Next good message:

Harddisk is survived, no damage, no bad track & sector. (excuse me, i use orginal IBM DOS 3.3 german , Pic show you: 8Meg on drive and same count is avaible. )

CRAZY !

(Ok, i have formatted it with MFM and not RLL )

https://youtu.be/4poYkAxZjYo

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Reply 7 of 12, by BitWrangler

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I guess it might have been properly parked before it was tossed around. Two auto parking utils here if you haven't got a specific one ... http://annex.retroarchive.org/cdrom/nightowl- … 028A/index.html

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Reply 8 of 12, by dormcat

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BitWrangler wrote on 2021-08-27, 03:02:

Basic info 1/3 the way down the page here, page 182 in the pdf if it don't take you straight there...
https://archive.org/details/bitsavers_fujitsu … e/n182/mode/2up

Edit: heh, should mention you're looking for Matsushiti on the left

I wonder why the table has listed the company as "Matsushiti"
The English title was Matsushita Communication Industrial Co., Ltd.

Reply 10 of 12, by BitWrangler

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dormcat wrote on 2021-08-30, 17:55:

I wonder why the table has listed the company as "Matsushiti"

No idea, but it appears consistent throughout the publication. If it went through another language than English first, maybe they phoneticised it differently.

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Reply 11 of 12, by BitWrangler

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Madao wrote on 2021-08-30, 17:56:

@BitWrangler
I have a problem: Landingszone ist unkown.

But thanks for link for autoparking.

The highest cylinder plus 1 is the commonest landing zone location I have seen, but some use -1 or 0 I think.

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