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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 52301 of 52786, by PcBytes

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Acer and Tyan?

"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 52302 of 52786, by PC@LIVE

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Purchased today, three motherboards, a VGA AGP, and an ATX power supply, yesterday I purchased an ATi AIW AGP, two Slot1 CPUs, a Celeron 333 and a PII 400.
The motherboards are two 775s, and one 462, one of the 775s has ATi chipset, the other VIA, interestingly the ISA slot in the 462.
I forgot with yesterday's batch there is also a SB PCI with Ensoniq chip

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AMD 286-16 287-10 4MB HD 45MB VGA 256KB
AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 52303 of 52786, by luckybob

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PcBytes wrote on 2024-03-26, 18:55:

Acer and Tyan?

yup yup yup

https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/acer-m33vt

https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/tyan-s1668d

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Reply 52304 of 52786, by Big Pink

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The last piece of the puzzle for my Frankenstein 5150 arrived - the PSU. And, sigh, the power switch assembly was destroyed in transit. Wasn't bloody cheap, either.

Actually, the last part would be a 5151 monitor but this is exactly why I refrain from buying one online.

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Reply 52305 of 52786, by dionb

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Vipachei wrote on 2024-03-26, 09:56:

I haven't seen a slot1 Celeron with the plastic cover so I snatched this beauty. It's a Celeron 300A Sl2WM.

Have you confirmed it's really that Celeron 300A?

That "PC100" is PC Chips font and they were notorious for re-labeling stuff and overstating capabilities. Of course, sticking "PC100" on a CPU with 66MHz FSB is prime PC Chips already...

Reply 52306 of 52786, by BitWrangler

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I don't know if there was anything worth faking a celeron 300A from

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 52307 of 52786, by BitWrangler

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This lot ended up tempting me, so I am now awaiting their arrival... was just idly pondering needing another PCI soundcard or two... and this popped up..

In order, Audigy SB0090, Live CT4780, Live CT4780 , ewaste*, NIC, NIC, RadeonVE DVI, Radeon 2400Pro PCI 32bit.

*ewaste is one of those extra monitor connectors for onboard graphics, don't think I'll have a use for it, unless someone tells me headless GPU can be used with them.

I dunno why but I'm also a sucker for late PCI graphics, and I wanted some lower profile NICs to be using next to things that need to breathe too.

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Reply 52309 of 52786, by PcBytes

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Came in yesterday. Soltek SL-75FRN2-RL, PCB ver E3.

file.php?mode=view&id=189199
file.php?mode=view&id=189200

(and yes, I'm using a Thorton AXP 2400 for the time being 🤣, until I can get a mobile Barton 2400+ (AXMH2400FQQ4C) working properly on this board. That, and maybe an amber coloured fan to match the rest of the gold/red theme).

Would love to see how it fares against my MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR, especially since they seem to share nearly similar hardware if not exactly the same.

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"Enter at your own peril, past the bolted door..."
Main PC: i5 3470, GB B75M-D3H, 16GB RAM, 2x1TB
98SE : P3 650, Soyo SY-6BA+IV, 384MB RAM, 80GB

Reply 52310 of 52786, by AndrettiGTO

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Big Pink wrote on 2024-03-26, 20:42:

The last piece of the puzzle for my Frankenstein 5150 arrived - the PSU. And, sigh, the power switch assembly was destroyed in transit. Wasn't bloody cheap, either.

Actually, the last part would be a 5151 monitor but this is exactly why I refrain from buying one online.

Sorry to hear, getting harder to find. It’s weird that I see your post today as I just received a 5150 p/s I was searching for a long time. My system is a Rev.A 16-64k with an upgraded p/s. Finally , I now have the original black 63w to install.
Fortunately, no shipping damage.
😀

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Reply 52311 of 52786, by PD2JK

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BitWrangler wrote on 2024-03-26, 22:18:

I don't know if there was anything worth faking a celeron 300A from

Covington Celeron? 😬

"L2 cache? What L2 cache..."

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Reply 52312 of 52786, by revolstar

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This arrived yesterday. It's a GF FX 5700LE, but this is the 128bit/256 MB variant, so it can be overclocked to match the regular FX5700 more closely. The previous owner attached a waaaay OP CPU fan there, which I swapped for a more appropriate GPU cooler from some dead Radeon I had. My hitherto GPU, the FX5500, was struggling a bit in Max Payne, which I'm playing at the moment, so I figured I need a more powerful GPU.

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Reply 52313 of 52786, by Minutemanqvs

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I bought 2 graphic cards for 30€ including shipping, an ATI Mach 64 VT ans a Radeon 7500 (die-shrink of the original Radeon). The package I got today is a bit of a good surprise...the 7500 actually is a 9700! Not what I ordered, but I'm perfectly ok with that this time. Do these 9700 overheat and kill themselves or is it ok running it with this stock cooler/fan combo?

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Searching a Nexgen Nx586 with FPU, PM me if you have one. I have some Athlon MP systems and cookies.

Reply 52314 of 52786, by Trashbytes

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Minutemanqvs wrote on 2024-03-27, 08:50:
I bought 2 graphic cards for 30€ including shipping, an ATI Mach 64 VT ans a Radeon 7500 (die-shrink of the original Radeon). T […]
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I bought 2 graphic cards for 30€ including shipping, an ATI Mach 64 VT ans a Radeon 7500 (die-shrink of the original Radeon). The package I got today is a bit of a good surprise...the 7500 actually is a 9700! Not what I ordered, but I'm perfectly ok with that this time. Do these 9700 overheat and kill themselves or is it ok running it with this stock cooler/fan combo?

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That is indeed one of the death coolers, best to replace it if you intend to use it.

Reply 52315 of 52786, by Minutemanqvs

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-03-27, 09:23:
Minutemanqvs wrote on 2024-03-27, 08:50:
I bought 2 graphic cards for 30€ including shipping, an ATI Mach 64 VT ans a Radeon 7500 (die-shrink of the original Radeon). T […]
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I bought 2 graphic cards for 30€ including shipping, an ATI Mach 64 VT ans a Radeon 7500 (die-shrink of the original Radeon). The package I got today is a bit of a good surprise...the 7500 actually is a 9700! Not what I ordered, but I'm perfectly ok with that this time. Do these 9700 overheat and kill themselves or is it ok running it with this stock cooler/fan combo?

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That is indeed one of the death coolers, best to replace it if you intend to use it.

Ok, I have a Zalman "flower" cooler (VF700 or something like that), it should do the trick...I just have to check if it covers the die correctly.

Searching a Nexgen Nx586 with FPU, PM me if you have one. I have some Athlon MP systems and cookies.

Reply 52316 of 52786, by nhattu1986

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Minutemanqvs wrote on 2024-03-27, 08:50:
I bought 2 graphic cards for 30€ including shipping, an ATI Mach 64 VT ans a Radeon 7500 (die-shrink of the original Radeon). T […]
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I bought 2 graphic cards for 30€ including shipping, an ATI Mach 64 VT ans a Radeon 7500 (die-shrink of the original Radeon). The package I got today is a bit of a good surprise...the 7500 actually is a 9700! Not what I ordered, but I'm perfectly ok with that this time. Do these 9700 overheat and kill themselves or is it ok running it with this stock cooler/fan combo?

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The heatsink is good enough for the 9700, the issue is the metal shim to protect the die that surround the chip is a little bit higher than the gpu itself which then cause the gpu to overheat and gone.
you can either remove the shim and very careful when install heatsink or it may chip the die or you can just sand the shim down and glue it back.
or you can replace the stock heatsink with the other one that fix this issue.

Anyways, always confirmed that gpu made good contact with the heatsink.

Reply 52317 of 52786, by Minutemanqvs

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nhattu1986 wrote on 2024-03-27, 09:38:
The heatsink is good enough for the 9700, the issue is the metal shim to protect the die that surround the chip is a little bit […]
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Minutemanqvs wrote on 2024-03-27, 08:50:
I bought 2 graphic cards for 30€ including shipping, an ATI Mach 64 VT ans a Radeon 7500 (die-shrink of the original Radeon). T […]
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I bought 2 graphic cards for 30€ including shipping, an ATI Mach 64 VT ans a Radeon 7500 (die-shrink of the original Radeon). The package I got today is a bit of a good surprise...the 7500 actually is a 9700! Not what I ordered, but I'm perfectly ok with that this time. Do these 9700 overheat and kill themselves or is it ok running it with this stock cooler/fan combo?

IMG-1520.jpg
IMG-1521.jpg

The heatsink is good enough for the 9700, the issue is the metal shim to protect the die that surround the chip is a little bit higher than the gpu itself which then cause the gpu to overheat and gone.
you can either remove the shim and very careful when install heatsink or it may chip the die or you can just sand the shim down and glue it back.
or you can replace the stock heatsink with the other one that fix this issue.

Anyways, always confirmed that gpu made good contact with the heatsink.

Ok, so like the 9800 then...I have a dead 9800 Pro in a box somewhere, it probably died from the same cause.

Searching a Nexgen Nx586 with FPU, PM me if you have one. I have some Athlon MP systems and cookies.

Reply 52318 of 52786, by Trashbytes

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Minutemanqvs wrote on 2024-03-27, 09:50:
nhattu1986 wrote on 2024-03-27, 09:38:
The heatsink is good enough for the 9700, the issue is the metal shim to protect the die that surround the chip is a little bit […]
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Minutemanqvs wrote on 2024-03-27, 08:50:
I bought 2 graphic cards for 30€ including shipping, an ATI Mach 64 VT ans a Radeon 7500 (die-shrink of the original Radeon). T […]
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I bought 2 graphic cards for 30€ including shipping, an ATI Mach 64 VT ans a Radeon 7500 (die-shrink of the original Radeon). The package I got today is a bit of a good surprise...the 7500 actually is a 9700! Not what I ordered, but I'm perfectly ok with that this time. Do these 9700 overheat and kill themselves or is it ok running it with this stock cooler/fan combo?

IMG-1520.jpg
IMG-1521.jpg

The heatsink is good enough for the 9700, the issue is the metal shim to protect the die that surround the chip is a little bit higher than the gpu itself which then cause the gpu to overheat and gone.
you can either remove the shim and very careful when install heatsink or it may chip the die or you can just sand the shim down and glue it back.
or you can replace the stock heatsink with the other one that fix this issue.

Anyways, always confirmed that gpu made good contact with the heatsink.

Ok, so like the 9800 then...I have a dead 9800 Pro in a box somewhere, it probably died from the same cause.

Similar yes, mostly its to do with that cooler not being good enough to cool both the die and shim and sufficient rates, which causes the shim to suffer heat expansion over time which in turn works the cooler up and off the die, naturally this kills the GPU die. The later revisions had a tension based cooler to help prevent this from occurring and the cooler was also beefier and better able to cool both the die and shim, you then had the XT versions of the 9600 and 9800 that had a new PCB that included temperature monitoring that also helped keep the card cool by allowing throttling.

I have a lot of experience with these cards and removing the shim is possible but its not something you want to do if you have a replacement cooler, its easier to add a copper shim to the die that allows better contact from the cooler, even some thermal pad can work here. I have removed the shim once and it kinda worked, I wont say it was what I would recommend as the shim does help protect the die from uneven tension.

Reply 52319 of 52786, by Trashbytes

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PcBytes wrote on 2024-03-26, 23:28:
Came in yesterday. Soltek SL-75FRN2-RL, PCB ver E3. […]
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Came in yesterday. Soltek SL-75FRN2-RL, PCB ver E3.

file.php?mode=view&id=189199
file.php?mode=view&id=189200

(and yes, I'm using a Thorton AXP 2400 for the time being 🤣, until I can get a mobile Barton 2400+ (AXMH2400FQQ4C) working properly on this board. That, and maybe an amber coloured fan to match the rest of the gold/red theme).

Would love to see how it fares against my MSI K7N2 Delta-ILSR, especially since they seem to share nearly similar hardware if not exactly the same.

Is that Ame from Hololive ?

Sure looks like her.