Bought a few 486 off a guy whose add I responded to on Craigslist a few years ago. kept in touch and this week he gave me a call and wanted to unload a bit of his collection and asked if I was interested. of course I was. its mostly odds & ends all was free though.

King_Corduroy wrote:

Thanks, went back once again yesterday and bought all these as well as the other IBM CGA monitor. 😁

What an amazing haul, well done. It's now your duty to restore/upgrade all that hardware to tip top condition 😎

I found at the basement an Ati Rage Fury MAXX, long forgotten! Tested it and found to be working good! 😮

Since I'm not going to use it, does anybody know what it's worth nowadays?
Searched on ebay, but the prices were kinda... insane.

Here is the beauty:

sprcorreia has one for 28 euros on amibay, since at least 3 month I think.

Thanks!

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Adding another V4-4500 to the H0aRD - this time it's the US AGP version.

Interesting. 2 AGP keys, 3V and 1.5V. Have you tested this videocard with AGP 3.0 motherboards?

These voodoo's works fine in agp4x and agp8x systems

It's universal AGP - it should work in any AGP slot as a result. I forget if the Voodoo4 is limited to AGP 2x or 4x bandwidth though.

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It's universal AGP - it should work in any AGP slot as a result. I forget if the Voodoo4 is limited to AGP 2x or 4x bandwidth though.

It's even worse 😁, the chip is connected via an internal PCI-66 bus. There are no AGP features supported.

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It's even worse 😁, the chip is connected via an internal PCI-66 bus. There are no AGP features supported.

I thought that was only the multi-chip cards (like the 5500) that didn't support AGP features. 😵

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Arctic wrote:

It's even worse 😁, the chip is connected via an internal PCI-66 bus. There are no AGP features supported.

I thought that was only the multi-chip cards (like the 5500) that didn't support AGP features. 😵

I am pretty sure 3dfx released no card with agp features (unfortunately 😢 )

The original 3dfx/STB Voodoo4 4500 AGP (on the photo above) is the only Voodoo reliably working in AGP 4/8x boards. I'm 100% sure of that.
Voodoo4 cards made by Powercolor (and possibly other manufacturers) should be only used in AGP universal or AGP 2x boards though. Some of them may work in AGP 4/8x, but some get damaged after relatively short amount of time. Perhaps it depends on the PCB revision... informations concerning this matter are contradictory. I suggest to use only "safe" 3.3V AGP mobos for these. 😉

No 3dfx chip support AGP texturing, however some cards based on them can utilize the full AGP bandwith. Maximum AGP speed is as following:
Banshee = AGP 1x (PCI66)
Voodoo3 = AGP 2x
Voodoo4 (3dfx) = AGP 4x
Voodoo4 (Powercolor) = AGP 2x
Voodoo5 = AGP 1x (PCI66)

The V4 AGP often defaults to AGP 1x mode, it can be forced to run agp 2x or 4x via 3dfx tools or Vcontrol.

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Yeah I'm probably going to try and install geoworks, such a great GUI I just don't understand why it didn't catch on.

More than likely Microsoft's complete control of the industry at that time so Geoworks was swept under the rug out of the view of the public eye. I agree Geoworks GUI indeed is great. IMHO it was ahead of Microsoft's gui, it just simply looked more inviting. 😎

Yeah, it was more inviting, worked better with DOS applications, was easier to use and in my opinion was far more reliable. It should have come out on top but unfortunately big money wins again. 😒

Yup, unfortunately greed talked. I really like GEOS on the C64 and C128, works awesomely when combined with a CMD hard drive for that platform too.

What hurt GeoWorks was the cost of the software tools to create software for the platform. These are freely available now from Breadbox though. The included software bundle was pretty good for the time, which was it's main advantage. I've used both Win3.x and PC Geos. PCGeos was slow at adopting video drivers with greater than 16 colours, no TCPIP support(Trumpet Winsock for Win3.1) etc. 2.0 was a total revamp of code and was slower than 1.x as well. You could get third party shells for win3.x at a cost. By the time Windows 95 was released it was too late to even try to compete.

It's cool that BeadBox Inc. still sells it though. Only ppp out of the box though.

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Very cool! I received disks that were perforated with such a tool many many years ago, and always wanted to see what one looked like.

I haven't hooked this up to a monitor yet, but its a 386-20MHz system with a mathcoprocessor. Two 5.25 floppy drives, a 3.5 and a 120MB tape backup. I don't know how much memory because its all on the motherboard (no empty sockets, so maybe 4MB) The hard drive is an ancient 5.25 type (TOP drive bay in the 2nd photo), not sure how many MB (20MB I'm betting). $50 for this and a Keytronics AT/XT switchable keyboard, a logitech mouse and a serial adapter.

Booting this up without a monitor or keyboard attached I could hear the faint little "TICK" of the memory being checked. Those were some VERY slow ticks, so not sure if the TURBO button was stuck at 8/12MHz. The battery is in GREAT shape (no corrosion at all!!!) but going to yank it anyways, since those little things always end up leaking.

I'll edit this post once I get it hooked up and running. I've never had a 5.25" hard drive in my possession in a tower case like this. They always came in the IBM-clone AT desktop-style cases. I also don't know why three floppy drives. More fun to be had this weekend. I'm going to see how well this thing runs Wing Commander 1...

That... is one tall PC! Three floppy drives, one tape drive, and a large (physically) hard drive... what a weird one.

It's a server case, I have a 486 system just like it that was at one point a UNIX SCO serial terminal server in a doctors office.