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Reply 6340 of 54979, by devius

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vmunix wrote:

I would add the the list S3 Virge DX 3D "decelerator" made the games slower with direct 3D enabled.

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The ATI Rage Mobility M1 graphics chip does that in some games with my Sony Vaio laptop, and its 1.1 GHz Duron... that's more a case of the GPU being well past its sell-by date when compared to the CPU though.

Hah... I wonder if that's also the case with the Virge. At the time everybody complained because software rendering was faster on the CPUs of that time (K6-2 and Pentium 2 I believe), but what would happen with a slower CPU like a Pentium 100MHz? Or even AMD 5x86-133?

Reply 6341 of 54979, by smeezekitty

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devius wrote:
vmunix wrote:

I would add the the list S3 Virge DX 3D "decelerator" made the games slower with direct 3D enabled.

Lukeno94 wrote:

The ATI Rage Mobility M1 graphics chip does that in some games with my Sony Vaio laptop, and its 1.1 GHz Duron... that's more a case of the GPU being well past its sell-by date when compared to the CPU though.

Hah... I wonder if that's also the case with the Virge. At the time everybody complained because software rendering was faster on the CPUs of that time (K6-2 and Pentium 2 I believe), but what would happen with a slower CPU like a Pentium 100MHz? Or even AMD 5x86-133?

I can confirm that it indeed improves both the framrate and image quality in games like tombraider on my 486

Reply 6342 of 54979, by vmunix

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devius wrote:
vmunix wrote:

I would add the the list S3 Virge DX 3D "decelerator" made the games slower with direct 3D enabled.

Lukeno94 wrote:

The ATI Rage Mobility M1 graphics chip does that in some games with my Sony Vaio laptop, and its 1.1 GHz Duron... that's more a case of the GPU being well past its sell-by date when compared to the CPU though.

Hah... I wonder if that's also the case with the Virge. At the time everybody complained because software rendering was faster on the CPUs of that time (K6-2 and Pentium 2 I believe), but what would happen with a slower CPU like a Pentium 100MHz? Or even AMD 5x86-133?

The only game I played (a lot!) with a Virge DX was X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter, ships and everything was smooth and nice, but explosions had black square artifacts (fog/smoke/translucent problem?) then I tried SW Ep.1 Racer and at times it was so choppy that it was unplayable. So I bought a Monster Fusion instead which it was already obsolete at that time, the difference was huge. I had a K6-233.

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Reply 6343 of 54979, by Lukeno94

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Based on my experiences with the Mobility M1 and the Duron 1.1 GHz, I can only imagine how much of a millstone it must've been in the higher-spec versions of my Vaio laptop; the PCG-FX805 used an AMD Athlon XP 1600+ CPU and a 1400x1050 screen... and yet Sony still used the well-out-of-date Mobility M1 there, which was just daft (drop a Radeon Mobility in, and you have a very capable machine.)

Reply 6344 of 54979, by HighTreason

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The Virge runs well in Terminal Velocity too... Though it does little more than add a bilinear filter.

Oh, I also got my grubby hands on these;
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Reply 6345 of 54979, by Lukeno94

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Nice laptops there HighTreason! It looks like the 410CDT is charging its battery to me, which is pretty impressive. Interesting to see the differences between my budget Satellite 200 CDT of a couple years later, and the 410CDT; trading off a faster CPU with a NiCad battery and a lower-res screen. The lower-res screen may actually be an advantage though, since the 410CDT only supports 256 colours at XGA levels, and the NiCad battery in mine, even when it seems totally dead, will start charging again after being connected for a couple of hours.

Reply 6346 of 54979, by sliderider

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xenu wrote:

Got these last week:

Wow, an Alliance card, two Trident cards and a SiS 6326. You're a real glutton for punishment.

Reply 6347 of 54979, by Sutekh94

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I've been noticing a lot of Toshiba love around here as of recent! 😎

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Reply 6348 of 54979, by Caluser2000

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Won an action for a BackPack parallel port CD Rom drive.

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Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉

Reply 6349 of 54979, by smeezekitty

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Caluser2000 wrote:

Won an action for a BackPack parallel port CD Rom drive.

Is that surprising?

The driver eats up 31K of memory though ack!

Reply 6350 of 54979, by Caluser2000

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Don't come up over here that often. It will be useful on my machines that don't have room for an internal cd reader. Especially my Zenith Z286LP Plus. At $5 plus postage it's hardly breaking the piggy bank.

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Reply 6351 of 54979, by Callahan

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Hi folks!
I just bought this ALR server mobo. Dual Pentium II, i442fx, 4xEdo Dimm, aic-7880scsi, 3xEISA, 4xPCI.
I want to power up this Motherboard but is using 20pin & 6pin psu socket, so, anyone know from what server it is?
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I think motherboard comes from ALR Revolution 2X server...?

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Reply 6352 of 54979, by kithylin

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Callahan wrote:
Hi folks! I just bought this ALR server mobo. Dual Pentium II, i442fx, 4xEdo Dimm, aic-7880scsi, 3xEISA, 4xPCI. I want to power […]
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Hi folks!
I just bought this ALR server mobo. Dual Pentium II, i442fx, 4xEdo Dimm, aic-7880scsi, 3xEISA, 4xPCI.
I want to power up this Motherboard but is using 20pin & 6pin psu socket, so, anyone know from what server it is?
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Thanks!
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If I remember right, it's from ALR Servers. As in, they make their own power supplies to go with it, with their own non-standard ALR-Only power supplies for those models, kind of similar to their Pentium-Pro systems too.

I might be wrong though.. but the last time I looked up An ALR pentium-pro board that was the case for that one, so possibly the same for your model there.

I think you're also going to need to populate the empty VRM socket, and use ecc-registered server ram. Possibly.. might be wrong there too but it's a server system, so.. it's likely.

Reply 6353 of 54979, by Callahan

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Thanks, but i have edo reg ecc dimms 5V, vrm & 2 cpus. Main problem is to find server model in which this motherboard worked. It is manufactured by Advanced Logic Research in 97yr but i'm 99% sure that was some Gateway 2000 server. Maybe i find datasheet.

Cpq: ap550(2x1G/256k), sp750(2x900/2MB), 5100(2xpII300)
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Super S2DG2@550/2MB SCSI 15k V5 5500
P4T533-C P4 3,06 Ti4600
Dell T700r @P3-700 V3 3500
PR440FX-2x PIIOD Voodoo 4500 PCI r320 CT1920

Reply 6354 of 54979, by vmunix

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the guy said it has never been used, he has some other stuff from the era still so I sort of believe him , too bad box or manuals are gone. I think this one might have come as part of a multimedia kit, with speakers & cd-rom

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Reply 6355 of 54979, by Artex

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vmunix wrote:

the guy said it has never been used, he has some other stuff from the era still so I sort of believe him , too bad box or manuals are gone. I think this one might have come as part of a multimedia kit, with speakers & cd-rom

Wasn't there a DSP board that plugged into "P3" on the top of this card?

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Reply 6356 of 54979, by vmunix

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Artex wrote:
vmunix wrote:

the guy said it has never been used, he has some other stuff from the era still so I sort of believe him , too bad box or manuals are gone. I think this one might have come as part of a multimedia kit, with speakers & cd-rom

Wasn't there a DSP board that plugged into "P3" on the top of this card?

Nothing but I will try to find out.

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Reply 6357 of 54979, by Callahan

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kithylin wrote:
If I remember right, it's from ALR Servers. As in, they make their own power supplies to go with it, with their own non-standard […]
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Callahan wrote:
Hi folks! I just bought this ALR server mobo. Dual Pentium II, i442fx, 4xEdo Dimm, aic-7880scsi, 3xEISA, 4xPCI. I want to power […]
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Hi folks!
I just bought this ALR server mobo. Dual Pentium II, i442fx, 4xEdo Dimm, aic-7880scsi, 3xEISA, 4xPCI.
I want to power up this Motherboard but is using 20pin & 6pin psu socket, so, anyone know from what server it is?
Click for full res.
Thanks!
qzuCUX.jpg
GH1yh7.jpg

If I remember right, it's from ALR Servers. As in, they make their own power supplies to go with it, with their own non-standard ALR-Only power supplies for those models, kind of similar to their Pentium-Pro systems too.

I might be wrong though.. but the last time I looked up An ALR pentium-pro board that was the case for that one, so possibly the same for your model there.

I think you're also going to need to populate the empty VRM socket, and use ecc-registered server ram. Possibly.. might be wrong there too but it's a server system, so.. it's likely.

I found it!
Before gateway aquired ALR it was Revolution 2x,after that this server has become an Gateway ALR 7000:
http://panam.gateway.com/s/Manuals/Servers/8503427.pdf
http://panam.gateway.com/s/Manuals/Servers/8503428.pdf

Cpq: ap550(2x1G/256k), sp750(2x900/2MB), 5100(2xpII300)
TD-30 2xP166 NT 3.51
HP Vectra XU 6/200 2x PIIOD 512MB FPM Banshee
Super S2DG2@550/2MB SCSI 15k V5 5500
P4T533-C P4 3,06 Ti4600
Dell T700r @P3-700 V3 3500
PR440FX-2x PIIOD Voodoo 4500 PCI r320 CT1920

Reply 6358 of 54979, by meljor

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Scored another diamond monster 3d II 12mb today. Did have some damage on the legs of one chip. A little needle and a lot of patience later the legs were no longer touching each other and it works great.

Now i've got 3 matched sli setups from 3 different brands 🤣

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Reply 6359 of 54979, by xenu

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sliderider wrote:

Wow, an Alliance card, two Trident cards and a SiS 6326. You're a real glutton for punishment.

Well, currently I'm hunting for Cirrus Logic Laguna 3D, I really have thing about sucky 3D cards 😁