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Reply 6260 of 52897, by tayyare

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I got hold of a pretty nice Baby AT case for my upcoming 486 project. Just needed a bit of cleaning and it came with a free Socket 7 motherboard with AMD K6/233 CPU 😀 Also a Soundblaster clone called AdvanceLogic ALS100 Plus, and S3 Trio64 DX with (I think) 4MB.

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Fitted the 486 AMI motherboard, added external CR2032 battery and a hard drive so now it's almost up and running.

I also have the exact same case!.. 😈 During 386DX-40 and early 486 days (1992-1994), it was one of the most used cases in Turkey. Cheap and nasty, but relatively mobile (still fondly remember those DOOM II LAN parties 🤣 ).

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Reply 6261 of 52897, by brostenen

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Word of warning, don't use the Agp slot on that fic PA-2013 board.
Unless its a very low power card like a GF2 MX.
AGP Voodoo3 ruined one of the boards I owned, voltage regulators are not up to agp spec.

True....
I keep the card for my PA-2013 to TNT2 cards, unless I can get some sort of higher powered PCI slot based card's.
Like FX5200 or something just as powerfull... No V3-AGP is going to touch my FIC board, if it is a AGP-Card.
Clearly remember you'r post about this issue. Just want to know how to figure this MAX voltage thing out.
As I lost track of the original discussion about how to find this out..

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 6262 of 52897, by brostenen

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QBiN wrote:

I already had one of these boards (1MB cache version), but got this to get a spare and was surprised to find out it was one of the rare 2MB versions... Score!

Are they rare? Hmmm.... I would so much rather having an Gigabyte GA-5AX Rev. 5.x board instead.
On the other hand. I have a P-III system for Win98SE.
That is why my FIC is inside a pure MS-Dos-6.22 system, despite K6-III-400 + TNT2-M64 is overkill.

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 6263 of 52897, by pojo

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tayyare wrote:

I also have the exact same case!.. 😈 During 386DX-40 and early 486 days (1992-1994), it was one of the most used cases in Turkey. Cheap and nasty, but relatively mobile (still fondly remember those DOOM II LAN parties 🤣 ).

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Cool! Looks much better with a 5.25" floppy in it 😀 Also like the no.1 case a lot.

Reply 6264 of 52897, by Thraka

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Nabbed this Toshiba Satellite Pro 435CDS at a thrift store. It said "for parts" on the tag but the contents looked in such great condition I couldn't see what would be wrong with it that wouldn't be easily fixable.

Nothing was wrong with it apart from a line through the middle of the screen and its a tiny bit darker on the top half. I think that is a common problem though that can easily be fixed. The battery still holds a charge! If only I had a docking station.. Really though I cannot keep it. I don't have the room and I'm going to be selling off a bunch of crap because I'll be moving soon. 🙁

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Reply 6265 of 52897, by QBiN

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brostenen wrote:
Are they rare? Hmmm.... I would so much rather having an Gigabyte GA-5AX Rev. 5.x board instead. On the other hand. I have a P-I […]
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QBiN wrote:

I already had one of these boards (1MB cache version), but got this to get a spare and was surprised to find out it was one of the rare 2MB versions... Score!

Are they rare? Hmmm.... I would so much rather having an Gigabyte GA-5AX Rev. 5.x board instead.
On the other hand. I have a P-III system for Win98SE.
That is why my FIC is inside a pure MS-Dos-6.22 system, despite K6-III-400 + TNT2-M64 is overkill.

From what I understand, read elsewhere, and my own searching for spares, yes, the 2MB cache version is rare. They came out in late '98 after the 512K and 1MB cache versions had been out for around 6 months. So most people who wanted a super socket 7 mobo by then either had one, or had a larger field to choose from. The 1MB version was near the top of the performance heap among other Super Socket 7 boards (even the GA-5AX) in the 1998 motherboard review Tom's Hardware did back then. Anandtech also noted it's above average performance. Both of my boards appear to be later revisions, and I have no desire to run Voodoo3+ boards. So I'm good.

I got turned off of 3dfx when I bought a Voodoo3 3000 that I could not get to play nice with an ASUS K7V and Athlon 700 back in 2000. The drivers were crap and a few games I had didn't like it at all. Soldier of Fortune was one I remember specifically. I switched to a nVidia Geforce2-GTS back then and never looked back.

Nothing against a GA-5AX or an Asus P5A, but my FIC has served me well for my late '90's socket 7 period PC.

Reply 6266 of 52897, by jwt27

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Got two of these:

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IDE, 120GB MLC. Specs are promising: 120MB/s read and 90MB/s write.

These were sold as used, so I was quite surprised to find that their SMART data says otherwise: They've seen 5 power cycles so far with 0 power-on hours total 😀

Reply 6268 of 52897, by havli

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These Toshiba laptops are very nice... I have couple of them myself, only TFT variants though.
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Athlon 64 FX-51 just arrived 😀
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Reply 6269 of 52897, by SquallStrife

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I'm not one to seek out CIB hardware, but if it falls on my lap, I'm not going to turn it away!

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Reply 6270 of 52897, by kithylin

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Cloudschatze wrote:
http://www.symphoniae.com/soundcard/Creative/CT4760/JPG/CT4801.jpg […]
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The Creative accessory formerly known as Unobtainium.

I've owned one in the other room for years and never done much with it. Are they worth selling?

EDIT: I have the white and grey version though, and mine accepts SPDIF optical in.. as well as out, maybe coaxial too, I'd have to dig it up and don't remember exactly.

Reply 6271 of 52897, by vmunix

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SquallStrife wrote:

I'm not one to seek out CIB hardware, but if it falls on my lap, I'm not going to turn it away!

Looks like a Tibook, be carefull with the hinges, they are brittle.
is it brand new ?

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Reply 6272 of 52897, by SquallStrife

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vmunix wrote:
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I'm not one to seek out CIB hardware, but if it falls on my lap, I'm not going to turn it away!

Looks like a Tibook, be carefull with the hinges, they are brittle.
is it brand new ?

Yep, Titanium PowerBook.

From what I understand from the seller, it was unpacked, switched on, packed back up, and never touched again.

And it does look that way too, so as-good-as-brand-new!

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Reply 6273 of 52897, by vmunix

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SquallStrife wrote:
Yep, Titanium PowerBook. […]
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vmunix wrote:
SquallStrife wrote:

I'm not one to seek out CIB hardware, but if it falls on my lap, I'm not going to turn it away!

Looks like a Tibook, be carefull with the hinges, they are brittle.
is it brand new ?

Yep, Titanium PowerBook.

From what I understand from the seller, it was unpacked, switched on, packed back up, and never touched again.

And it does look that way too, so as-good-as-brand-new!

Unless you install Linux (like I did) or something you can update, OSX is no longer supported in that one, I would leave everything as you received plus extra wrapping, some day it will be a collectors item.

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Reply 6274 of 52897, by Cloudschatze

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The Creative accessory formerly known as Unobtainium.

EDIT: I have the white and grey version though, and mine accepts SPDIF optical in.. as well as out, maybe coaxial too, I'd have to dig it up and don't remember exactly.

That would be the SB0002, "Digital I/O Module." Both it and the earlier CT4800 are much more prevalent than the CT4801, "Digital Output Module," which uniquely (among the Creative offerings) provides coaxial and optical S/PDIF outputs for the front and rear channels. The rarity of the CT4801 can be attributed both to its geographically limited release, and its exclusive compatibility with the CT4760 SB Live! card.

Using the CT4801, I'm able to reclaim the slot occupied by the second CT4710 in this configuration:

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Reply 6275 of 52897, by Gamecollector

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Maybe I'm wrong and forgot something but the 50 MHz FSB (P75 (1.5x50) and P100 (2x50)) wasn't supported on my FIC PA-2013... Unfortunately can't retest this, the MB is long ago dead (the layer cracked when I connected an IDE cable).

Nope. You are correct. I spoke too soon. On second glance, the lowest CPU speed it supports is 66MHz FSB and a 1.5x multiplier. Not an issue for me as I the lowest P5 processor I have currently is a P-166. If I ever need to support something lower, I have a Tyan Tomcat S1563D (i430HX chipset) laying around I can use.

Well, even if 50 and 60 MHz were supported - there is Cyrix to the rescue! 6x86-PR120+, 55 MHz bus. And even 6x86-PR90+ with the 40 MHz bus. Make me unseen this please...
Was there any Socket5/7/SS7 motherboard with the 40 MHz support? Really?

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Reply 6276 of 52897, by SquallStrife

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vmunix wrote:

Unless you install Linux (like I did) or something you can update, OSX is no longer supported in that one, I would leave everything as you received plus extra wrapping, some day it will be a collectors item.

If it's a later model PowerBook Ti, it should run Leopard OK. That's "modern" enough for me. Once you put Linux on something it becomes "just another computer" IMO.

Potential future resale value of these things is of no interest to me. They're toys to me, and I want to play with them. 😀

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Reply 6277 of 52897, by Anonymous Coward

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Makes you wonder who bought those early 6x86 chips. I mean with a 40MHz bus why not just save some money and buy a 5x86 instead.

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Reply 6278 of 52897, by vetz

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Gamecollector wrote:

Well, even if 50 and 60 MHz were supported - there is Cyrix to the rescue! 6x86-PR120+, 55 MHz bus. And even 6x86-PR90+ with the 40 MHz bus. Make me unseen this please...
Was there any Socket5/7/SS7 motherboard with the 40 MHz support? Really?

Yes, there were, I own some of them as well 😀
ASUS PCI/I-P54SP4 supports 40mhz FSB, but can't run Cyrix CPU's.
ASUS PCI/I-P54TP4 supports 40mhz FSB and can run Cyrix CPUs. (This was ASUS's first Intel 430FX board in Jan/Feb 1995). See full thread: ASUS PCI/I-P54TP4 Socket 5 motherboard thread/review

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Reply 6279 of 52897, by carlostex

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Cloudschatze wrote:
http://www.symphoniae.com/soundcard/Creative/CT4760/JPG/CT4801.jpg […]
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The Creative accessory formerly known as Unobtainium.

Glad that you finally found one! 😎