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Reply 51780 of 52813, by devius

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BitWrangler wrote on 2024-02-13, 04:26:

MSI did a ti200 128MB too that I know of, got one, turns out 128MB wasn't really worth it until 2 gens later.

Also Chaintech A-G321.

Reply 51781 of 52813, by acl

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BitWrangler wrote on 2024-02-13, 04:26:

MSI did a ti200 128MB too that I know of, got one, turns out 128MB wasn't really worth it until 2 gens later.

I have a 256MB version of Matrox Parhelia. That's also an unusual amount for 2002

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Reply 51782 of 52813, by Nexxen

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acl wrote on 2024-02-13, 13:40:
BitWrangler wrote on 2024-02-13, 04:26:

MSI did a ti200 128MB too that I know of, got one, turns out 128MB wasn't really worth it until 2 gens later.

I have a 256MB version of Matrox Parhelia. That's also an unusual amount for 2002

Amount in line wih your avatar... for a clean and sharp image!

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Reply 51783 of 52813, by acl

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Nexxen wrote on 2024-02-13, 16:24:
acl wrote on 2024-02-13, 13:40:
BitWrangler wrote on 2024-02-13, 04:26:

MSI did a ti200 128MB too that I know of, got one, turns out 128MB wasn't really worth it until 2 gens later.

I have a 256MB version of Matrox Parhelia. That's also an unusual amount for 2002

Amount in line wih your avatar... for a clean and sharp image!

Yes, even on three monitors !

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Some people (not here) even asked me if i was bald... well not really. I should have picked John Romero as an avatar if it was all about real life hair style.

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Reply 51784 of 52813, by PC@LIVE

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Purchased a batch of RAM today, of various capacities and speeds, I plan to use some of them on the 775 or AM2 PCs, I am currently working on an ABIT IP35 with E4600 @ 2400, a PC that I will use mainly for Office, it has 6GB of RAM that I would like to bring to 8 GB, using two of the 2 GB memories each, and removing the odd one.

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Reply 51785 of 52813, by Socket3

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Got a couple of 21" CRT monitors yeasterday. One IBM P260 and one Dell 1230. That makes 3 21" CRT displays I've managed to get my hands on so far.

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Both monitors are pretty scuffed up on the sides, but the front bezels, buttons and glass is OK, and both work perfectly. Nice bright picture and good geometry. The IBM P260 completes my Thinkcenter setup quite nicely. I remember I used to have one of these 21" IBM's back in 2005, along with a beige 21" Eizo.

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One interesting thing about the IBM is that it has a DVI connector - I've tried hooking it up to my daily driver via a DVI to HDMI adapter, but it didn't work. I really wish it did tough, since there's lots of boomer shooters and modern ports of older games that would have looked stellar on the P260. I guess it either has a very early implementation of DVI, or it's just not playing nice with my video card.

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Reply 51786 of 52813, by Vynix

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The P260's DVI port is a bit odd, it's not a fully wired DVI-D port but rather, a DVI-A port.

As far as I know only NEC made CRT monitors with DVI-D ports, but those aren't very common.

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Reply 51787 of 52813, by PcBytes

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My recent retro HDD haul for yesterday:

- Seagate Medalist 4321 - working, neat shape! One of Seagate's better drives IMO.
- Quantum Fireball Plus AS 20GB - also working and as a bonus, has 98SE installed already, and its contents are a time capsule.
- Quantum Fireball 630AT 630MB - might be bad as only 310MB managed to get tested. I might have a chance fixing it with either Spinrite or DiskGenius.
- Fujitsu MPE3102AT - dead apparently. Produces garbled text during POST and won't seek properly.
- Fujitsu MPB3021AT - works
- 2x Quantum Bigfoot CY 2160AT - one is dead with unreadable sectors, the other is absolutely fine (managed to partition and format just fine)

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Reply 51788 of 52813, by pete8475

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Socket3 wrote on 2024-02-13, 22:52:

One interesting thing about the IBM is that it has a DVI connector - I've tried hooking it up to my daily driver via a DVI to HDMI adapter, but it didn't work. I really wish it did tough, since there's lots of boomer shooters and modern ports of older games that would have looked stellar on the P260. I guess it either has a very early implementation of DVI, or it's just not playing nice with my video card.

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I had the beige version of that IBM monitor many years ago!

Mine came with a cable that was DVI on one end and VGA on the other, with that conncted to a PC and another PC on the other VGA port you could switch between inputs on the monitor.

Reply 51789 of 52813, by Minutemanqvs

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These last weeks I bought all kinds of adapters and readers just because I'm always frustrated when I don't have the right thing, and now is a time when they are cheap and still available. That is CF > IDE, SATA > IDE, USB-A to USB-C, USB Floppy, USB CF/SD reader, Molex to SATA power etc etc...I remember 20 years ago when some adapters were everywhere and now very hard to find. So I will not make the same error twice.

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Reply 51790 of 52813, by weedeewee

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Minutemanqvs wrote on 2024-02-14, 10:06:

These last weeks I bought all kinds of adapters and readers just because I'm always frustrated when I don't have the right thing, and now is a time when they are cheap and still available. That is CF > IDE, SATA > IDE, USB-A to USB-C, USB Floppy, USB CF/SD reader, Molex to SATA power etc etc...I remember 20 years ago when some adapters were everywhere and now very hard to find. So I will not make the same error twice.

I hope you got an USB floppy which can do both 720K & 1M4 😀

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Reply 51792 of 52813, by A001

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PcBytes wrote on 2024-02-14, 00:03:

My recent retro HDD haul for yesterday:

- Seagate Medalist 4321 - working, neat shape! One of Seagate's better drives IMO.

I find this model is an incredibly quiet drive for its time period. I was testing several old drives yesterday and this one was among them.

Reply 51793 of 52813, by PC@LIVE

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Purchased these two motherboards, the first a Soyo VX with 256 KB of cache, it is a board with an Intel chipset, and could it perhaps support dual voltage CPUs?
The other is an ASUS Slot1, honestly I didn't understand what it was, I was thinking of the usual cheap card, and the missing AGP slot was a problem for me, then by chance I managed to understand that it wasn't that bad, the chipset should be a BX , and I believe the model is P2B98-XV, in view of all this, I have re-evaluated it and I hope to have it in my hands soon.

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AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 51794 of 52813, by H3nrik V!

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pete8475 wrote on 2024-02-14, 00:40:
Socket3 wrote on 2024-02-13, 22:52:

One interesting thing about the IBM is that it has a DVI connector - I've tried hooking it up to my daily driver via a DVI to HDMI adapter, but it didn't work. I really wish it did tough, since there's lots of boomer shooters and modern ports of older games that would have looked stellar on the P260. I guess it either has a very early implementation of DVI, or it's just not playing nice with my video card.

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I had the beige version of that IBM monitor many years ago!

Mine came with a cable that was DVI on one end and VGA on the other, with that conncted to a PC and another PC on the other VGA port you could switch between inputs on the monitor.

That's so perfect for a setup with Voodoo(2), using one input for a good 2D VGA card (Matrox <3) and one input for the Voodoo, thus eliminating the need for that blur-inducing pass-through cable 😁

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Reply 51795 of 52813, by kaposzta

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I've received two package today with some interesting video/sound cards.

Package 1 ($30):
- Creative Labs PhoneBlaster (CT3120) --> unfortunately, the upper right corner is broken off, sound card part might still be working though
- Cirrus Logic Laguna 3D (Chaintech) --> perfect condition, tested and working

Package 2 ($90): everything is untested and extremely dirty 😀
- a weird, unidentified 8 bit ISA video card from 1987 with DB9 connector, no RCA connector, two crystals, no Motorola 6845 chip but with Intel A82786 (SX117) graphic co-processor (see picture)
- Trident TVGA9000B
- Matrox G100
- ELSA Winner 1000/T2D (S3 Trio64V2/DX) --> nice addition to my ELSA collection
- Diamond Viper V550
- Asus V3000ZX --> finally I have a Riva 128ZX! 😀
- Spea V7-Mirage P-64 (S3 Vision864) PCI --> already had the VLB version
- Ati Mach64 GX --> my first Mac64 GX
- DataExpert ExpertColor S3 Virge GX2
- Sapphire X1550 Ati Radeon X1550 AGP --> too modern for me, but still an interesting card, as I cannot find the same version neither in Google nor on eBay
- ASUS V7100PRO/64M

Anyone can identify the 8 bit ISA card?

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kaposzta wrote on 2024-02-14, 22:24:
I've received two package today with some interesting video/sound cards. […]
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I've received two package today with some interesting video/sound cards.

Package 1 ($30):
- Creative Labs PhoneBlaster (CT3120) --> unfortunately, the upper right corner is broken off, sound card part might still be working though
- Cirrus Logic Laguna 3D (Chaintech) --> perfect condition, tested and working

Package 2 ($90): everything is untested and extremely dirty 😀
- a weird, unidentified 8 bit ISA video card from 1987 with DB9 connector, no RCA connector, two crystals, no Motorola 6845 chip but with Intel A82786 (SX117) graphic co-processor (see picture)
- Trident TVGA9000B
- Matrox G100
- ELSA Winner 1000/T2D (S3 Trio64V2/DX) --> nice addition to my ELSA collection
- Diamond Viper V550
- Asus V3000ZX --> finally I have a Riva 128ZX! 😀
- Spea V7-Mirage P-64 (S3 Vision864) PCI --> already had the VLB version
- Ati Mach64 GX --> my first Mac64 GX
- DataExpert ExpertColor S3 Virge GX2
- Sapphire X1550 Ati Radeon X1550 AGP --> too modern for me, but still an interesting card, as I cannot find the same version neither in Google nor on eBay
- ASUS V7100PRO/64M

Anyone can identify the 8 bit ISA card?

What ever that card is (CGA/Mono/Hercules) with the window exposed on that EPROM its certainly not going to work, one for the display shelf or spares box perhaps unless you can identify the card and source a EPROM dump.

Reply 51797 of 52813, by kaposzta

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-02-14, 22:50:
kaposzta wrote on 2024-02-14, 22:24:
I've received two package today with some interesting video/sound cards. […]
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I've received two package today with some interesting video/sound cards.

Package 1 ($30):
- Creative Labs PhoneBlaster (CT3120) --> unfortunately, the upper right corner is broken off, sound card part might still be working though
- Cirrus Logic Laguna 3D (Chaintech) --> perfect condition, tested and working

Package 2 ($90): everything is untested and extremely dirty 😀
- a weird, unidentified 8 bit ISA video card from 1987 with DB9 connector, no RCA connector, two crystals, no Motorola 6845 chip but with Intel A82786 (SX117) graphic co-processor (see picture)
- Trident TVGA9000B
- Matrox G100
- ELSA Winner 1000/T2D (S3 Trio64V2/DX) --> nice addition to my ELSA collection
- Diamond Viper V550
- Asus V3000ZX --> finally I have a Riva 128ZX! 😀
- Spea V7-Mirage P-64 (S3 Vision864) PCI --> already had the VLB version
- Ati Mach64 GX --> my first Mac64 GX
- DataExpert ExpertColor S3 Virge GX2
- Sapphire X1550 Ati Radeon X1550 AGP --> too modern for me, but still an interesting card, as I cannot find the same version neither in Google nor on eBay
- ASUS V7100PRO/64M

Anyone can identify the 8 bit ISA card?

What ever that card is (CGA/Mono/Hercules) with the window exposed on that EPROM its certainly not going to work, one for the display shelf or spares box perhaps unless you can identify the card and source a EPROM dump.

Yeah, it's definitely not going to work, the EPROM might have been exposed to sunlight for years... Another issue is that the graphic co-processor is missing a leg, good news is that it's still in the socket 😀
I don't think it's CGA, as there are crystals on the card, and I'm not sure if it's an MDA or Hercules card either, as there is no Motorola 6845 chip on it. And probably it's not an EGA, as it looks a bit basic for an EGA card.

Reply 51798 of 52813, by Trashbytes

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kaposzta wrote on 2024-02-14, 23:04:
Trashbytes wrote on 2024-02-14, 22:50:
kaposzta wrote on 2024-02-14, 22:24:
I've received two package today with some interesting video/sound cards. […]
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I've received two package today with some interesting video/sound cards.

Package 1 ($30):
- Creative Labs PhoneBlaster (CT3120) --> unfortunately, the upper right corner is broken off, sound card part might still be working though
- Cirrus Logic Laguna 3D (Chaintech) --> perfect condition, tested and working

Package 2 ($90): everything is untested and extremely dirty 😀
- a weird, unidentified 8 bit ISA video card from 1987 with DB9 connector, no RCA connector, two crystals, no Motorola 6845 chip but with Intel A82786 (SX117) graphic co-processor (see picture)
- Trident TVGA9000B
- Matrox G100
- ELSA Winner 1000/T2D (S3 Trio64V2/DX) --> nice addition to my ELSA collection
- Diamond Viper V550
- Asus V3000ZX --> finally I have a Riva 128ZX! 😀
- Spea V7-Mirage P-64 (S3 Vision864) PCI --> already had the VLB version
- Ati Mach64 GX --> my first Mac64 GX
- DataExpert ExpertColor S3 Virge GX2
- Sapphire X1550 Ati Radeon X1550 AGP --> too modern for me, but still an interesting card, as I cannot find the same version neither in Google nor on eBay
- ASUS V7100PRO/64M

Anyone can identify the 8 bit ISA card?

What ever that card is (CGA/Mono/Hercules) with the window exposed on that EPROM its certainly not going to work, one for the display shelf or spares box perhaps unless you can identify the card and source a EPROM dump.

Yeah, it's definitely not going to work, the EPROM might have been exposed to sunlight for years... Another issue is that the graphic co-processor is missing a leg, good news is that it's still in the socket 😀
I don't think it's CGA, as there are crystals on the card, and I'm not sure if it's an MDA or Hercules card either, as there is no Motorola 6845 chip on it. And probably it's not an EGA, as it looks a bit basic for an EGA card.

Could be one of them proprietary ones from an early IBM machine, its made in the US in 87 which puts it around the VGA era, might not be a display card.

Hrmm

The MB7142H IC is a Fujitsu TTL PROM, so its a display card of some kind, im guessing a proprietary job.

Reply 51799 of 52813, by kaposzta

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-02-14, 23:09:
Could be one of them proprietary ones from an early IBM machine, its made in the US in 87 which puts it around the VGA era, migh […]
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kaposzta wrote on 2024-02-14, 23:04:
Trashbytes wrote on 2024-02-14, 22:50:

What ever that card is (CGA/Mono/Hercules) with the window exposed on that EPROM its certainly not going to work, one for the display shelf or spares box perhaps unless you can identify the card and source a EPROM dump.

Yeah, it's definitely not going to work, the EPROM might have been exposed to sunlight for years... Another issue is that the graphic co-processor is missing a leg, good news is that it's still in the socket 😀
I don't think it's CGA, as there are crystals on the card, and I'm not sure if it's an MDA or Hercules card either, as there is no Motorola 6845 chip on it. And probably it's not an EGA, as it looks a bit basic for an EGA card.

Could be one of them proprietary ones from an early IBM machine, its made in the US in 87 which puts it around the VGA era, might not be a display card.

Hrmm

The MB7142H IC is a Fujitsu TTL PROM, so its a display card of some kind, im guessing a proprietary job.

Yes, this card is a mystery... I planning to send this card to a collector friend, he might be able to get some information out of that EPROM.