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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 10860 of 53280, by brassicGamer

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keenmaster486 wrote:

One AMD K6-II 300 MHz processor. Does this mean it's a Super Socket 7 (and the K6-II won't work with a normal Socket 7)?

It will work as it is voltage- and pin- compatible, but the old board will not support the higher bus speeds required by newer CPUs so it will run at a slower speed.

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And another (this time Intel 😀 ) Socket 7 board, with the same problem of not having any ports except AT keyboard. This one also doesn't have an AGP slot, so I can't use it for my DOS machine since I don't have a PCI video card 🙁. Notice the kind of dorky "Mr. BIOS" chip.

There is no such thing as an Intel socket 7 board with AGP - it's only available on boards with 440LX and newer chipsets. Of course super socket 7 boards with SIS, VIA, etc. also support AGP. So you will need a PCI card. Happy hunting!

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Is the "Socket 462" backwards-compatible with Socket 7?

Nope. In-between SS7 and socket 462 you had slot A - they are completely different because AMD redesigned their FSB system.

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Reply 10861 of 53280, by gdjacobs

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To be clear, AMD didn't redesign their FSB. They used the DEC Alpha EV6 FSB. In fact, some systems were built and sold using Alpha processors and the AMD Irongate chipset.

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Reply 10862 of 53280, by keenmaster486

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OK, makes sense. Thanks! I guess I'll have to keep an eye out for a decent PCI video card.

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Reply 10863 of 53280, by Lukeno94

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keenmaster486 wrote:
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only the 1st picture is shown.

AWE64 needs drivers for DOS compatibility.

OK, it's fixed! And what are those drivers like, do they use a lot of memory? And how well do they work? With the drivers, what's the difference between AWE64 and non-PnP SB16?

Pictures still broken for me.

EDIT: Socket 462 and Socket A are the same thing, by the way.

Reply 10864 of 53280, by Malvineous

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Got a Teac FD-55A drive today, opened but still in its original box and apparently unused. This is a very early drive, one of the first in Teac's FD-55 series and it was bought sight unseen based on the box only.

Turns out it's actually an external drive, with a 20-pin IDC ribbon cable that appears to carry both power and data. I will have to take the enclosure apart to see what sort of pinout it uses and whether it's PC compatible. Of course PC compatibility would be of limited use, as it's only a single-sided drive, so that means only 180kB usable on each 360kB floppy. Still, DOS supports it, and nice to have as part of the Teac collection!

Reply 10865 of 53280, by brostenen

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What a beauty, that TEAC floppy drive. 😜
Raw and evil looking. 😁

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Reply 10866 of 53280, by keenmaster486

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Lukeno94 wrote:

Pictures still broken for me.

GAH! I think I fixed it now. Stupid Google Photos.

Nice floppy drive! Looks like it just rolled off the assembly line.

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Reply 10867 of 53280, by PeterLI

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I need an enclosure like that for my ST-296N. 😀

Reply 10868 of 53280, by vlask

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keenmaster486 wrote:
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I have no idea what this card is. Back of the card says "Vertex M1". Can anyone shed some light on this?

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A Diamond card. Don't know what it is.

1st one is Gainward model GW807 - because GW807D is Riva128ZX with SDR memory, i think yours is SGRAM model or earlier Riva128 version without ZX limited to 4MB
2nd one is Diamond Viper V550 (NVIDIA RIVA TNT 16MB)

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Reply 10869 of 53280, by keenmaster486

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Hey, great! Thanks for revealing that. No idea if they work yet - I'll have to test them in my PIII MB.

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Reply 10870 of 53280, by kithylin

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keenmaster486 wrote:
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Sound Blaster AWE64 CT4520 ISA. If I'm not mistaken, this should be completely DOS-compatible with the vast majority of games. Correct me if I'm wrong. And does this card need ANY sort of a driver in DOS?

He also sold me a 20GB 7200RPM hard drive, an AT power supply, and a whole bunch of various cords and connectors I'm going to need for the Pentium build.

Anyway, it was a productive weekend. I'll probably sell two or three of those motherboards and make some $$ off of this, the rest of the stuff will go in my "unspecified computer stuff" bin till the Lord comes.

Actually if you intend to use the AWE / Advanced Wavetable functions of that card it does require you to load the full driver suite from the CD in dos.

The full driver CD is over here on vogons drivers section: https://www.vogonsdrivers.com/index.php?catid … menustate=40,33

You're looking for "Sound Blaster AWE64 Value Driver CD" should have dos drivers in it.

Also.. you have the kind of cut-down "Value" Edition.. Still great, but the AWE64 Gold cards are a little better.

Reply 10871 of 53280, by keenmaster486

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kithylin wrote:

Actually if you intend to use the AWE / Advanced Wavetable functions of that card it does require you to load the full driver suite from the CD in dos.

OK - for what I'm doing, I'm not sure if I'll ever need the AWE functions; maybe I will someday, you never know. But I'm fairly certain I'm not really going to need the gold card. How does the AWE64 Value compare to the SB16? Because I would probably be perfectly happy with an SB16, given what I'm doing with it (early 90's era games, light mp3 listening).

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Reply 10872 of 53280, by kithylin

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keenmaster486 wrote:
kithylin wrote:

Actually if you intend to use the AWE / Advanced Wavetable functions of that card it does require you to load the full driver suite from the CD in dos.

OK - for what I'm doing, I'm not sure if I'll ever need the AWE functions; maybe I will someday, you never know. But I'm fairly certain I'm not really going to need the gold card. How does the AWE64 Value compare to the SB16? Because I would probably be perfectly happy with an SB16, given what I'm doing with it (early 90's era games, light mp3 listening).

I usually load all the creative drivers into a system with my AWE cards just to enable all of it's functions. You can play with config.sys/autoexec.bat and get all of em loaded in to upper memory out of conventional if you mess with it a bit. That's me though.

Reply 10873 of 53280, by xjas

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Here's some actual hardware this time. A small-time computer shop posted this AGP Radeon for free(!) on the local buy & sell site. It's a 9250 with 128MB RAM, nothing smoking hot. To be honest, I'm probably not even going to use it in anything, but I *do* need that handy VGA connector on its ribbon cable for a project I'm working on. Considering the shop is literally on my drive to work, it seemed like a useful thing to snag.

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While I was in there I spotted the cute Shuttle mini-PC case. It's pretty stripped; there's an Athlon XP / 962 board in there but nothing else, and especially no PSU (which is proprietary.) The form factor is apparently "flexATX" but Shuttle call it "Shuttle form factor" so who knows what fits it for mobos.

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The shop owner gave it to me for the $5 US note I had in my wallet. I think he was just happy to get rid of a shelf weight. Score!

I'm gonna have to adapt it for something, maybe my 6xISA backplane and single-board PC setup. The Athlon itself could even be useful if I can get it going as it is, but finding that PSU for cheap is gonna be tricky.

I want to put a lunchbox handle on top so I can carry it around like a lunchbox. 😎 Party rig!

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Reply 10874 of 53280, by dexter311

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xjas wrote:

and especially no PSU (which is proprietary.)

FlexATX PSUs are still available, they aren't specific to Shuttles (Seasonic make a 300W one, for example... FSP also make them).

The styling reminds me of a hybrid between Fujitsu-Siemens and Coolermaster cases from the early 2000s. Cool little case! 😊

Reply 10875 of 53280, by PhilsComputerLab

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That shuttle case brings back some good memories! Never had one, but it was quite "a thing" back in the day.

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Reply 10876 of 53280, by keropi

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My brother had one of these shuttle pcs... After a couple of years of usage it had random problems and after a while it was just unreliable for any kind of work... I believe it's the heat that kills them. He binned it 🤣

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Reply 10877 of 53280, by brostenen

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keropi wrote:

My brother had one of these shuttle pcs... After a couple of years of usage it had random problems and after a while it was just unreliable for any kind of work... I believe it's the heat that kills them. He binned it 🤣

They are all but gone on the market here as well. They were cool, just that nearly all broke down and died within 10 years.

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Reply 10878 of 53280, by Skyscraper

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Some new stuff.

A Sound blaster 16 SCSI CT1770, I mostly bought this because of the included internal to extrernal adapter. The price was ~16 euro shipped.

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Some new CPUs, a bit over £20 including shipping for the lot, 2-3 CPUs are damaged.

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New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 10879 of 53280, by BSA Starfire

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Bought this little beast today, VIA EPIA 10000, it has a C3 nehemiah 1GHz cpu & 512mb DDR RAM. Should be a bit of fun to mess with, I do have a soft spot for the VIA CPU's even if they are rather dreadful.

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