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Reply 40880 of 41348, by SVD

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I bought this RAM card for my IBM 5162, since this can actually fit in the case... Anyone know what board it is? Would be nice with jumper settings 😁

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Reply 40881 of 41348, by MMaximus

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Bancho wrote on 2021-10-25, 11:32:
I have this case. I think its Manufactured by Chieftec […]
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imi wrote on 2021-10-24, 15:59:

and the cutest little beige mini tower, mATX with sideways PSU and very short
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I have this case. I think its Manufactured by Chieftec

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I have the mid-tower version of this case - it is indeed made by Chieftec and is of reasonably good quality

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Reply 40882 of 41348, by Anders-

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MMaximus wrote on 2021-10-25, 20:25:
Bancho wrote on 2021-10-25, 11:32:
I have this case. I think its Manufactured by Chieftec […]
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imi wrote on 2021-10-24, 15:59:

and the cutest little beige mini tower, mATX with sideways PSU and very short
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I have this case. I think its Manufactured by Chieftec

8QnC3Pkl.jpg

I have the mid-tower version of this case - it is indeed made by Chieftec and is of reasonably good quality

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Funny to see the middle light labeled "mode" and not turbo. Wonder what the intention was...

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Reply 40883 of 41348, by HanJammer

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SVD wrote on 2021-10-25, 19:23:

I bought this RAM card for my IBM 5162, since this can actually fit in the case... Anyone know what board it is? Would be nice with jumper settings 😁

Nice card, but with just 2 or 3 jumpers I don't think the settings sheet is really necessary 😁
My guess is it will be fairly similar to this one: https://www.arvutimuuseum.ee/th99/i/A-B/55355.htm
Perhaps it's some OEM version of BOCARAM made by Boca Research - certainly looks like their cards (eg. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintag … mory-1857704560 or https://wiki.preterhuman.net/BOCARAM/AT ) and has their chip but doesn't have BOCARAM logo. Doesn't it have FCC ID printed somewhere? On the back maybe?

PS: J1 and J2 should be the same and J3 sets how much memory is installed.

PPS: Some files for BOCARAM cards: http://ps-2.kev009.com/bocaresearch/Drivers&S … d/File_area_20/ - even if it's not exactly any of their retail models it may still work as it uses the same chip as their BOCARAM AT PLUS...

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Reply 40885 of 41348, by BitWrangler

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So now you probably need 4x64kB RAM and a floppy drive lever.

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Reply 40886 of 41348, by SVD

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HanJammer wrote on 2021-10-25, 22:13:
Nice card, but with just 2 or 3 jumpers I don't think the settings sheet is really necessary :D My guess is it will be fairly si […]
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SVD wrote on 2021-10-25, 19:23:

I bought this RAM card for my IBM 5162, since this can actually fit in the case... Anyone know what board it is? Would be nice with jumper settings 😁

Nice card, but with just 2 or 3 jumpers I don't think the settings sheet is really necessary 😁
My guess is it will be fairly similar to this one: https://www.arvutimuuseum.ee/th99/i/A-B/55355.htm
Perhaps it's some OEM version of BOCARAM made by Boca Research - certainly looks like their cards (eg. https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintag … mory-1857704560 or https://wiki.preterhuman.net/BOCARAM/AT ) and has their chip but doesn't have BOCARAM logo. Doesn't it have FCC ID printed somewhere? On the back maybe?

PS: J1 and J2 should be the same and J3 sets how much memory is installed.

PPS: Some files for BOCARAM cards: http://ps-2.kev009.com/bocaresearch/Drivers&S … d/File_area_20/ - even if it's not exactly any of their retail models it may still work as it uses the same chip as their BOCARAM AT PLUS...

Sure its not the end of the world, but I hate playing around with jumpers that i dont know what does. x)
None of those card are the same tough, maybe related of course. For the back I have to wait until I get the card unfortunatly. I hope there is an ID on the back. Along with the jumper settings :p

BTW on an unrelated note. This brute is on its way from Germany. It got the Q-complex, 66mhz original pentium (socket 4). I also have a Y-complex on the way from GB so it will be interesting to see if i can get it up and running 😁

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Reply 40887 of 41348, by MMaximus

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Anders- wrote on 2021-10-25, 21:05:
MMaximus wrote on 2021-10-25, 20:25:
Bancho wrote on 2021-10-25, 11:32:
I have this case. I think its Manufactured by Chieftec […]
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I have this case. I think its Manufactured by Chieftec

8QnC3Pkl.jpg

I have the mid-tower version of this case - it is indeed made by Chieftec and is of reasonably good quality

20211025_212112.jpg

Funny to see the middle light labeled "mode" and not turbo. Wonder what the intention was...

Yeah I actually don't remember if the "mode" LED is actually hard-wired to the "Power ON" LED or if it has its own separate header. In this case it would only work with motherboards that have a soft turbo function (i.e. CTRL ALT +) because the case itself lacks a turbo button. But it doesn't make much sense as this is a case from 1996-1997 and at the time the motherboards had pretty much done away with turbo functionality...

Reply 40888 of 41348, by appiah4

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I got an Athlon II X4 640 in the mail today but I'm not sure whether it qualifies as retro or modern.. Most likely neither 😀

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Reply 40889 of 41348, by Nexxen

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appiah4 wrote on 2021-10-26, 19:54:

I got an Athlon II X4 640 in the mail today but I'm not sure whether it qualifies as retro or modern.. Most likely neither 😀

Probably "obsolete" or "EOL".

You can still do almost anything, maybe not 1080 on YT.
This is what makes this kind of cpu difficult to define as retro.


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Reply 40890 of 41348, by luckybob

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SVD wrote on 2021-10-26, 17:26:

BTW on an unrelated note. This brute is on its way from Germany. It got the Q-complex, 66mhz original pentium (socket 4). I also have a Y-complex on the way from GB so it will be interesting to see if i can get it up and running 😁

You buried the lead!

I watched that big beautiful bastard sell. And I was curious who bought that p90 complex. Glad it was someone here. If you have any questions, dont hesitate to ask!

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Reply 40891 of 41348, by brostenen

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Some goodies for my Amiga 1200. Paid but not recieved....

- Terrible Fire TF-1230 64mb edition.
- Angled CF-IDE adaptor with an extra 40pin header.
- 16gb Sandisk Ultra CF card.
- PCMCIA to SD-Card adaptor for file transfer.

Missing to buy: New case, scandoubler and a set of newer kickstart rom's.

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Reply 40892 of 41348, by Joakim

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brostenen wrote on 2021-10-26, 20:18:
Some goodies for my Amiga 1200. Paid but not recieved.... […]
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Some goodies for my Amiga 1200. Paid but not recieved....

- Terrible Fire TF-1230 64mb edition.
- Angled CF-IDE adaptor with an extra 40pin header.
- 16gb Sandisk Ultra CF card.
- PCMCIA to SD-Card adaptor for file transfer.

Missing to buy: New case, scandoubler and a set of newer kickstart rom's.

Except for coolnes factor, what's is the point of upgrading an a1200 with regard to ram and CPU? (Serious question, not a troll.) I get it that you'd upgrade the a500 to run games that are not originally compatible, but the a1200? Does it the games run better multi tasking? Pr0n? 😁

Reply 40893 of 41348, by brostenen

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Joakim wrote on 2021-10-26, 20:52:
brostenen wrote on 2021-10-26, 20:18:
Some goodies for my Amiga 1200. Paid but not recieved.... […]
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Some goodies for my Amiga 1200. Paid but not recieved....

- Terrible Fire TF-1230 64mb edition.
- Angled CF-IDE adaptor with an extra 40pin header.
- 16gb Sandisk Ultra CF card.
- PCMCIA to SD-Card adaptor for file transfer.

Missing to buy: New case, scandoubler and a set of newer kickstart rom's.

Except for coolnes factor, what's is the point of upgrading an a1200 with regard to ram and CPU? (Serious question, not a troll.) I get it that you'd upgrade the a500 to run games that are not originally compatible, but the a1200? Does it the games run better multi tasking? Pr0n? 😁

There are tons of advantages. The system it self runs way more snappy with an 030 at 50mhz, and although 64mb Ram is kind of overkill, it is cheaper to get a brand new TF-1230 with 64mb than an old 1990's with 16mb of ram. I believe we are talking about 1/3 the price of an old vintage accelerator and I get 4 times more ram. Sure I can do with only 8mb ram upgrade, however I want to be able to run Mac emulator and other stuff instead of just gaming. Gaming is kind of meh' to use it for. It is productivity and office stuff that entrigues me more on the Amiga.

For games I have my Amiga500's and my Amiga600. I only have one or two AGA games that I want to play, else it is all OCS and ECS games that interrests me.

Regarding the price of accelerators for the Amiga1200. Then you can go for one of the old original ones. they go for around 540 euro to 900 euro, and come with anywere from 8 to 32mb Ram. The TF-1230 can be bought for 170 Euro (64mb) or 190 Euro (128mb). In other words. If you just want more ram and more umpfhhh in the machine, then it is insane to buy a Blizzard at 900 Euro even if it comes with 128mb of Ram. Also. An 030 is the sweetspot regarding compatibility, if I want to run WHD-Loader.

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I forgot to mention, that with an accelerator you will not have to deal with the PCMCIA bug. If you just stick an 8mb upgrade in the trapdoor, you will have to disable memory over 4mb or something like that, in order to be able to use any PCMCIA devices at all. And the main reason for me to buy an 030 accelerator is more personal. Back in 2006 I sold my former Amiga1200. It had an GVP Turbojaws-II accelerator. That was an 030-50 as well. And to this day I bitterly regret selling it. But I needed the money for moving to a new home across the country. So I am actually in the process of recreating a somewhat similair setup with my new 1200. The difference is, that now I will aim at making a way more awesomme setup this time.

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Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 40894 of 41348, by SVD

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luckybob wrote on 2021-10-26, 20:18:
SVD wrote on 2021-10-26, 17:26:

BTW on an unrelated note. This brute is on its way from Germany. It got the Q-complex, 66mhz original pentium (socket 4). I also have a Y-complex on the way from GB so it will be interesting to see if i can get it up and running 😁

You buried the lead!

I watched that big beautiful bastard sell. And I was curious who bought that p90 complex. Glad it was someone here. If you have any questions, dont hesitate to ask!

Yeah there are a bit to many projects going on x)

I might need to ask some questions so thanks for that 😀 I did not get the p90 complex from ebay tough, I got it from mr. Clarke.

If I am not mistaken this is pretty much the top (and the) end of the IBM PS2 line, so I am quite happy with finally getting a model 95 😁

Reply 40895 of 41348, by appiah4

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Joakim wrote on 2021-10-26, 20:52:
brostenen wrote on 2021-10-26, 20:18:
Some goodies for my Amiga 1200. Paid but not recieved.... […]
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Some goodies for my Amiga 1200. Paid but not recieved....

- Terrible Fire TF-1230 64mb edition.
- Angled CF-IDE adaptor with an extra 40pin header.
- 16gb Sandisk Ultra CF card.
- PCMCIA to SD-Card adaptor for file transfer.

Missing to buy: New case, scandoubler and a set of newer kickstart rom's.

Except for coolnes factor, what's is the point of upgrading an a1200 with regard to ram and CPU? (Serious question, not a troll.) I get it that you'd upgrade the a500 to run games that are not originally compatible, but the a1200? Does it the games run better multi tasking? Pr0n? 😁

An accelerator can turn the A1200 into a productivity powerhouse moreso than the A500 thanks to the AGA chipset. It all depends on what you want to do with it, if you want to play games a simple 512K RAM expansion on an A500 will cover you for 99% of the library anyway. I for example use my A500 to browse online BBSes and hope to set up one on my own Amiga some day.

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Reply 40896 of 41348, by brostenen

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appiah4 wrote on 2021-10-26, 22:06:

It all depends on what you want to do with it, if you want to play games a simple 512K RAM expansion on an A500 will cover you for 99% of the library anyway.

Yup.... That can not be more true. 1 x A500 + 512k + Kick 1.3 + RGBtoHDMI + Gotek = Tons of fun.
The reason is that the A500 was the defacto Amiga gaming machine, before PC got more juice around 1991.
And the 1200 came out around 1992, and did not even come close to top-tear PC's at that time.

appiah4 wrote on 2021-10-26, 22:06:

An accelerator can turn the A1200 into a productivity powerhouse

I have a bizarre love for word processors and DTP programs, on machines that are not Dos or Windows based. (Especially Wordperfect)

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Reply 40897 of 41348, by pixelatedscraps

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-Geforce 3 Ti 500 - this wasn't cheap but seems in very good condition and I was never able to afford one back in the day. I ended up with a Leadtek Winfast Ti 4400 as a birthday present a year later though, but my eye has now turned to sourcing either a 9700 Pro or a 9800XT as this card's potential upgrade partner.

-ATI Radeon X1950XTX (Cheap, but the seller says the fans spin up but no display, am living on the seat of my pants here getting ready to deshroud, get this thing naked and stick in the oven for a while)

-Sound Blaster Live! with Live Drive II (CT4760 + CT4780A) - cheap and cheerful and it seems to come with all the cables, it should fit nicely into either my Deschutes 97-98 build (minus Live Drive II) or into the 2001 dual Tualatin build I'm planning next.

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Reply 40898 of 41348, by BitWrangler

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pixelatedscraps wrote on 2021-10-27, 11:57:

-Geforce 3 Ti 500 - this wasn't cheap but seems in very good condition and I was never able to afford one back in the day.

You'll want 6 of them when you find out they can give worthwhile 3D performance to a 300Mhz CPU then go on scaling through to 2GHz or so.

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Reply 40899 of 41348, by subnet_zero

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pixelatedscraps wrote on 2021-10-27, 11:57:

-Geforce 3 Ti 500 - this wasn't cheap but seems in very good condition and I was never able to afford one back in the day. I ended up with a Leadtek Winfast Ti 4400 as a birthday present a year later though, but my eye has now turned to sourcing either a 9700 Pro or a 9800XT as this card's potential upgrade partner.

This Geforce 3 looks like the one I got: Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today
Then it is a Quadro DCC based on the Geforce 3. This thing should be overclockable to the Ti500 values. The noise it makes is questionable.
Phil has a god video about the very similar Geforce 2 based Quadro: https://youtu.be/ku9Cp3o13QI?t=874

Edit: I see some minor differences now. Hope it is the Ti500 you wanted.
Edit2: typos

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