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Reply 6440 of 52971, by AlphaWing

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Another PCI YMF-724 :
Nothing special other then the fact this one is actually produced by Yamaha themselves, and its covered in rubycon caps.
Yamaha Waveforce 192 XG

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Reply 6441 of 52971, by BSA Starfire

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Got an IBM eserver X series 225 model 8647-4BX from the boot sale on sunday for £10. It's a massive heavy beast, nearly killed me carrying it up 3 flights of stairs. Dual Xeon prestonia's at 2.67Ghz, 1 gb of DDR ram, 5 36.4 gb SCSI hard disks (10,000 RPM). It seems to be working OK, although no OS is installed but goes into CMOS OK. It really needs a massive clean up as it is utterly filthy so I will post some pictures once that is done. No idea at the moment what i will do with it, it's is seriously loud, like a jet fighter racing a helicopter in a sandstorm, so not something I want running too often to be honest. I'm thinking media server is not it's calling! 🤣

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Reply 6442 of 52971, by vmunix

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AlphaWing wrote:
Another PCI YMF-724 : Nothing special other then the fact this one is actually produced by Yamaha themselves, and its covered in […]
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Another PCI YMF-724 :
Nothing special other then the fact this one is actually produced by Yamaha themselves, and its covered in rubycon caps.
Yamaha Waveforce 192 XG
Waveforce192XG_zps3bd7c08f.jpg

I've read somewhere that this is one of the few PCI sound cards that still has onboard sample ROM (2Mb?) which may be usable on real mode DOS any clue ?
Nice gunboat btw.

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Reply 6443 of 52971, by brostenen

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A while ago, I bought an Asus FX-5200-AGP, 128mb for just under 8 US Dollars.

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Reply 6444 of 52971, by brostenen

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AlphaWing wrote:

Another PCI YMF-724

Uhh... That PcPci connector. Is that used the same way as SB-Link?
And if that is the case, how to hook it up with the SB-Link header on a Mobo?

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Reply 6445 of 52971, by hard1k

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brostenen wrote:
AlphaWing wrote:

Another PCI YMF-724

Uhh... That PcPci connector. Is that used the same way as SB-Link?
And if that is the case, how to hook it up with the SB-Link header on a Mobo?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-54mm-Pitch-2x3Pin-F … =item5d4ded0ea6

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Reply 6446 of 52971, by brostenen

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Thanks..
So PcPci is the same as SB-Link right? I actually want to make my own if it is the case.
How is the pinout if it is SB-Link in disguse? I notice that SB-Link is 5 pin and PcPci is 6 pin.

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Reply 6447 of 52971, by hard1k

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brostenen wrote:
Thanks.. So PcPci is the same as SB-Link right? I actually want to make my own if it is the case. How is the pinout if it is SB- […]
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hard1k wrote:

Thanks..
So PcPci is the same as SB-Link right? I actually want to make my own if it is the case.
How is the pinout if it is SB-Link in disguse? I notice that SB-Link is 5 pin and PcPci is 6 pin.

Re: Adding a PC/PCI (a.k.a. SB-Link) Connector on the BX
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Reply 6448 of 52971, by brostenen

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Thanks... 😀 😜

Edit:
After actually reading the page. I realise that it is a way to create a SB-Link header on the motherboard.
And not how to create the actual cable from SB-Link (mobo) to PcPci (soundcard).
My Epox motherboard and my Intel board both have SB-Link headers on them.

So, asking again...
How is the pin assignments, if I want to make the cable that goes between Mobo and Soundcard?

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Reply 6449 of 52971, by AlphaWing

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Yea its the same as the SB-LINK
Almost all ymf-724 cards have them, using them is basically the same as an ISA card when connected that way under dos.
Not that its needed, for the most part they have excellent dos game compatibility without the cable attached.

These cards work in XP tho, if you don't install the Yamaha drivers they make excellent cards to put in more modern machines for OPL-3 playback under windows. If you find one of the rare ones with SPDIF output you can do digital OPL-3 capture, thats cleaner then you get out of anything from creative.
I have a couple of those, and keep them in more modern machines paired with another card.
OPL-3 is not an emulation with these.

Check an asus manual for the PIN- Assignments, they usually have them.
Heres one
support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguag ... edid=n%2fa
You have to be creative for the cables, but those arduino female-female extension cables work good, and are cheap.

There both 5-pin btw, there is a pin missing just like the SB-LINK.
Same connector just renamed. Camera flash kinda makes it look like 6, but the middle bottom row pin is not there.

Reply 6450 of 52971, by Lukeno94

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Not massively retro, but I got five of these Dell Latitude D600, of which this is by far the nicest. Of course, that means that of the five, it is the only one with no XP CoA (Win2K instead)! £9 a laptop, and although they all need a few parts, parts for D600s are pretty cheap (even a brand-new replacement battery is about a tenner). A couple of 60GB HDDs for these arrived today as well. Got something a little more interesting on the way as well....

Reply 6451 of 52971, by lazibayer

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vmunix wrote:
AlphaWing wrote:
Another PCI YMF-724 : Nothing special other then the fact this one is actually produced by Yamaha themselves, and its covered in […]
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Another PCI YMF-724 :
Nothing special other then the fact this one is actually produced by Yamaha themselves, and its covered in rubycon caps.
Yamaha Waveforce 192 XG
Waveforce192XG_zps3bd7c08f.jpg

I've read somewhere that this is one of the few PCI sound cards that still has onboard sample ROM (2Mb?) which may be usable on real mode DOS any clue ?
Nice gunboat btw.

This particular card doesn't have onboard sample rom.

Reply 6452 of 52971, by AlphaWing

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Yea it doesn't.
Sorry I've never seen one that has. Sure they exist tho. 744 and 754? models?
Just ones have have coxial S/PDIF outputs that work in dos are the rarest ones I've come across.

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Also nice laptop above.

Reply 6453 of 52971, by brostenen

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AlphaWing wrote:
Yea its the same as the SB-LINK Almost all ymf-724 cards have them, using them is basically the same as an ISA card when connect […]
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Yea its the same as the SB-LINK
Almost all ymf-724 cards have them, using them is basically the same as an ISA card when connected that way under dos.
Not that its needed, for the most part they have excellent dos game compatibility without the cable attached.

These cards work in XP tho, if you don't install the Yamaha drivers they make excellent cards to put in more modern machines for OPL-3 playback under windows. If you find one of the rare ones with SPDIF output you can do digital OPL-3 capture, thats cleaner then you get out of anything from creative.
I have a couple of those, and keep them in more modern machines paired with another card.
OPL-3 is not an emulation with these.

Check an asus manual for the PIN- Assignments, they usually have them.
Heres one
support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguag ... edid=n%2fa
You have to be creative for the cables, but those arduino female-female extension cables work good, and are cheap.

There both 5-pin btw, there is a pin missing just like the SB-LINK.
Same connector just renamed. Camera flash kinda makes it look like 6, but the middle bottom row pin is not there.

In other words, Pin1 on the sound card goes into Pin1 on the motherboard right?
Pin2 to pin2, pin3 to pin3 and so forth?

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Reply 6454 of 52971, by HighTreason

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AlphaWing wrote:

Just ones have have coxial S/PDIF outputs that work in dos are the rarest ones I've come across.

I have one of those, use it in my PII.

I recently bought a floppy drive for a Zenith Slimsport I was meant to fix a decade ago... No point posting a pic really. I will however, post pictures of the Zenith if I can make it work though if the floppy works I will have to get it a new hard drive; the old 21MB Conner was the first thing to shit the bed and the floppy drive had a serious mechanical failure a little later.

Bit of a wreck really that thing;
No HDD, no FDD, dead RTC battery, missing screws, botched inverter, defective screen, erratic LCD driver, scratchy pots for said screen, faulty charger, missing some chassis parts and drive caddy (can make a new one though) as well as some minor problems.

Main battery still holds charge though, total franken-machine if I ever get it going. 😈 😁

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Reply 6456 of 52971, by brostenen

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AlphaWing wrote:
Pinout on the card is same as the connector on the mobo. So yea Pin-1-1 etc. Heres an old vogons thread on it. PC/PCI or SB-LINK […]
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Pinout on the card is same as the connector on the mobo.
So yea Pin-1-1 etc.
Heres an old vogons thread on it.
PC/PCI or SB-LINK cable. How to make?

Thanks. 😀 Have all I need to know now. 😀
Now I can test my A-Open AW 320 card in Ms-Dos-6.22

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Reply 6457 of 52971, by vetz

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Finally got a Gravis Ultrasound for a OK price! It's a Gravis Ultrasound Classic rev 3.4 paid 80 dollar for it. It has 512kb with RAM, so I'll need to upgrade it 😀

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Also got this Zenith Service manual for my Zenith Z-386/20 machine I got for free earlier. It's a great addition to the system! It has insane amount of details and it also include manuals for other contemporary Zenith computers if anyone is interested. I now know every jumper on the whole motherboard and their functions. It also explains the BIOS in very high detail and the function behind the LED diagnostic lights. It also contains the business card of the repair person who used to own it as well as confidential papers on replacement parts and Zenith's testing results.

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Reply 6458 of 52971, by Skyscraper

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vetz wrote:

Finally got a Gravis Ultrasound for a OK price! It's a Gravis Ultrasound Classic rev 3.4 paid 80 dollar for it. It has 512kb with RAM, so I'll need to upgrade it 😀

Grats! $80 is very cheap these days. I paid about the same for an untested card some time ago.

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