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Reply 50960 of 52819, by zuldan

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I recently got into retro hardware and started looking at local waste centers. None of them allow you to purchase old computer hardware in case you injury yourself from an electrical fault and I live too far away from e-waste centers (who probably won't allow you to purchase computer hardware for the same reason).

However, my wife told me about a garage sale up the road. I'd never been to one before so I decided to go hoping I might see an old CRT monitor, keyboards and mouses.

I walked away with a Gravis Ultrasound for $5. It's in almost new condition, came with original box, all original manuals and disks. I'm still in shock. What do you guys think it's worth?

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Reply 50961 of 52819, by GigAHerZ

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PC@LIVE wrote on 2023-11-18, 21:11:

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You have a proper image open on your phone's screen, yet you choose to make a screenshot of your phone screen instead of using the real picture? Oh, God, WHY!?

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Reply 50962 of 52819, by rasz_pl

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zuldan wrote on 2023-11-19, 09:59:

I walked away with a Gravis Ultrasound for $5. It's in almost new condition, came with original box, all original manuals and disks. I'm still in shock. What do you guys think it's worth?

$5

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Reply 50964 of 52819, by PD2JK

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rasz_pl wrote on 2023-11-19, 10:43:
zuldan wrote on 2023-11-19, 09:59:

I walked away with a Gravis Ultrasound for $5. It's in almost new condition, came with original box, all original manuals and disks. I'm still in shock. What do you guys think it's worth?

$5

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Seriously, keep it! You'll regret selling it after some time. Believe me, been there done that...

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Reply 50965 of 52819, by zuldan

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PD2JK wrote on 2023-11-19, 11:43:

Seriously, keep it! You'll regret selling it after some time. Believe me, been there done that...

I have no intention of selling it. I’m a collector 😀

Now the question is do I store it on a shelf or use it in a retro machine ☺️

Reply 50966 of 52819, by devius

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PC@LIVE wrote on 2023-11-18, 21:11:

... an Intel 486DX2-66 CPU, I don't think there is a heatsink with fan, if I'm not mistaken the 486DX2 was required?

It's supposed to be required, but I had one without heatsink or fan running as my main PC for about 4 years. Just make sure it's the SL Enhanced version.

Reply 50967 of 52819, by PD2JK

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zuldan wrote on 2023-11-19, 11:54:
PD2JK wrote on 2023-11-19, 11:43:

Seriously, keep it! You'll regret selling it after some time. Believe me, been there done that...

I have no intention of selling it. I’m a collector 😀

Now the question is do I store it on a shelf or use it in a retro machine ☺️

Well, certain games just sound bet with a GUS. Jazz Jackrabbit, OMF, Epic Pinball... But it's up to you of course. I have a GUS MAX, I can easily hear the difference when compared to any SB.

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Reply 50968 of 52819, by PC@LIVE

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devius wrote on 2023-11-19, 11:56:
PC@LIVE wrote on 2023-11-18, 21:11:

... an Intel 486DX2-66 CPU, I don't think there is a heatsink with fan, if I'm not mistaken the 486DX2 was required?

It's supposed to be required, but I had one without heatsink or fan running as my main PC for about 4 years. Just make sure it's the SL Enhanced version.

It would be this one (see photo), I think it's a very normal Intel 486DX2-66, I already have some AMD and ST ones, and they all have a heatsink and fan, I also have a Cyrix and an Intel with a heatsink and no fan, even if there isn't one written, fan and heatsink (required), I think to use a heatsink from a P4 chipset, and add a fan, it will definitely be better, I just need to find a way to fix it, maybe I would use hot glue, around the edges.
A thousand thanks

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Reply 50969 of 52819, by Shponglefan

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PC@LIVE wrote on 2023-11-18, 21:11:

I don't think there is a heatsink with fan, if I'm not mistaken the 486DX2 was required?

At minimum I would use a heatsink. Depending on case airflow, a fan might be a good idea as well.

There was some inconsistency around this time when some PC builders would use heatsinks and some would not.

But adding extra cooling never hurts.

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Reply 50970 of 52819, by Shponglefan

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zuldan wrote on 2023-11-19, 11:54:

Now the question is do I store it on a shelf or use it in a retro machine ☺️

Box on the shelf, card in a retro machine. 😁

Since this is a PnP GUS, you will have to deal with some of the PnP compatibility challenges (e.g. patching GUS games) to get it to work with things.

At the same time, the added RAM on this card is great for software like Impulse Tracker and creation or playback of larger .IT files.

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Reply 50971 of 52819, by DerBaum

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zuldan wrote on 2023-11-19, 11:54:

Now the question is do I store it on a shelf or use it in a retro machine ☺️

Then you clearly need more stuff 😁

If the question is :
Will my family leave me if i also fill up the kitchen with retro gear like the rest of the property?

Than you are at the right point 😁

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Reply 50972 of 52819, by PC@LIVE

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Shponglefan wrote on 2023-11-19, 15:00:
At minimum I would use a heatsink. Depending on case airflow, a fan might be a good idea as well. […]
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PC@LIVE wrote on 2023-11-18, 21:11:

I don't think there is a heatsink with fan, if I'm not mistaken the 486DX2 was required?

At minimum I would use a heatsink. Depending on case airflow, a fan might be a good idea as well.

There was some inconsistency around this time when some PC builders would use heatsinks and some would not.

But adding extra cooling never hurts.

In fact, I was actually thinking of adding one, taken from a P4 (the one with the chipset), and putting a small 4 cm fan on it. To fix it I could attach it with hot glue, or I could build a support myself, in plastic with two holes, to mount. under the CPU.

AMD 286-16 287-10 4MB HD 45MB VGA 256KB
AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 50973 of 52819, by devius

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PC@LIVE wrote on 2023-11-19, 14:45:

It would be this one (see photo), I think it's a very normal Intel 486DX2-66

It is SL Enhanced: https://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SX/SX911.html. I also run these with at least a heatsink theses days, but if you just want to test it out there's no harm in not using one.

Reply 50974 of 52819, by PC@LIVE

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devius wrote on 2023-11-19, 16:12:
PC@LIVE wrote on 2023-11-19, 14:45:

It would be this one (see photo), I think it's a very normal Intel 486DX2-66

It is SL Enhanced: https://www.cpu-world.com/sspec/SX/SX911.html. I also run these with at least a heatsink theses days, but if you just want to test it out there's no harm in not using one.

Ok thanks so much for the info.
Well I have to try the card, I bought it as untested, I think it might work, and if so, I want to build a nice 486 PC, I already have other 486DX2-66 ones, but they are all VLB, this MB has an Opti Local Bus , unfortunately I don't have a VGA OLB, but I have a 1MB WD Paradise ISA, which I was told is at the level of an ET4000, then I would have to add another 4MB of RAM, to have 8 in total, and finally an ISA sound card .

AMD 286-16 287-10 4MB HD 45MB VGA 256KB
AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 50975 of 52819, by A001

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I accidentally found a Bigfoot while not even looking for one. Two euros

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Reply 50976 of 52819, by Meatball

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A nice color-keyed, period correct-ish set of matching equipment - Asus P4T & V6800 (GeForce 256 DDR)

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Reply 50977 of 52819, by supercordo

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Meatball wrote on 2023-11-19, 20:16:

A nice color-keyed, period correct-ish set of matching equipment - Asus P4T & V6800 (GeForce 256 DDR)

Very Nice!!! I also have an Asus P4T on the way.

Reply 50978 of 52819, by Meatball

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supercordo wrote on 2023-11-19, 20:49:
Meatball wrote on 2023-11-19, 20:16:

A nice color-keyed, period correct-ish set of matching equipment - Asus P4T & V6800 (GeForce 256 DDR)

Very Nice!!! I also have an Asus P4T on the way.

Thanks to your thread, I bought this one. I like this board and it may find a permanent home in a case. For now, it's waiting to be fired up again once I'm bumped out of #1 😁

Reply 50979 of 52819, by supercordo

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Meatball wrote on 2023-11-19, 21:01:
supercordo wrote on 2023-11-19, 20:49:
Meatball wrote on 2023-11-19, 20:16:

A nice color-keyed, period correct-ish set of matching equipment - Asus P4T & V6800 (GeForce 256 DDR)

Very Nice!!! I also have an Asus P4T on the way.

Thanks to your thread, I bought this one. I like this board and it may find a permanent home in a case. For now, it's waiting to be fired up again once I'm bumped out of #1 😁

It really is a nice board. I think socket 423 deserves more retro love.