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Reply 3220 of 27685, by PhilsComputerLab

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Nice 😀

Produced a video about the Athlon XP vs Pentium 4. I used a 6800 GT this time and it helped separate the processors more. It shows that AMD's performance rating on the top Athlon XP processors was a bit dodgy 🤣

I'm also looking at 865 vs 875 chipset, hardly worth it IMO. You will have an easier time finding one, and spend less money, going with a 865 chipset board.

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Reply 3221 of 27685, by clueless1

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I switched DOS machines (again) today. I've been gaming on a Celeron 333/32MB/GeForce2 MX AGP/Audician/Dreamblaster S1 high-end machine. As great as it runs the demanding stuff, it's just too slow with L1 cache disabled (about 286/12 speeds) and too fast with L1 enabled for many games. So I'm back to the Packard Bell P133/32MB/Cirrus Logic/Audician/Dreamblaster S1. 😀 Given that this is pretty much period correct for 1996, I'm surprised at how slow it runs WC3 and System Shock SVGA. This hardware is faster than was available when these games were released! At any rate, the P133 has a better speed with L1 disabled (about 386/20 speeds) so is more flexible with a range of games.

I also ordered a couple of PCI video cards to play with/benchmark. A TNT2 M64 16MB and Number Nine Reality 332 2MB (S3 Virge 325). Paid $24 shipped for both cards. Hopefully they are in good condition because they should both be faster than the CL GD5430 1MB in the Packard Bell.

Oh, and I beat a few more missions on Wing Commander 3 and am now at Kilrah. 😀 One three-part mission to beat and I win the game.

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OPL3 FM vs. Roland MT-32 vs. General MIDI DOS Game Comparison
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Reply 3222 of 27685, by Imperious

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I received some Nvidia Quadro cards last week, $38 delivered for the pair off ebay, so thought I had better test them before putting in some feedback
for the seller. In the photo attached, the top one is a Quadro FX3500 (G71 7800 GPU) and lower one is a Quadro FX3450 (NV42 6800 GPU). I was going to
test them on a C2D based machine, but that was going to take too much time, so instead just pulled the R9-270 from my main rig, removed the sata
connector off my Win7 HDD, and installed them along with Rivatuner in my XP hdd. Some results wiil be shortly uploaded to the Doom3 and 3dmark2001 threads.

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Reply 3223 of 27685, by PhilsComputerLab

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Nice, I like the Quadro cards 😀

More people should get them, I see the bulk of them ending up in recycling heaven 🙁

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Reply 3224 of 27685, by zerker

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Finally got my front-panel USB wired properly for my transplanted eTower 500ix setup. The existing case had a proprietary ribbon cable connector:
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So with some continuity testing, and some loose jumper wires, I got it all hooked up properly:
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Well, at least the one port the motherboard actually supports. Now I just need to pick up a USB port cover to block off the port that isn't wired.

Reply 3226 of 27685, by Arctic

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Playing Unreal Tournament 2003 online.

Playing Tomb Raider 4 and Quake 3 Arena on Sega Dreamcast.

Sorting cables, getting rid of drives and cables etc.

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clueless1 wrote:

I switched DOS machines (again) today. I've been gaming on a Celeron 333/32MB/GeForce2 MX AGP/Audician/Dreamblaster S1 high-end machine. As great as it runs the demanding stuff, it's just too slow with L1 cache disabled (about 286/12 speeds) and too fast with L1 enabled for many games. So I'm back to the Packard Bell P133/32MB/Cirrus Logic/Audician/Dreamblaster S1. 😀 Given that this is pretty much period correct for 1996, I'm surprised at how slow it runs WC3 and System Shock SVGA. This hardware is faster than was available when these games were released! At any rate, the P133 has a better speed with L1 disabled (about 386/20 speeds) so is more flexible with a range of games.

I also ordered a couple of PCI video cards to play with/benchmark. A TNT2 M64 16MB and Number Nine Reality 332 2MB (S3 Virge 325). Paid $24 shipped for both cards. Hopefully they are in good condition because they should both be faster than the CL GD5430 1MB in the Packard Bell.

Oh, and I beat a few more missions on Wing Commander 3 and am now at Kilrah. 😀 One three-part mission to beat and I win the game.

MMX does help a lot! I had a P166@200. All I had to do was using a program like AT-Slow or the like.

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Reply 3227 of 27685, by rick6

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Arctic wrote:
Playing Unreal Tournament 2003 online. […]
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Playing Unreal Tournament 2003 online.

Sorting cables, getting rid of drives and cables etc.

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What about ut2004 or even better, ut1? 😀

Were those drives faulty?

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Reply 3228 of 27685, by BSA Starfire

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Installed a Tseng Labs ET6000 2.5 mb PCI into my SiS 530 based K6-2 450 instead of the on board 6326 with shared memory. Also added a 90mm extractor fan as this machine does run pretty hot, especially when playing DVD's via the creative DXR-2. The tseng is crisper and also faster in Windows ME that the 530, drivers already in windows ME for the tseng too.
While I was feeling "temperature aware", put a larger heatsink/fan on my Mendocino Celeron 466 rather than the little socket 7 type it had before.

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Reply 3229 of 27685, by torindkflt

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Nuked the hard drive on an old Toshiba Tecra 9000 (PIII 1.2, 1GB RAM, 40GB HDD) I was recently given for disposal and installed Windows 2000 on it. Now I'm trying to find similar era software to put on it. I have some...somewhere. 🤣

Reply 3230 of 27685, by clueless1

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Arctic wrote:
clueless1 wrote:

I switched DOS machines (again) today. I've been gaming on a Celeron 333/32MB/GeForce2 MX AGP/Audician/Dreamblaster S1 high-end machine. As great as it runs the demanding stuff, it's just too slow with L1 cache disabled (about 286/12 speeds) and too fast with L1 enabled for many games. So I'm back to the Packard Bell P133/32MB/Cirrus Logic/Audician/Dreamblaster S1. 😀 Given that this is pretty much period correct for 1996, I'm surprised at how slow it runs WC3 and System Shock SVGA. This hardware is faster than was available when these games were released! At any rate, the P133 has a better speed with L1 disabled (about 386/20 speeds) so is more flexible with a range of games.

I also ordered a couple of PCI video cards to play with/benchmark. A TNT2 M64 16MB and Number Nine Reality 332 2MB (S3 Virge 325). Paid $24 shipped for both cards. Hopefully they are in good condition because they should both be faster than the CL GD5430 1MB in the Packard Bell.

Oh, and I beat a few more missions on Wing Commander 3 and am now at Kilrah. 😀 One three-part mission to beat and I win the game.

MMX does help a lot! I had a P166@200. All I had to do was using a program like AT-Slow or the like.

Yeah, I'm on the lookout for POD 200 for this system. The motherboard officially supports this upgrade path. I'm hoping to gain some decent speed from the MMXness and hope that disabling the L1 on it leaves me at a similar (386/20) speed. They are rare and expensive, so I've got a saved search on ebay, hoping to get lucky.

The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know.
OPL3 FM vs. Roland MT-32 vs. General MIDI DOS Game Comparison
Let's benchmark our systems with cache disabled
DOS PCI Graphics Card Benchmarks

Reply 3232 of 27685, by Arctic

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rick6 wrote:
Arctic wrote:
Playing Unreal Tournament 2003 online. […]
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Playing Unreal Tournament 2003 online.

Sorting cables, getting rid of drives and cables etc.

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What about ut2004 or even better, ut1? 😀

Were those drives faulty?

Nope, I just don't have the space for them.
Are you interested? I have them until Tuesday

Reply 3233 of 27685, by BSA Starfire

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I could certainly use a few optical drives and some cables if any are going spare.

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Reply 3234 of 27685, by kithylin

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Sorry folks I was wrong. A friend of mine corrected me today and informed me that Quadro PCI-Express cards will SLI in any normal computer system, it's just the drivers are finicky and may not work.

Reply 3235 of 27685, by rick6

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Arctic wrote:

Nope, I just don't have the space for them.
Are you interested? I have them until Tuesday

Not really as i also got a fair amount of cd\dvd drives of my own, i'm just feeling really dumb for not throwing most of them away, even knowing some of them aren't working anymore..
MUST..KEEP...HOARDING! 😀

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Reply 3236 of 27685, by Skyscraper

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rick6 wrote:
Arctic wrote:

Nope, I just don't have the space for them.
Are you interested? I have them until Tuesday

Not really as i also got a fair amount of cd\dvd drives of my own, i'm just feeling really dumb for not throwing most of them away, even knowing some of them aren't working anymore..
MUST..KEEP...HOARDING! 😀

I have... better just call it many optical units. It's not hoarding as you never know when you need... ok I might be hoarding optical drives.

I did sort out some broken ones though, they are in my electronic waste bin in my apartment... which I never ever empty as it's my main source for spare caps, MOSFETs and such...

The worst part of beeing somewhat able to fix electronics is that you realize that even broken stuff is often very useful.

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Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 3237 of 27685, by HighTreason

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I have a shortage of optical drives, but can't be bothered to do anything about it yet. Still want to get hold of an LMSI, and maybe a Sony, CD-ROM drive at some point.

Today I did some more crappy CGI for something. Also looking at my VCR and thinking I might start going through my old tapes, I already went through most of my old audio cassettes not long ago so it stands to reason I should do the videos next. If the audio tapes were anything to go by I am in for a world of shit, the audio tapes had crappy pop music, badly recorded metal, even worse recordings of my old synths and some chavvy happy hardcore on them.

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