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Reply 52161 of 52807, by Trashbytes

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Ensign Nemo wrote on 2024-03-16, 03:31:

Whenever you guys write IPA, I read it as India pale ale. I keep thinking - how would that help with anything? (-:

Im not sure why its called IPA in other parts but here in Australia its normally just called ISO 97%, we can get the weaker stuff but why you would want that for electronics is beyond me.

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Kahenraz wrote on 2024-03-15, 22:45:

I bought this GeForce 3 for a good price ($50 USD, free shipping). Seller stated in the listing:

I note that the fan seems loose, and it makes a rattling noise as it spins.

The fan was caked in dust so I gave it a good blast with compressed air. When I did this, the fan popped off! I'm surprised it didn't fly off on its own when he was testing it. No wonder it was "rattling".

I have to say, I did a double take on this one, thinking maybe I'd listed and sold something and totally forgotten about it... 🤣 . I have a very similar card (I think mine is a Geforce 2 Ultra though) with the same situation. The fan is loose because the tiny plastic C-shaped stopper that clips around the shaft on the back of the fan (basically, the first thing you see when you uncover the hole on the back of the fan) had been deformed by some previous owner. I'm sure a solid tug would pull it right off even with the clip on there, but amazingly after some lubrication with 3 in 1 oil the fan spins fine without vibration and cools the card perfectly.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 52163 of 52807, by Kahenraz

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The part you want to replace might be called an "e-clip". If you measure the old one, you should be able to find a replacement cheap from AliExpress. I'm not so sure about how to search for a replacement if it's a nylon ring though. I don't know if that's a standard part that can be ordered.

Reply 52164 of 52807, by H3nrik V!

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-03-16, 04:59:
Ensign Nemo wrote on 2024-03-16, 03:31:

Whenever you guys write IPA, I read it as India pale ale. I keep thinking - how would that help with anything? (-:

Im not sure why its called IPA in other parts but here in Australia its normally just called ISO 97%, we can get the weaker stuff but why you would want that for electronics is beyond me.

IsoPropylAlkohol in Danish, probably something very close in English. I was also confused at first, when reading IPA, as I'm more into dark lagers and stout type of beer 🤣 actually, I really don't like IPA 🤣

Please use the "quote" option if asking questions to what I write - it will really up the chances of me noticing 😀

Reply 52165 of 52807, by HomeLate

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I saved a bunch PS/2 computers from the scrap pile:
- two Model 30 286, one with a working hard drive
- PS/2 Model 57 486SLC3
- PS/2 Model 70 386
- PS/2 Model 58 486SLC2
- External 5.25" floppy drive which fits the Model 57
- 2 Model M keyboard which are in a rough shape (need cleaning)

I've yet to decide what to do with them. Three of 'm work and boot to DOS. I've yet to test the other PS/2's.

Reply 52166 of 52807, by Trashbytes

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HomeLate wrote on 2024-03-16, 08:32:
I saved a bunch PS/2 computers from the scrap pile: - two Model 30 286, one with a working hard drive - PS/2 Model 57 486SLC3 - […]
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I saved a bunch PS/2 computers from the scrap pile:
- two Model 30 286, one with a working hard drive
- PS/2 Model 57 486SLC3
- PS/2 Model 70 386
- PS/2 Model 58 486SLC2
- External 5.25" floppy drive which fits the Model 57
- 2 Model M keyboard which are in a rough shape (need cleaning)

I've yet to decide what to do with them. Three of 'm work and boot to DOS. I've yet to test the other PS/2's.

The working ones are likely worth a bit, the rest if they cant be repaired to working order will be worth a bit just as parts, I would keep the best of the working ones for myself and sell the other two and spare parts.

There are a good number of people out there looking for replacement parts and spares for their PS/2 machines at reasonable prices, its unfortunate that parts for these models tend to be rather expensive.

Reply 52167 of 52807, by HomeLate

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-03-16, 09:33:
HomeLate wrote on 2024-03-16, 08:32:
I saved a bunch PS/2 computers from the scrap pile: - two Model 30 286, one with a working hard drive - PS/2 Model 57 486SLC3 - […]
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I saved a bunch PS/2 computers from the scrap pile:
- two Model 30 286, one with a working hard drive
- PS/2 Model 57 486SLC3
- PS/2 Model 70 386
- PS/2 Model 58 486SLC2
- External 5.25" floppy drive which fits the Model 57
- 2 Model M keyboard which are in a rough shape (need cleaning)

I've yet to decide what to do with them. Three of 'm work and boot to DOS. I've yet to test the other PS/2's.

The working ones are likely worth a bit, the rest if they cant be repaired to working order will be worth a bit just as parts, I would keep the best of the working ones for myself and sell the other two and spare parts.

There are a good number of people out there looking for replacement parts and spares for their PS/2 machines at reasonable prices, its unfortunate that parts for these models tend to be rather expensive.

Except for the Model 70, all of 'm work. The 58 booted to OS/2 2.0 and was a printserver in its previous life. The other ones booted to PC DOS.

The Model 70 worked briefly but switched itself off after a few seconds and it released a burning smell. I don't know the Model 70 that good, but my guess is a burned out tantalum capacitor.

Reply 52168 of 52807, by Trashbytes

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HomeLate wrote on 2024-03-16, 10:33:
Trashbytes wrote on 2024-03-16, 09:33:
HomeLate wrote on 2024-03-16, 08:32:
I saved a bunch PS/2 computers from the scrap pile: - two Model 30 286, one with a working hard drive - PS/2 Model 57 486SLC3 - […]
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I saved a bunch PS/2 computers from the scrap pile:
- two Model 30 286, one with a working hard drive
- PS/2 Model 57 486SLC3
- PS/2 Model 70 386
- PS/2 Model 58 486SLC2
- External 5.25" floppy drive which fits the Model 57
- 2 Model M keyboard which are in a rough shape (need cleaning)

I've yet to decide what to do with them. Three of 'm work and boot to DOS. I've yet to test the other PS/2's.

The working ones are likely worth a bit, the rest if they cant be repaired to working order will be worth a bit just as parts, I would keep the best of the working ones for myself and sell the other two and spare parts.

There are a good number of people out there looking for replacement parts and spares for their PS/2 machines at reasonable prices, its unfortunate that parts for these models tend to be rather expensive.

Except for the Model 70, all of 'm work. The 58 booted to OS/2 2.0 and was a printserver in its previous life. The other ones booted to PC DOS.

The Model 70 worked briefly but switched itself off after a few seconds and it released a burning smell. I don't know the Model 70 that good, but my guess is a burned out tantalum capacitor.

Very likely or a cap in the PSU has gone, would be worth opening it up and seeing if you can see any skid marks on the motherboard. The damage may not be to bad and a new cap may get her back up and running, having that may working PS/2 machines would be a dream for some collectors, I dont evny you the task of figuring out what to do with them.

My hope is they end up in good homes with collectors who will value them.

Reply 52169 of 52807, by zuldan

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Grabbed the very first Pentium, the 60Mhz SX835. The first computer my parents bought me in 1994 was a Pentium 66 with an AWE32. Brings back a lot of memories. I also remember going to LAN parties and the DX4 100 guys used to laugh at my Pentium saying it was rubbish and had a bug, “you should have got a 486”. Kicking myself now for trading in the that PC for something faster.

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Reply 52170 of 52807, by BitWrangler

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H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-03-16, 08:11:
Trashbytes wrote on 2024-03-16, 04:59:
Ensign Nemo wrote on 2024-03-16, 03:31:

Whenever you guys write IPA, I read it as India pale ale. I keep thinking - how would that help with anything? (-:

Im not sure why its called IPA in other parts but here in Australia its normally just called ISO 97%, we can get the weaker stuff but why you would want that for electronics is beyond me.

IsoPropylAlkohol in Danish, probably something very close in English. I was also confused at first, when reading IPA, as I'm more into dark lagers and stout type of beer 🤣 actually, I really don't like IPA 🤣

Yeah that. It actually frequently says "rubbing alcohol" on the stuff you get from drug stores in North America, but that can include really weakass stuff that's got oil of wintergreen and witch hazel in it, which is probably better for your hurty knee, but useless for cleaning. Some of those type can also be denatured ethanol (with assorted other unhelpful stuff in to denature it) and butanol maybe too.... So the tendency to specify IsoPropyl Alcohol and strength so the right stuff is used. Also may be called Isopropanol.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 52171 of 52807, by HomeLate

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-03-16, 10:45:
HomeLate wrote on 2024-03-16, 10:33:
Trashbytes wrote on 2024-03-16, 09:33:

The working ones are likely worth a bit, the rest if they cant be repaired to working order will be worth a bit just as parts, I would keep the best of the working ones for myself and sell the other two and spare parts.

There are a good number of people out there looking for replacement parts and spares for their PS/2 machines at reasonable prices, its unfortunate that parts for these models tend to be rather expensive.

Except for the Model 70, all of 'm work. The 58 booted to OS/2 2.0 and was a printserver in its previous life. The other ones booted to PC DOS.

The Model 70 worked briefly but switched itself off after a few seconds and it released a burning smell. I don't know the Model 70 that good, but my guess is a burned out tantalum capacitor.

Very likely or a cap in the PSU has gone, would be worth opening it up and seeing if you can see any skid marks on the motherboard. The damage may not be to bad and a new cap may get her back up and running, having that may working PS/2 machines would be a dream for some collectors, I dont evny you the task of figuring out what to do with them.

My hope is they end up in good homes with collectors who will value them.

I will probably check the Model 70 later today and post on the forum if I was able to fix it.

As for what to do with the bunch, I own a few IBM's prior to and after the PS/2 era. So far I only owned a defective Model 30 XT which is on my list to fix. As I primarily focus on non IBM compatibles, I'm not sure what to do with these yet. But I always make sure they end up in good homes. That's way I save these in the first place. I usually sell on Amibay too as eBay prices are usually too high.

Reply 52172 of 52807, by HomeLate

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zuldan wrote on 2024-03-16, 11:46:

Grabbed the very first Pentium, the 60Mhz SX835. The first computer my parents bought me in 1994 was a Pentium 66 with an AWE32. Brings back a lot of memories. I also remember going to LAN parties and the DX4 100 guys used to laugh at my Pentium saying it was rubbish and had a bug, “you should have got a 486”. Kicking myself now for trading in the that PC for something faster.

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I remember me exchanging my Pentium 60 to Intel for one without the bug.
30 years later I spent some time finding another one with the bug 🙂

Reply 52173 of 52807, by eindbaas

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Oodles of RISC and CISC fun arrived in my mailbox today 😀

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Reply 52174 of 52807, by InTheStudy

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eindbaas wrote on 2024-03-16, 15:11:

Oodles of RISC and CISC fun arrived in my mailbox today 😀

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Want want want want want want want want want.

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Got! Or something like it anyway. I've always coveted a SA card, but at £125-£335 from CJE, I can't really justify that when I could build a faster RiscOS machine for £5. Kind of my problem with most of my retrocomputing cravings. Oh well, I have two Electrons, a B, a 3000 and a 610 with PC copro. It'll do. 😁

Reply 52175 of 52807, by eindbaas

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InTheStudy wrote on 2024-03-16, 15:53:
Want want want want want want want want want. […]
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eindbaas wrote on 2024-03-16, 15:11:

Oodles of RISC and CISC fun arrived in my mailbox today 😀

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Want want want want want want want want want.

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Got! Or something like it anyway. I've always coveted a SA card, but at £125-£335 from CJE, I can't really justify that when I could build a faster RiscOS machine for £5. Kind of my problem with most of my retrocomputing cravings. Oh well, I have two Electrons, a B, a 3000 and a 610 with PC copro. It'll do. 😁

That is some truly nice stuff in your collection! You are so right. Me too can't jutify those CJE/Ebay prices. It may be worth it, but just not to me. My RiscPC was completely stock till today. The difference such a StrongArm card makes is really unbelievable.

Reply 52176 of 52807, by ubiq

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PcBytes wrote on 2024-03-15, 23:06:
I'm on an ABIT spree. First this NF7, thanks to @Robert B. It's been armed with an 2800+ OC'd to 3200, 2GB worth of DDR400, a s […]
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I'm on an ABIT spree. First this NF7, thanks to @Robert B. It's been armed with an 2800+ OC'd to 3200, 2GB worth of DDR400, a silver Spire cooler and a Hercules 9700 Pro.

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Then, two VP6s await me from the U.S.A, and a special episode 😁.

Gee, just thinking how I began from a simple BE6-II and worked my way up to nearly 5 boards, of which some pretty fancy ones (BP6, IS7-E, NF7, IP35 Pro) feels crazy. I seriously had not expected my quest of acquiring ABITs would end up THIS far.

Nice! I was def an ABIT guy back in the day: BF6, BH6, BP6, KT7-RAID, AT7. (Then I moved on to a swanky nForce2-based Shuttle XPC - wish I'd kept that...)

Reply 52177 of 52807, by PcBytes

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Ensign Nemo wrote on 2024-03-16, 03:31:

Whenever you guys write IPA, I read it as India pale ale. I keep thinking - how would that help with anything? (-:

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-03-16, 04:59:
Ensign Nemo wrote on 2024-03-16, 03:31:

Whenever you guys write IPA, I read it as India pale ale. I keep thinking - how would that help with anything? (-:

Im not sure why its called IPA in other parts but here in Australia its normally just called ISO 97%, we can get the weaker stuff but why you would want that for electronics is beyond me.

Big 🤣 from me.

We usually call it either "alcool izopropilic" or "alcool tehnic" here, but IPA was the easiest way for me to quickly put it. I can see the connection between pale ale tho 🤣

ubiq wrote on 2024-03-16, 16:58:

Nice! I was def an ABIT guy back in the day: BF6, BH6, BP6, KT7-RAID, AT7. (Then I moved on to a swanky nForce2-based Shuttle XPC - wish I'd kept that...)

I got two more waiting to arrive as of now - 2x VP6s. Gotta see what's wrong with them as I've been told neither POST - one has been polymodded already, dunno in what state is the other one.

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Reply 52178 of 52807, by berenyi_kft

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Here's some 3dfx goodness that I've picked up not too long ago..

Voodoo 3 3000 PCI

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Voodoo 5 5500 PCI Macintosh Edition (flashed with PC BIOS)

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CPU: Intel Pentium Dual Core E5800 3.2GHZ
RAM: Corsair CMX1024-3200C2PRO DDR 400MHz CL2 1GB x 2
GPU: Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 3850 AGP
Sound: Audigy 2 ZS
CRT: Iiyama Vision Master Pro 454 HM903DT 19'' 1920x1440 85Hz

Reply 52179 of 52807, by Trashbytes

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PcBytes wrote on 2024-03-16, 17:47:
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Ensign Nemo wrote on 2024-03-16, 03:31:

Whenever you guys write IPA, I read it as India pale ale. I keep thinking - how would that help with anything? (-:

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-03-16, 04:59:
Ensign Nemo wrote on 2024-03-16, 03:31:

Whenever you guys write IPA, I read it as India pale ale. I keep thinking - how would that help with anything? (-:

Im not sure why its called IPA in other parts but here in Australia its normally just called ISO 97%, we can get the weaker stuff but why you would want that for electronics is beyond me.

Big 🤣 from me.

We usually call it either "alcool izopropilic" or "alcool tehnic" here, but IPA was the easiest way for me to quickly put it. I can see the connection between pale ale tho 🤣

ubiq wrote on 2024-03-16, 16:58:

Nice! I was def an ABIT guy back in the day: BF6, BH6, BP6, KT7-RAID, AT7. (Then I moved on to a swanky nForce2-based Shuttle XPC - wish I'd kept that...)

I got two more waiting to arrive as of now - 2x VP6s. Gotta see what's wrong with them as I've been told neither POST - one has been polymodded already, dunno in what state is the other one.

Not sure I would want to drink the IPA we talk about here, I like home brews but Electronic Cleaner flavour doesn't quite invoke a "tasty beverage" feeling 🤣.