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Reply 22160 of 53131, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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Loony wrote:

Xp? 8800gt? Retro? I was expecting to see the word not in there somewhere.

Windows XP is 17 years old.

Horrifying realization isn't it?

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Reply 22161 of 53131, by appiah4

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:
Loony wrote:

Xp? 8800gt? Retro? I was expecting to see the word not in there somewhere.

Windows XP is 17 years old.

Horrifying realization isn't it?

Well, some of the things we consider still modern are.. I don't know how to put this. Last night I was watching a Radeon 7000 review video by what seems to have been a millenial, who went on about trying to install the AGP card into his modern HP computer, trying to insert it into various PCI-E slots before he figured out it was AGP.. He was considering trying to run modern games on a 32MB card.

So yeah.. It's all about perspective. To me, Windows XP is still yesterday. I remember BBSing on 2400 baud and having my mind blown. To others, Windows Vista is retro already.

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Reply 22162 of 53131, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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appiah4 wrote:
TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:
Loony wrote:

Xp? 8800gt? Retro? I was expecting to see the word not in there somewhere.

Windows XP is 17 years old.

Horrifying realization isn't it?

Well, some of the things we consider still modern are.. I don't know how to put this. Last night I was watching a Radeon 7000 review video by what seems to have been a millenial, who went on about trying to install the AGP card into his modern HP computer, trying to insert it into various PCI-E slots before he figured out it was AGP.. He was considering trying to run modern games on a 32MB card.

So yeah.. It's all about perspective. To me, Windows XP is still yesterday. I remember BBSing on 2400 baud and having my mind blown. To others, Windows Vista is retro already.

I'm a millenial too.

I'm just not a stupid millenial like most millenials.

Science, Art, History and Philosophy excite me. I read National Geographic front to back each month and I write papers for fun.

Most of my generation just cares about screamo music, Intercourse, and pop culture. Fucking idiots.

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Reply 22163 of 53131, by spiroyster

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

Most of my generation just cares about screamo music, Intercourse, and pop culture. Fucking idiots.

some things never change... sounds like the 90's, o.0 ... except we didn't have all these fancy dancy pedantic sub genre names... its was just called "emo", and was already shite back then (subjective ofcourse 🤣)...

[EDIT:] Actually don't remember it being called 'emo' up until real late 90's (98/99)... it would have fallen under the NuMetal genre which started appearing mid 90's... I've said too much.

Reply 22164 of 53131, by agent_x007

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Few months ago I asked a question here :

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My question is : Did I covered everything ?
I mean, with all of ^these, are there any games/programs that will present compatibility problems regardless of what I put in my system ?

Full post : [LINK]
Well, now I got a small update on that.
I managed to bought few ISA cards to make my collection complete 😀

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OPL3 SBPro 2.0 Compatible ISA Card? No OPL3 SB16 Compatible ISA Card? Check Software Synth ISA Card? Check CQM AWE32 Compatible […]
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OPL3 SBPro 2.0 Compatible ISA Card? No
OPL3 SB16 Compatible ISA Card? Check
Software Synth ISA Card? Check
CQM AWE32 Compatible ISA Card? Yes
OPL3 AWE32 Compatible ISA Card? No
Wavetable Daughterboard ISA Card (w/o Hanging Note Bug)? Check
GUS ISA Card? No
SBPro 2.0 Compatible PCI Card? Check
SB16 Compatible PCI Card? Check
Software Wavetable PCI Card? Check
Wavetable Daughterboard PCI Card? No

^This list of features was extremely helpful.
I think it should be pinned/copied somewhere where any newcomers to ISA sound cards can easy find it.
I would add CMS and/or AdLib describtions as well (since most beginners don't know what they are)

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^Full quality : LINK

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Reply 22167 of 53131, by dionb

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spiroyster wrote:

some things never change... sounds like the 90's, o.0 ... except we didn't have all these fancy dancy pedantic sub genre names... its was just called "emo", and was already shite back then (subjective ofcourse 🤣)...

[EDIT:] Actually don't remember it being called 'emo' up until real late 90's (98/99)... it would have fallen under the NuMetal genre which started appearing mid 90's... I've said too much.

No fancy subgenres? You obviously never made the mistake of calling a New Waver a Goth 😜
(and you definitely didn't have a best friend who wore black leather and spikes, played in a metal band with aggressive screaming vocals with lyrics about darkness and the occult who nonetheless objected vehemently to it being called Black Metal 😵 )

But seeing Windows XP being called 'vintage' does make one feel old. Not the worst case this week though. In my student days I studied history and was active in the International Students of History Association. I still get occasional communications from them as an alumnus. At some seminar they're doing a workshop on history in computer games, contemporary and historical. Civilization I - which was my main time-waster at secondary school - was treated the way some ancient text was treated: something important from the distant past that no one had actually seen in real life, but discussed as part of some canon or other. They had never truly felt what it was like to have Gandhi threaten you with NUCLEAR WEAPONS 🤣

Reply 22168 of 53131, by Murugan

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Not from today but last week.... 😀

https://imgur.com/JjXptKI
https://i.imgur.com/jtLmuJQ.jpg
https://imgur.com/IvSeGDh
https://imgur.com/MzobUho

Boxes are filled with RAM, GPU's, sound cards, fans, mainboards + RAM + CPU (going from 486 to Athlon XP).
Most of the cases are Socket 7 systems, a P3 and some empty ones

My retro collection: too much...

Reply 22169 of 53131, by bjwil1991

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Murugan wrote:
Not from today but last week.... :) […]
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Not from today but last week.... 😀

https://imgur.com/JjXptKI
https://i.imgur.com/jtLmuJQ.jpg
https://imgur.com/IvSeGDh
https://imgur.com/MzobUho

Boxes are filled with RAM, GPU's, sound cards, fans, mainboards + RAM + CPU (going from 486 to Athlon XP).
Most of the cases are Socket 7 systems, a P3 and some empty ones

That box art for the DFI LanParty board is amazing. You don't see that anymore.

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Reply 22170 of 53131, by Murugan

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bjwil1991 wrote:
Murugan wrote:
Not from today but last week.... :) […]
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Not from today but last week.... 😀

https://imgur.com/JjXptKI
https://i.imgur.com/jtLmuJQ.jpg
https://imgur.com/IvSeGDh
https://imgur.com/MzobUho

Boxes are filled with RAM, GPU's, sound cards, fans, mainboards + RAM + CPU (going from 486 to Athlon XP).
Most of the cases are Socket 7 systems, a P3 and some empty ones

That box art for the DFI LanParty board is amazing. You don't see that anymore.

TBH I never had a LanParty board but I must agree. Those were the days....
This one will likely never be used by me 😀

My retro collection: too much...

Reply 22171 of 53131, by Cyrix200+

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Guys, it might be better to move the discussion on what is retro/vintage/etc to a thread like this one: What do you consider the break point between vintage and modern? .

1982 to 2001

Reply 22172 of 53131, by Flakchak

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Received this package the other day. I had funds allocated for other things, but when this popped on eBay, I didn't hesitate.

Packard Bell Axcel 39CDT. The year they came out escapes me right now.

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Reply 22174 of 53131, by britain4

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Just won this old Daewoo laptop on eBay:

Not in very good shape apparently with a dying hard drive and the hinges are broken BUT I only paid £10 for it and I thought it was interesting enough to be worth saving!

It’s a 486, very small and apparently boots to Windows 98 but other than that I know nothing about it, never seen anything of the sort before so if I can fix the hinge plastics and give it a clean copy of Win95 it should be good. I’m not sure until it gets here if the hard drive is actually dying or if it’s just the result of trying to run Windows 98 on a 486 and 4mb RAM, no idea how much memory it has!

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- P-MMX 200MHZ, PCChips M598LMR, Voodoo
- P-MMX 233MHz, FIC PA2013, S3 ViRGE + Voodoo
- PII 400MHz, MSI MS6119, ATI Rage Pro Turbo + Voodoo2 SLI
- PIII 1400MHz, ECS P6IPAT, Voodoo5 5500
- Toshiba Libretto 110CT, 300MHz, 96MB RAM

Reply 22175 of 53131, by appiah4

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

Most of my generation just cares about screamo music, Intercourse, and pop culture. Fucking idiots.

Well. Intercourse is good. Just saying.

In other news I found a new old stock 14" Super VGA Monochrome Monitor (how does that work?), Tatung VM-14AF. It's not gonna break the bank at around $25. Is it worth buying? I have no hardware older than a 486SX, so it wouldn't really be a fluffy fit for anything at the moment, but maybe one day it would be great for an 8086/88 or 286 with say a Hercules card? My first PC was an 8086 with a Hercules and b/w monitor. But I have a feeling this is not actually a very retro hardware at all, sounds like it has a make year of 1998? What the hell IS a Super VGA Monochrome monitor anyway? 😕

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Reply 22176 of 53131, by britain4

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Also picked this up which apart from crashing quite scarily when I first set it up works nicely and absolutely flies with Win98 -

I’ve fitted a brand new 60gb hard drive, overclocked it to 266mhz and upgraded it to 64mb RAM... well, sort of, it was sold as 32mb and had 32mb when I first got it but I found the expansion module under the keyboard that wasn’t seated in place so now it has 64 😁

Next comes the 96mb “hack” and rebuilding the battery for the ultimate retro portable!

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- P-MMX 200MHZ, PCChips M598LMR, Voodoo
- P-MMX 233MHz, FIC PA2013, S3 ViRGE + Voodoo
- PII 400MHz, MSI MS6119, ATI Rage Pro Turbo + Voodoo2 SLI
- PIII 1400MHz, ECS P6IPAT, Voodoo5 5500
- Toshiba Libretto 110CT, 300MHz, 96MB RAM

Reply 22177 of 53131, by bjwil1991

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Interesting. Can you make the image smaller by adding the letter h before the .jpg file?

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Reply 22178 of 53131, by britain4

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bjwil1991 wrote:

Interesting. Can you make the image smaller by adding the letter h before the .jpg file?

Wow OK sorry about that, they were big images! I can't figure out what you mean about adding the h though?

- P-MMX 200MHZ, PCChips M598LMR, Voodoo
- P-MMX 233MHz, FIC PA2013, S3 ViRGE + Voodoo
- PII 400MHz, MSI MS6119, ATI Rage Pro Turbo + Voodoo2 SLI
- PIII 1400MHz, ECS P6IPAT, Voodoo5 5500
- Toshiba Libretto 110CT, 300MHz, 96MB RAM

Reply 22179 of 53131, by oeuvre

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A cheap SB Live sound card for an LGA775 motherboard with seemingly borked onboard audio.

HP Z420 Workstation Intel Xeon E5-1620, 32GB, RADEON HD7850 2GB, SSD + HD, XP/7
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