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Reply 48460 of 52983, by ediflorianUS

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Babasha wrote on 2023-03-13, 08:14:

Turtle Beach (Voyetra) Montego II - Aureal Vortex 2 A3D 2.0

I almost got one of those yesterday at local flea market, darn.... I was just : I don't need a nother PCI audio card. I have many creative one's... so I "move'd along now".... (sw.reference).

Bitwrangler , what kind of PC Chips board? 950 sk478? - mine is driving me up the wazooo , keeps beeping to me, and I don't know what to do.

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ATI Graphics Xpression (Mach64 DRAM). Need to find a donor card with 4bit DRAM chips to fil the bus before testing.

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I am unable to locate my Mach64 , nice card man. mine is lost. RIP.

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Reply 48461 of 52983, by Vynix

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Just nabbed a 12x SCSI CD-ROM drive for my "7500 Fauxsammer" project (basically, a Power Mac 7500 with a G3 in it), I would've preferred to find one of the 24x models but none turned up so far ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Oh and while I was checking the 7500/G3 up to see if it still worked, I went to format a zip disk, and well, this happened:

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This machine is a weird beast sometimes... Now I just need to find a proper monitor (so I can put back my M1212 monitor with the LC II it came with) and a zip drive bezel for it and maybe some other stuff... And maybe it could finally be called complete.

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Reply 48462 of 52983, by RandomStranger

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I P4 PC in a decent looking case.

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It supposed to work, I don't care much if it does. I only bought it because of the case. It's only a little bigger than my W98BOX, which is very small, allows full-height expansion cards, has room for 2×2.5" + 2×3.5" + 1×5.25" drives. A little disappointing, I expected 4×3.5" since I got the case to build a NAS into it.

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What else I get out of it, a Mercury P4VM800M board with a 2.8GHz Pentium 4, I think 512MB RAM, an 80GB IDE HDD, a Samsung IDE optical drive and a very interesting SFX PSU. I don't know anything about the brand, it has no SATA power or PCI-e power connector, but has 4+4 pin CPU power connector, it also has decent specs at least on paper.

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Otherwise the PC was shipped with a lot of free dust and dead insects inside.

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Reply 48463 of 52983, by BitWrangler

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Case is kinda awesome, like you've got the front of a spaceship crashing through your wall or something. Looks kinda like it was for HTPC market.

The PSU, I'd have to judge it on weight. The wire thickness doesn't look too bad though. If it was a real light one it would go in the "PSUs to use if other mistrusted hardware is in danger of blowing them up" or PSUs for stealing spare connectors off, pile, if it had some reasonable weight, okay looking sinks and caps and tested good, it would get rated at 300W in my head and passed for general unexciting machines. The 400 headline watts and partnumber with 350 in it isn't very encouraging though.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 48464 of 52983, by BitWrangler

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ediflorianUS wrote on 2023-03-13, 11:20:

Bitwrangler , what kind of PC Chips board? 950 sk478? - mine is driving me up the wazooo , keeps beeping to me, and I don't know what to do.

Mine would be a PIII/Celeron one, don't know much about P4 PCChips, you might find more about the ECS equivalent. Beeping but won't post is commonly mem or video errors, beeping while it's running is probably hardware monitoring alarms going off for temperature or low/high voltage

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 48465 of 52983, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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RandomStranger wrote on 2023-03-13, 18:24:
I P4 PC in a decent looking case. […]
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I P4 PC in a decent looking case.

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It supposed to work, I don't care much if it does. I only bought it because of the case. It's only a little bigger than my W98BOX, which is very small, allows full-height expansion cards, has room for 2×2.5" + 2×3.5" + 1×5.25" drives. A little disappointing, I expected 4×3.5" since I got the case to build a NAS into it.

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What else I get out of it, a Mercury P4VM800M board with a 2.8GHz Pentium 4, I think 512MB RAM, an 80GB IDE HDD, a Samsung IDE optical drive and a very interesting SFX PSU. I don't know anything about the brand, it has no SATA power or PCI-e power connector, but has 4+4 pin CPU power connector, it also has decent specs at least on paper.

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Otherwise the PC was shipped with a lot of free dust and dead insects inside.

Those cheap off brand fire supplies power supplies are garbage.

I had a Sharktech 500w PSU melt the cord plugged into it several years ago.

I only use name brand or OEM PSUs now. I'd rather use 20 year old vintage name brand than poorly designed, no safety features chinesium crap.

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Reply 48467 of 52983, by AlessandroB

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CrFr wrote on 2023-03-09, 20:10:
Bought this Compaq V50 CRT monitor. It is (was) in excellent shape. Of course the bezel had to crack during shipping. Other than […]
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Bought this Compaq V50 CRT monitor. It is (was) in excellent shape. Of course the bezel had to crack during shipping. Other than that, it looks almost like new. Managed to inject some glue in the crack and then push it back together. It looks fairly good now. Interior is very clean. I took it apart to clean it, but there was no need for it. Only the anode cable surroundings have some black fine dust, other areas are just spotless. It is made in 1997, but I think it will look nice paired with my 486 Prolinea 😀 Paid 35€ + shipping.

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How to close the gap between the two part glued? i’m looking for the same for my monitor

Reply 48468 of 52983, by PD2JK

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AlessandroB wrote on 2023-03-13, 20:03:
PD2JK wrote on 2023-03-10, 16:47:

Last purchase for this year. I promise. Really.
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What is???

It's a Roland RAP-10/AT. General MIDI card and non-SB compatible 16 bit sound, as vogoner dion_b told me.
I thought it was midi-only.

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Reply 48469 of 52983, by Shponglefan

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PD2JK wrote on 2023-03-13, 20:22:

It's a Roland RAP-10/AT. General MIDI card and non-SB compatible 16 bit sound, as vogoner dion_b told me.
I thought it was midi-only.

Yup, RAP-10 does digital audio in addition to MIDI.

I think some folks confuse it with the Roland SCC-1 which is MIDI only.

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Reply 48470 of 52983, by ODwilly

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote on 2023-03-13, 19:21:
Those cheap off brand fire supplies power supplies are garbage. […]
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RandomStranger wrote on 2023-03-13, 18:24:
I P4 PC in a decent looking case. […]
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I P4 PC in a decent looking case.

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It supposed to work, I don't care much if it does. I only bought it because of the case. It's only a little bigger than my W98BOX, which is very small, allows full-height expansion cards, has room for 2×2.5" + 2×3.5" + 1×5.25" drives. A little disappointing, I expected 4×3.5" since I got the case to build a NAS into it.

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What else I get out of it, a Mercury P4VM800M board with a 2.8GHz Pentium 4, I think 512MB RAM, an 80GB IDE HDD, a Samsung IDE optical drive and a very interesting SFX PSU. I don't know anything about the brand, it has no SATA power or PCI-e power connector, but has 4+4 pin CPU power connector, it also has decent specs at least on paper.

IMG_20230313_185730.jpg

Otherwise the PC was shipped with a lot of free dust and dead insects inside.

Those cheap off brand fire supplies power supplies are garbage.

I had a Sharktech 500w PSU melt the cord plugged into it several years ago.

I only use name brand or OEM PSUs now. I'd rather use 20 year old vintage name brand than poorly designed, no safety features chinesium crap.

I bought my step-brother a Apevia "Beast Power" 800watt for $20 a few years ago. Did the exact same thing as your Sharktech after two years of use ! It didn't kill any parts but the power cord was a sight to behold.

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Reply 48471 of 52983, by kixs

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Shponglefan wrote on 2023-03-13, 20:27:
PD2JK wrote on 2023-03-13, 20:22:

It's a Roland RAP-10/AT. General MIDI card and non-SB compatible 16 bit sound, as vogoner dion_b told me.
I thought it was midi-only.

Yup, RAP-10 does digital audio in addition to MIDI.

I think some folks confuse it with the Roland SCC-1 which is MIDI only.

But should mainly be used as GM only anyways 😉

Here is something new in my collection 😁

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Requests are also possible... /msg kixs

Reply 48472 of 52983, by ediflorianUS

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote on 2023-03-13, 19:21:
Those cheap off brand fire supplies power supplies are garbage. […]
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RandomStranger wrote on 2023-03-13, 18:24:
I P4 PC in a decent looking case. […]
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I P4 PC in a decent looking case.

IMG_20230313_185234.jpg

It supposed to work, I don't care much if it does. I only bought it because of the case. It's only a little bigger than my W98BOX, which is very small, allows full-height expansion cards, has room for 2×2.5" + 2×3.5" + 1×5.25" drives. A little disappointing, I expected 4×3.5" since I got the case to build a NAS into it.

IMG_20230313_185320.jpgIMG_20230313_185340.jpg

What else I get out of it, a Mercury P4VM800M board with a 2.8GHz Pentium 4, I think 512MB RAM, an 80GB IDE HDD, a Samsung IDE optical drive and a very interesting SFX PSU. I don't know anything about the brand, it has no SATA power or PCI-e power connector, but has 4+4 pin CPU power connector, it also has decent specs at least on paper.

IMG_20230313_185730.jpg

Otherwise the PC was shipped with a lot of free dust and dead insects inside.

Those cheap off brand fire supplies power supplies are garbage.

I had a Sharktech 500w PSU melt the cord plugged into it several years ago.

I only use name brand or OEM PSUs now. I'd rather use 20 year old vintage name brand than poorly designed, no safety features chinesium crap.

It's not from GPU/mem/cpu and it's a no-post. it's something on MB that I am unable to identify , I did recap the board , had a few caps missing , still no go. beeps only. BTW w8ting for new stash(lot) to arrive.

L.E. Spring Machintosh (lot/stash) is here....!!!!....

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Reply 48473 of 52983, by original_meusli

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AlessandroB wrote on 2023-03-13, 20:05:

How to close the gap between the two part glued? i’m looking for the same for my monitor

With modal putty or superglue and baking soda, not sure if it will fill a gap that big though.

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Reply 48474 of 52983, by CrFr

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AlessandroB wrote on 2023-03-13, 20:05:

How to close the gap between the two part glued? i’m looking for the same for my monitor

I wedged the crack more open with couple of toothpicks, then added glue, removed the picks, and pushed it tightly together with a woodworking clamp like this. Left it to cure for about 12 hours with the clamp.

The glue I used was Uhu Max Repair Power.

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Reply 48475 of 52983, by PD2JK

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It was cheap. So...

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Reply 48476 of 52983, by Kahenraz

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There are usually additional supporting capacitors and resistors that are missing in addition to these onboard sound chips. And there's no telling what the values are for any of these other components.

Reply 48477 of 52983, by Ozzuneoj

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Oh boy... what did I do to myself this time? Just a week or two ago we had a discussion here regarding DX10 era cards starting to become scarce and maybe having some niche use cases in the near future. Just a few days later, what do I find?

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Uhg... why why why. I could have just bought the two FX 5950 Ultras and been on my way, but no. These were sold as scrap, and I'm sure would have ended up as such eventually. There were even more 8800GT\9800GT cards and many more DX10-DX11 era cards without their coolers attached (and the seller said they were already thrown away), but the weight and size of this lot was getting absurd as it was, so I had to let them go.

They were apparently recently pulled from systems, so they have not been thrashing around in a scrap heap for a 15-20 years. I fully expected some damage, and there is some, but it isn't anywhere near as bad as I thought it'd be. I would say only 2-3 have enough SMD damage to be hopeless without a ton of work. Some have no SMD damage, others just have 1-3 components chipped off... I'm really hoping they're just EMI filters that aren't needed for operation. Until I start testing them out I have no idea if even a single one works, but I have a feeling that most of them will... even if they require a tiny bit of soldering work to get to that point. And I did specifically grab an extra 8800GTX that had been stripped of it's cooler, simply to use as a parts board for the others... or if it's in better shape, maybe just move one of the coolers onto it and use one of the others as a parts board.

What is in the lot:
3x MSI 8800GTX
2x EVGA 9800GTX+
4x PNY GTX 285
2x PNY 8800GTX
1x PNY 9800 GX2 (what a monster of a card! It's built like a solid metal brick. Absolutely no way these can get SMD damage!)
2x EVGA GTX 580
ASUS GTX 1050 2GB
2x Nvidia OEM Geforce FX 5950 Ultra (amazingly, at a quick glance they appear to be undamaged except for one bent cap on the top)
1x ATI All In Wonder 9700 Pro 128MB (looks like it got a bit hot at some point, not expecting it to work)
3x XFX 6800 XTreme 256MB (all three have bad caps but they are through-hole and shouldn't be hard to replace... one card is still in the plastic!)

Bare Cards:
1x PNY 8800GTX
1x Quadro FX 1000 (NV30GL; underclocked FX 5800)
1x Visiontek Geforce 3 (original)
1x All in Wonder 9700 Pro 128MB (completely different layout than the other, but marked the same)
1x ASUS 9980 Ultra FX 5950 Ultra (seems basically intact! Just needs cooling)

I probably won't go too crazy with this stuff right now, but I'll do some testing, mark which ones work, what repairs the others need and just tinker with them as time allows in the future. If the GTX 1050 works it will probably end up in some older Optiplex which I can resell locally as an entry level gaming PC and then pay off the entire cost of this lot... yay. 😁

Finally, I also got this in the mail today. Got it for a very fair price considering how scarce they are.
IBM\Tecmar ARPA PC sound card (~1989)

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I'm really looking forward to tinkering with it! I believe this is now the oldest PC sound card I own. Based on some discussions online I guess with the right drivers it will do something not entirely unlike Adlib and Sound Blaster emulation. Neat. 😁

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Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 48479 of 52983, by Ozzuneoj

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TrashPanda wrote on 2023-03-15, 04:50:

9800GX2 ..nice card if it works !

Yeah, I haven't used a GX2\X2 card of any kind since my brief stint with a 7950GX2 back in 2006, so I am interested to try it out. I was really happy to see that it is entirely encased in metal and plastic. If it isn't defective it should work fine. Most cards of this era are heavy and have all those fragile components exposed on the back. Not this thing! 😁

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.