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Reply 20 of 26, by swaaye

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Some PCI sound cards used MMX. Without it the CPU utilization might be higher. But that's probably only for things like Direct sound 3D / A3D emulation and soft synths.

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Reply 21 of 26, by The Serpent Rider

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lawyerpepper wrote:

There were no mulit-core desktop

Actially no. Windows XP knows if CPU has internal multi-threading or not, because Pentium 4 had Hyper-Threading technology, but still identified as dual-core. But Windows 2000 Professional can't discern between physical and logical threads and won't fully support Core 2 Quad.

but multi-core desktop chips didn't show up until Intel shipped the Core Duo in '06

Pentium D Extreme had 4 threads in 2005. 2 physical cores with HT support.

I must be some kind of standard: the anonymous gangbanger of the 21st century.

Reply 22 of 26, by lawyerpepper

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The Serpent Rider wrote on 2022-03-03, 17:30:
Actially no. Windows XP knows if CPU has internal multi-threading or not, because Pentium 4 had Hyper-Threading technology, but […]
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lawyerpepper wrote:

There were no mulit-core desktop

Actially no. Windows XP knows if CPU has internal multi-threading or not, because Pentium 4 had Hyper-Threading technology, but still identified as dual-core. But Windows 2000 Professional can't discern between physical and logical threads and won't fully support Core 2 Quad.

but multi-core desktop chips didn't show up until Intel shipped the Core Duo in '06

Pentium D Extreme had 4 threads in 2005. 2 physical cores with HT support.

We could quibble about Hyper-Threading, but you're absolutely right about the P-D Extreme - I forgot all about that. Way too rich for my wallet, at least back then.

Reply 23 of 26, by Winman486

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davidrg wrote on 2022-03-03, 03:37:
Thats as good a reason as any in my book! I found these old Compaq EISA-equipped servers pretty fun to play with. […]
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Winman486 wrote on 2022-03-03, 03:20:

Thanks for the help and yes I understand it would be a single CPU again my main reasoning is doing it cause I can if I can find drivers and I like using computers for more than one thing. But I will try these disks!

Thats as good a reason as any in my book! I found these old Compaq EISA-equipped servers pretty fun to play with.

If the server has a Compaq SMART array controller then you'll need a few more SoftPaqs - I think at least SP19757 (Download, Readme - Array Diagnostic Utility) and perhaps and SP17917 (Download, Readme - Array Configuration Utility) both for Windows NT 4. Some older versions (SP6263 may be the newest) install to the system partition - I assume places running NetWare must have stuck with this version as all later versions seem to require Windows NT.

Edit: Looking at your photos in the other thread you do appear to have a RAID controller - perhaps a SMART-2/P. Probably worth checking the state of its cache batteries. Running the system config utility may also clear your CPU error - if the server wasn't previously running with four processors it might just be complaining because it wasn't expecting them to be there.

Ok, so I installed a video card. And depending on the slot I cant get the machine to detect scsi drives or it wont show video.

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Reply 24 of 26, by Azarien

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The Serpent Rider wrote on 2022-03-03, 17:30:

Windows XP knows if CPU has internal multi-threading or not, because Pentium 4 had Hyper-Threading technology, but still identified as dual-core. But Windows 2000 Professional can't discern between physical and logical threads and won't fully support Core 2 Quad.

Why wouldn't it? Core 2 Quad does not have Hyper Threading, there are 4 symmetrical cores (sort of. it's more complicated when it comes to the cache) which should be simply detected as 4 processors.

EDIT: Ah, ok, I got it. Stupid limitation to 2 CPUs.

Reply 25 of 26, by Winman486

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Azarien wrote on 2022-03-04, 05:52:
The Serpent Rider wrote on 2022-03-03, 17:30:

Windows XP knows if CPU has internal multi-threading or not, because Pentium 4 had Hyper-Threading technology, but still identified as dual-core. But Windows 2000 Professional can't discern between physical and logical threads and won't fully support Core 2 Quad.

Why wouldn't it? Core 2 Quad does not have Hyper Threading, there are 4 symmetrical cores (sort of. it's more complicated when it comes to the cache) which should be simply detected as 4 processors.

EDIT: Ah, ok, I got it. Stupid limitation to 2 CPUs.

Update with a reason 9250 it wont show SCSI drives but with an s3 Virge it will.

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Reply 26 of 26, by RetroGamer4Ever

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XP worked wonderfully on the Core Duo chips and many Windows XP Media Center PCs shipped with those CPUs, before Vista took hold. I ran a Q6600 with XP for a long time, as my main gaming machine.