badmojo wrote:

Cool. How does it sound in comparison to an SC-55?

Interesting sound. I like drums and some guitars instruments, but someone are not ideal.
Sound nice for game ost (like descent, and some other), but sometime not very natural for real music covers.
I'm record some samples later.

How many of you actually have a voodoo4 4500 pci or agp card? I have the complete series except for the 4500 (and ofcourse the extremely high priced 6000 wich i don`t care about too much).

Are these voodoo4`s really that hard to get or is it just here in the netherlands? I don`t use ebay... i watch it every now and then but prices are wayyy too high i think in most cases!
And even there i never see one.

Can anyone in my country hook me up? 😀

Ontopic: i found a lot of stuff at a fleamarket a couple of days ago and for me the best was: 23 boxes of warez cd`s from 98 to 2000 with each box having 4 cd`s! They had all the old games from back in the days (ripped versions ofcourse).
They were all copies but were in mint condition with no damage.

When i got home and tried them i found out NONE of them worked anymore as i completely forgotten about the fact that old cdr`s don`t last that long!!!! Too bad.......

It completely fitted my retro feeling because back then cd burners was something very few people could afford so these cd`s were sold on as copies many times.
The guys that made the original cd`s made millions and eventually ended up in jail..

meljor wrote:

How many of you actually have a voodoo4 4500 pci or agp card? I have the complete series except for the 4500 (and ofcourse the extremely high priced 6000 wich i don`t care about too much).

Are these voodoo4`s really that hard to get or is it just here in the netherlands? I don`t use ebay... i watch it every now and then but prices are wayyy too high i think in most cases!
And even there i never see one.

I have exactly one each of Voodoo 4 and Voodoo 5 in PCI and AGP. Neither is as rare as you might think,it's primarily demand that drives prices. Voodoo 4's I think are somewhat rarer then Voodoo 5's. The problem when trying to collect a complete set of Voodoo cards from 1-5 is that the V4 can cost as much as a V5 so it is nearly always a better deal to just buy a V5 instead which drives demand for V5's even higher. When you're looking at $100+ for a V4 and then see a V5 in the same price range, which do you choose?

meljor wrote:

Ontopic: i found a lot of stuff at a fleamarket a couple of days ago and for me the best was: 23 boxes of warez cd`s from 98 to […]
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Ontopic: i found a lot of stuff at a fleamarket a couple of days ago and for me the best was: 23 boxes of warez cd`s from 98 to 2000 with each box having 4 cd`s! They had all the old games from back in the days (ripped versions ofcourse).
They were all copies but were in mint condition with no damage.

When i got home and tried them i found out NONE of them worked anymore as i completely forgotten about the fact that old cdr`s don`t last that long!!!! Too bad.......

It completely fitted my retro feeling because back then cd burners was something very few people could afford so these cd`s were sold on as copies many times.
The guys that made the original cd`s made millions and eventually ended up in jail..

Are you sure that it is not your CD ROM drive or DVD ROM drive that is not reading these discs properly? I know that CDR's have a shelf life, but if they look to be in mint condition like you say, at least some of them should work. Are you using a new DVD ROM drive to read these older discs? I have found that many of my newer DVD ROM drives will not always read my older CDR discs properly.

even my cheapest cd-r from 1997 is still working without issues...

schlang wrote:

even my cheapest cd-r from 1997 is still working without issues...

I write a lot of cd-r, since 98. A 3-4 year ago I've check disks and found, that earlier cd-r, that recorded in 98-2000 on 2x speed all readed ok, bot since earlier 2000 there a lot of disks, that have errors or unreadable at all. Most of them from ~2001-2003 period, it reads ok from begining, but can't read after ~550mb of size. Damaged about 20-30 percent of my collection.

XXL: http://i.imgur.com/27343nA.jpg

XXL: http://i.imgur.com/H0Q6hry.jpg

What the heck is that one with another chip on the back?

Stojke wrote:

What the heck is that one with another chip on the back?

Both cards (top) should be OEM X-Fi cards. I hope they work with the standard Creative drivers 😊

I know they are XFi, but whats the other chip for?

Stojke wrote:

I know they are XFi, but whats the other chip for?

The card with the chip doesn't work with the standard driver. The other one does.

Here is the chip in large:

^ IIRC that's a PCI bridge chip because the main chip on the card is a pci-e one

I managed to find what Creative say the chip is.

Lukeno94 wrote:

I managed to find what Creative say the chip is.

ah yes , that's it! not a pci-e bridge, I was wrong on that 😵

sliderider wrote:

meljor wrote:

How many of you actually have a voodoo4 4500 pci or agp card? I have the complete series except for the 4500 (and ofcourse the extremely high priced 6000 wich i don`t care about too much).

Are these voodoo4`s really that hard to get or is it just here in the netherlands? I don`t use ebay... i watch it every now and then but prices are wayyy too high i think in most cases!
And even there i never see one.

I have exactly one each of Voodoo 4 and Voodoo 5 in PCI and AGP. Neither is as rare as you might think,it's primarily demand that drives prices. Voodoo 4's I think are somewhat rarer then Voodoo 5's. The problem when trying to collect a complete set of Voodoo cards from 1-5 is that the V4 can cost as much as a V5 so it is nearly always a better deal to just buy a V5 instead which drives demand for V5's even higher. When you're looking at $100+ for a V4 and then see a V5 in the same price range, which do you choose?

Prices for voodoo5 are getting higher and higher here too and people are asking a little too much i think. I guess i bought it at the right time: 25 euro a couple of years ago. (agp)
My voodoo3`s and lower all cost me about 10 euro or less, even de higher demand pci versions of v3.
Voodoo1`s i had for 5 euro and all my cards are working.

Last month i bought 2 brand spanking new Voodoo2 12mb for 35 euro because they were new and boxed. He had 18 of them from an old store supply!!! Good thing is it is a friend of mine because he sells them normally for 30 euro a piece... i allready had three v2`s but they didn`t work in sli, so i bought these 2 for sli (and unboxed them right away)

And i scored a 3500tv finally, complete with cable wich i paid 15 euro for. So i guess i would pay up to 25 for a voodoo4 but i don`t think i will find it for that.

retrofanatic wrote:

meljor wrote:

Ontopic: i found a lot of stuff at a fleamarket a couple of days ago and for me the best was: 23 boxes of warez cd`s from 98 to […]
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Ontopic: i found a lot of stuff at a fleamarket a couple of days ago and for me the best was: 23 boxes of warez cd`s from 98 to 2000 with each box having 4 cd`s! They had all the old games from back in the days (ripped versions ofcourse).
They were all copies but were in mint condition with no damage.

When i got home and tried them i found out NONE of them worked anymore as i completely forgotten about the fact that old cdr`s don`t last that long!!!! Too bad.......

It completely fitted my retro feeling because back then cd burners was something very few people could afford so these cd`s were sold on as copies many times.
The guys that made the original cd`s made millions and eventually ended up in jail..

Are you sure that it is not your CD ROM drive or DVD ROM drive that is not reading these discs properly? I know that CDR's have a shelf life, but if they look to be in mint condition like you say, at least some of them should work. Are you using a new DVD ROM drive to read these older discs? I have found that many of my newer DVD ROM drives will not always read my older CDR discs properly.

Yes! I tried 4 different drives and none of them worked......the cd`s were labeled with those sticky labels and i`ve read that that can influence the readability too. Real shame, because to find pressed versions of these cd`s will be EXTREMELY difficult after all these years. Usually there is not much value in old software so people throw it away even sooner than computers.

Bought 6 untested Pentium III-era laptops for £24 today (including P&P). None of them have broken screens, at least, not physically broken. From what I could make out in the photos, there's a Dell Inspiron 8000, an Inspiron 8100, a Latitude of some kind, a Compaq Armada of some kind, a Toshiba Satellite 1800-712 and a Sony Vaio PCG-FX601 (or FX801). Should be interesting to see if any of them run. I definitely hope the Inspirons do - those were good laptops in their day.

This was on Ebay Australia for a while and the price was slowly being reduced and I thought "F##K IT, Better buy it before someone else does", this is probably one of the best VLB cards released not to mention its hard to find anything complete in box, I'll have to upload the drivers if their aren't any for this chipset on the vogons driver site.

I'll put this head to head against a ET4000W32P and see who wins, would the ET4000 be at disadvantage with only 1MB?

Bought a Gateway 2000 P5-120 w/ matching monitor for $20. God knows why as I already have more P1 systems then I know what to do with. It was in nice condition though and completely stock besides maybe increased RAM. I opened it up and the entire thing was coated with more dust inside then I've ever seen before and I can say I've opened a lot of PC's. I dont think it was opened since 1995. powered up and booted into Win 95 just fine.

Video Logic Graphixstars are good stuff. I remember them getting good reviews in magazines. From the picture, the build quality looks pretty good. It would be nice to get the VRAM version with the S3 968....