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Reply 45940 of 46565, by thecheese2022

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Jed118 wrote on 2020-04-16, 20:05:
I will check that thread, thank you. Over lunch just now I stuck some other AWARD ROMS into the same slots (grade 8 me rules for […]
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Cyrix200+ wrote on 2020-04-16, 19:44:

I think you need a setup disk. Check out this topic: Suntac 80286 Mainboards and/or this one: SUNTAC 80286 Mainboard help

I will check that thread, thank you. Over lunch just now I stuck some other AWARD ROMS into the same slots (grade 8 me rules for saving those over 25 years ago!) and still nothing except the boot tag is a bit different. I have an idea though...

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could you extract bios dump using rom reader and upload?

Reply 45941 of 46565, by Thermalwrong

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote on 2022-08-13, 01:19:
These caps were full on vented. Like you don't need a PHD in electronics to know caps shouldn't look like THIS: […]
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Thermalwrong wrote on 2022-08-12, 23:20:
TheAbandonwareGuy wrote on 2022-08-12, 17:38:

On a side note, literally just received the G6600. "Works great" yeah I'm sure it did, with the 5 vented capacitors on the front. Obviously was never tested (or at least not within the last decade). Why are there so many dirtbag sellers in the retro computer parts space?

Eh, I don't think they're that bad, folks selling broken from use / worn out stuff is better than sellers that are selling things with crushed cores and loads of missing SMD components.

Really though I think even spotting 'bad fan' / 'bad caps' is a lot of ask of most sellers, but it's nice they're still selling these things rather than putting them out for scrap, especially where there's an obvious fault (that hopefully hasn't lead to worse faults...).

These caps were full on vented. Like you don't need a PHD in electronics to know caps shouldn't look like THIS:

If they were just bulging or hairline vented I would be more understanding but these have gone full blossom. Like this objectively a level of failure you should recognize if your selling electronics in any capacity.

This being said the seller did issue a full refund fairly quickly, so I'll probably still leave positive feedback. I might try to recap this piece of shit at some point, I need to order caps for a 6800GT I've had for years anyways (I hate ordering caps, such a pain)

This is electronics maintenance that I don't think most folks could / would want to do for the price points they're selling at. Eventually everything's gonna be broken like this if it's not cared for / repaired right and the numbers will keep dwindling, more so for cards that were run fairly hard in their lifetime e.g. GF6800 & Radeon 9700/9800. Just, personally I don't think an obvious fault like that is that bad. Much better that than a bad BGA RAM chip, although that could be a resulting fault from running with ruined capacitors.

For bad sellers though - I bought a job lot of old electronics with a mix of 70s PCBs, a PC Chips M919 and a Kapok 6200 laptop's mainboard, the seller only sent me the 70s PCBs, ergh, not so useful to me.

Reply 45942 of 46565, by Meatball

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I recently snapped up this Montego II Quadzilla (Vortex 2) still sealed. The wrap is pretty loose, though. I'm curious to see all that's inside, but I don't know if I'll open it.

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Reply 45943 of 46565, by Peter.Mengel

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Meatball wrote on 2022-08-14, 00:15:

I recently snapped up this Montego II Quadzilla (Vortex 2) still sealed. The wrap is pretty loose, though. I'm curious to see all that's inside, but I don't know if I'll open it.

What did you pay for it? Just Curious xD

Reply 45944 of 46565, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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Thermalwrong wrote on 2022-08-14, 00:06:
TheAbandonwareGuy wrote on 2022-08-13, 01:19:
These caps were full on vented. Like you don't need a PHD in electronics to know caps shouldn't look like THIS: […]
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Thermalwrong wrote on 2022-08-12, 23:20:

Eh, I don't think they're that bad, folks selling broken from use / worn out stuff is better than sellers that are selling things with crushed cores and loads of missing SMD components.

Really though I think even spotting 'bad fan' / 'bad caps' is a lot of ask of most sellers, but it's nice they're still selling these things rather than putting them out for scrap, especially where there's an obvious fault (that hopefully hasn't lead to worse faults...).

These caps were full on vented. Like you don't need a PHD in electronics to know caps shouldn't look like THIS:

If they were just bulging or hairline vented I would be more understanding but these have gone full blossom. Like this objectively a level of failure you should recognize if your selling electronics in any capacity.

This being said the seller did issue a full refund fairly quickly, so I'll probably still leave positive feedback. I might try to recap this piece of shit at some point, I need to order caps for a 6800GT I've had for years anyways (I hate ordering caps, such a pain)

This is electronics maintenance that I don't think most folks could / would want to do for the price points they're selling at. Eventually everything's gonna be broken like this if it's not cared for / repaired right and the numbers will keep dwindling, more so for cards that were run fairly hard in their lifetime e.g. GF6800 & Radeon 9700/9800. Just, personally I don't think an obvious fault like that is that bad. Much better that than a bad BGA RAM chip, although that could be a resulting fault from running with ruined capacitors.

For bad sellers though - I bought a job lot of old electronics with a mix of 70s PCBs, a PC Chips M919 and a Kapok 6200 laptop's mainboard, the seller only sent me the 70s PCBs, ergh, not so useful to me.

I don't expect them to repair it, I expect them to either not sell it or sell it at a price that reflects the fact it doesn't work (10-25 percent of working value) and clearly state it as such. Its scummy and lazy to sell stuff you haven't tested as working. There is zero excuse for it. I should go back to my old policy of always leaving negative feedback for sellers that do this.

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Reply 45945 of 46565, by Ydee

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Meatball wrote on 2022-08-14, 00:15:

I recently snapped up this Montego II Quadzilla (Vortex 2) still sealed. The wrap is pretty loose, though. I'm curious to see all that's inside, but I don't know if I'll open it.

Nice shot, but I don't think it's originally packaged - it seems to me that the box has chipped corners and has been wrapped in foil as an afterthought.

Reply 45946 of 46565, by Peter.Mengel

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Ydee wrote on 2022-08-14, 07:02:
Meatball wrote on 2022-08-14, 00:15:

I recently snapped up this Montego II Quadzilla (Vortex 2) still sealed. The wrap is pretty loose, though. I'm curious to see all that's inside, but I don't know if I'll open it.

Nice shot, but I don't think it's originally packaged - it seems to me that the box has chipped corners and has been wrapped in foil as an afterthought.

Nah thats not right, happens from time to time. I own a myself bought PS One and a PS2 original Sealed in a Box never Opened i bought them for the Idea
of Price Raising back then. They are both well Stored, but the PSX Package has chipped Corners and is somehow...well not as good looking as it should.
Overtime the Cardboard get "Structure Failures" of the Weight and the Point Keeping it up..It Takes Years to happen but it happens. You could
maybe avoid it by turning the package evry 1 or half year and flip it..but who does that?

Reply 45947 of 46565, by Meatball

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Ydee wrote on 2022-08-14, 07:02:
Meatball wrote on 2022-08-14, 00:15:

I recently snapped up this Montego II Quadzilla (Vortex 2) still sealed. The wrap is pretty loose, though. I'm curious to see all that's inside, but I don't know if I'll open it.

Nice shot, but I don't think it's originally packaged - it seems to me that the box has chipped corners and has been wrapped in foil as an afterthought.

It's understandable to suggest since I wasn't clear with my wording.

It's original, the wrap is loose because it has a T-split and rip at the entire seam of the bottom, and the entire length of the box has somewhere between minor and middling concave crush damage. It has the same consistency as the wrap of the box on the right and the corners are tight. It's because of the size of the split and the big chunk missing off of the front which makes me think I might as well open it. Then I can straighten out the box (crushed boxes bother me to no end...)

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Reply 45948 of 46565, by frankmonk

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Finally found a boxed rampat! Plus that might go into a Tandy 1000TL/2

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Reply 45949 of 46565, by Artex

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3DFX Voodoo Rush - Skywell Magic 3D Rush (Lite) 4MB PCI (1997)
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3DFX Voodoo2 - Gainward Dragon 3000 12MB PCI (Boxed) (1998)
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Asus SK8V-UAY Socket 940 Motherboard (VIA K8T800) (2003)
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Creative 3DO Blaster (Boxed) with CR-563-B IDE CD-ROM Drive
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Reply 45950 of 46565, by Peter.Mengel

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Artex wrote on 2022-08-14, 16:08:
3DFX Voodoo Rush - Skywell Magic 3D Rush (Lite) 4MB PCI (1997) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/I9b2V6.jpg htt […]
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3DFX Voodoo Rush - Skywell Magic 3D Rush (Lite) 4MB PCI (1997)
I9b2V6.jpg
kcKnEr.jpg
VrlwRv.jpg

3DFX Voodoo2 - Gainward Dragon 3000 12MB PCI (Boxed) (1998)
SHCcx7.jpg
KV4Jtt.jpg
Rj8F7w.jpg

Asus SK8V-UAY Socket 940 Motherboard (VIA K8T800) (2003)
ftdFLU.jpg
6XCa9K.jpg

Creative 3DO Blaster (Boxed) with CR-563-B IDE CD-ROM Drive
zooHfr.jpg
5ZZxES.jpg
Qe59u0.jpg
q8eAWn.jpg
a8utCC.jpg
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WOW the 3DO Blaster is rly nice, but the Dragoon 3000 is weird 8 or 12 MB....so its a luck what you get?

Reply 45952 of 46565, by devius

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Artex wrote on 2022-08-14, 16:08:

Asus SK8V-UAY Socket 940 Motherboard (VIA K8T800) (2003)

It's a bit weird seeing a plain unboxed motherboard is in the middle of an impressive post like that 😅 I can't really see what's so special about it, so can someone enlighten me?

Reply 45953 of 46565, by imi

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Artex wrote on 2022-08-14, 16:08:

3DFX Voodoo2 - Gainward Dragon 3000 12MB PCI (Boxed) (1998)

interesting, didn't the gainward 3000 cards usually have green heatsinks and a different PCB layout?

Reply 45954 of 46565, by Thandor

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imi wrote on 2022-08-14, 16:46:
Artex wrote on 2022-08-14, 16:08:

3DFX Voodoo2 - Gainward Dragon 3000 12MB PCI (Boxed) (1998)

interesting, didn't the gainward 3000 cards usually have green heatsinks and a different PCB layout?

Mine has a different lay-out but no heatsinks (or someone removed them…). The part number is ICUVGA-GW803N whereas Artex’ card doesn’t have the N-suffix. So perhaps the Gainward card was available with both PCB designs.

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Reply 45955 of 46565, by liqmat

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Artex wrote on 2022-08-14, 16:08:
3DFX Voodoo Rush - Skywell Magic 3D Rush (Lite) 4MB PCI (1997) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/I9b2V6.jpg htt […]
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3DFX Voodoo Rush - Skywell Magic 3D Rush (Lite) 4MB PCI (1997)
I9b2V6.jpg
kcKnEr.jpg
VrlwRv.jpg

3DFX Voodoo2 - Gainward Dragon 3000 12MB PCI (Boxed) (1998)
SHCcx7.jpg
KV4Jtt.jpg
Rj8F7w.jpg

Asus SK8V-UAY Socket 940 Motherboard (VIA K8T800) (2003)
ftdFLU.jpg
6XCa9K.jpg

Creative 3DO Blaster (Boxed) with CR-563-B IDE CD-ROM Drive
zooHfr.jpg
5ZZxES.jpg
Qe59u0.jpg
q8eAWn.jpg
a8utCC.jpg
dkJB6f.jpg

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Reply 45956 of 46565, by PD2JK

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devius wrote on 2022-08-14, 16:33:
Artex wrote on 2022-08-14, 16:08:

Asus SK8V-UAY Socket 940 Motherboard (VIA K8T800) (2003)

It's a bit weird seeing a plain unboxed motherboard is in the middle of an impressive post like that 😅 I can't really see what's so special about it, so can someone enlighten me?

Socket 940 based consumer/prosumer boards are a bit rare. You can use it with an Opteron and the FX-51.

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Reply 45957 of 46565, by Artex

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PD2JK wrote on 2022-08-14, 17:01:

Socket 940 based consumer/prosumer boards are a bit rare. You can use it with an Opteron and the FX-51.

Yup! That's the plan - It's "Hammer Time" with the FX-51 I'm going to use here.

Peter.Mengel wrote on 2022-08-14, 16:16:

..but the Dragoon 3000 is weird 8 or 12 MB....so its a luck what you get?

This one is the 12MB variant.

Bancho wrote on 2022-08-14, 16:21:

When Artrex comes out with that Bling! Nice purchases mate!

Thank you!

liqmat wrote on 2022-08-14, 17:00:

Remember man, your mission is to destroy all alien invaders in Egypt. Your weekend is full.

Hahah - so classic. Cheers Liqmat!

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Reply 45958 of 46565, by TheMobRules

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Artex wrote on 2022-08-14, 16:08:

Creative 3DO Blaster (Boxed) with CR-563-B IDE CD-ROM Drive

Always nice to see a 3DO Blaster, I really like the whole concept of "run actual console hardware in your PC". Too bad it never really took off.

I wonder how it would have performed commercially if they bundled at least one really good game in the package. SSF2T for the 3DO is an amazing port, and at the time it would have been a "killer app" to justify the high price of the product.

Reply 45959 of 46565, by Radical Vision

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Artex wrote on 2022-08-14, 16:08:
3DFX Voodoo Rush - Skywell Magic 3D Rush (Lite) 4MB PCI (1997) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/924/I9b2V6.jpg htt […]
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3DFX Voodoo Rush - Skywell Magic 3D Rush (Lite) 4MB PCI (1997)
I9b2V6.jpg
kcKnEr.jpg
VrlwRv.jpg

3DFX Voodoo2 - Gainward Dragon 3000 12MB PCI (Boxed) (1998)
SHCcx7.jpg
KV4Jtt.jpg
Rj8F7w.jpg

Asus SK8V-UAY Socket 940 Motherboard (VIA K8T800) (2003)
ftdFLU.jpg
6XCa9K.jpg

Creative 3DO Blaster (Boxed) with CR-563-B IDE CD-ROM Drive
zooHfr.jpg
5ZZxES.jpg
Qe59u0.jpg
q8eAWn.jpg
a8utCC.jpg
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Lol the Creative 3DO Blaster, that shit is expensive AF... Last time i saw one with box did cost up to 1000$.... But guess u got urs for this 600$ price..

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I got the same Voodoo Rush some months ago, looks very nice (did think it may have more memory, but seems nah), the oriignal box is for sure ugly, at least the card itself looks very nice..
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