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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 9500 of 52929, by Lukeno94

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Took delivery of this laptop today:

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An IBM Thinkpad 380E that doesn't seem to want to photograph particularly well tonight, but ah well. Cost me the princely sum of £15 (and it came with the charger) - plus 99p for a replacement CMOS battery that was all it needed to get running. No CD drive fitted though, so I had to take the 2GB HDD out and install Windows 98 SE via another system. Everything seems to work, and it was specced with the 150 MHz Pentium MMX, and 48MB of RAM. It does have a dual-scan SVGA screen, which is a bit of a shame, but even the battery is taking a charge, albeit not a large amount of charge.

Reply 9501 of 52929, by manbearpig

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PII board with 4 ISA slots, for $9.50! It's an MSI OEM board, Premio 212B. Can't find much info about it but it looks like a 440LX and I've got a 333MHz PII ready to drop in.

Premio 212B motherboard (MSI MS-6112)
Intel PentiumII 333MHz Slot 1 66MHz bus
384MB ECC 66MHz
SIIG ATA133 controller --> Seagate Barracuda 80GB
SIIG Gigabit Ethernet (RTL8169) / USB 2.0 / IEEE1394 controller
ESS 1869 soundcard on board wavetable synth

Reply 9502 of 52929, by vmunix

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boxpressed wrote:
Picked up another lot of ISA & PCI sound cards. Got all of these for $20 shipped. […]
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Picked up another lot of ISA & PCI sound cards. Got all of these for $20 shipped.

* Silicom Wavemaster 32FGP. This one is in the center row at the bottom. I pretty much bid on the lot for this card. It has an AdMOS QDSP QS700 patch set for GM, and it has a real OPL3. I'm starting to collect ISA cards with internal sound banks/patch sets, and this one was cheap.

* Three Vortex-based cards, two of them Vortex 2. I don't have a Diamond Monster MX300, so that was a bonus.

* S3 Sonic Vibes. I'd never even heard of this card. Apparently, it is one of the earlier PCI-based sound cards, a contemporary of the Ensoniq AudioPCI.

* Some Yamaha-based cards, 719 (2x) and 724.

* A few others that don't seem too interesting.

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That S3 looks very similar however not exactly like the Turtle Beach Daytona, it has some interesting features. It supports DLS sound fonts and windows 98 comes with a Roland Gmidi -dls sound font so you can upload it and use very good quality sounds, it also has reverb and chorus effects although both are not very deep or convincing effects, also has SRS surround, it is however a bit noisy, so it was never an option for serious purposes, it was meant for windows games and midi.

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Reply 9503 of 52929, by shamino

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I've recently gotten interested in late AGP cards. Bought a Visiontek HD2600XT, and I'm impressed by the apparent build quality of that card. I will lean towards that brand in the future. It has top quality caps and a nice copper heatsink. There's even a heatsink on the back side of the card, but I noticed it doesn't actually make contact with the Rialto chip. That's one flaw.

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I haven't tested it in Windows yet. I tried it in linux mint 17.1, and it seems to work fine. Unfortunately, late AGP Radeons don't seem to have any linux support from ATI. I saw an old discussion thread where somebody from AMD/ATI was talking about such a driver being in development, but here in October 2015 there is still no listing for such a driver on their web site - only the Express versions. Apparently it never got done.
The open source linux driver for these cards performs so badly that it's not really usable for 3D in that OS. At first I didn't know if it was just because of WINE, but no, a slower nVidia card running the same game on WINE was much faster. Then I found the 'glmark2' OpenGL linux benchmark, and it confirmed the problem. The open source 'gallium' driver for the HD2600XT is just slow.
I always liked AMD, but I must say, their weak driver support for ATI graphics cards, especially anything more than a couple years old, is something that has damaged my opinion of AMD significantly.

Before that, I had bought a Sapphire X1950GT AGP card, but it doesn't work. It worked on the 2nd motherboard I tried it with, but none of 3 others, then it didn't work on that 2nd motherboard either. It's kind of frustrating to have a card that has worked once, because it means the problem must be some marginal thing that could be fixed, but I have no idea what it is. All the voltages seem to be good. The VRM is unusual, it doesn't have any large capacitors at all. The largest it has are three 100uF caps. I replaced the one that was accessible, and reflowed the molex connectors, and cleaned the edge connector, but it still won't POST anymore. A Dell BIOS logs an event saying there's an error initializing video.
This is why I hate buying used high end cards. They're so terribly prone to turn up dead.

Finally, I splurged on a 7800GS that was still sealed. I'm not even sure if I'll end up using it, but I always wanted one of those and getting one sealed means it should be in good condition. It's the fastest AGP Nvidia, short of some rare exotic cards. It's the kind of card that I'm afraid to spend much money on if they're used, because I'm afraid half of them will be faulty due to bumpgate and from the stress they've endured over their lives.

From what I've seen on eBay, it seems like the 2600XT cards are about the sweet spot for price vs performance. There doesn't seem to be much price differential between 2600 Pro and XT, even though online reviews show a major performance difference. The 3850 and 4670 are the ultimate AGP performers, but they get really expensive.
Just maybe a week ago, I was amazed to see that NewEgg still had new HD4650 AGP cards for sale. They were GDDR3 cards, unlike the typical DDR2 of all the others I've seen. With that RAM it seems they would perform almost as fast as the 4670. Then the very next day, they were sold out, surely for good.

Reply 9504 of 52929, by boxpressed

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I've reached the point in my collecting where I'm downgrading to "good enough" equipment because of overkill. So I picked up both of these items for my SE440BX-2 build:

  • a 450MHz P3 Katmai (replaces a 1000MHz P3 Coppermine & a 1300MHz Tualeron/Powerleap)
    a GF4 Ti4400 (replaces a GF4 Ti4600)

Honestly, I'm not running any games that need a 1000MHz CPU, and the Intel fan on the 1000MHz P3 is just too loud. I'm even thinking about cutting the fan on the Katmai just to see how hot it gets with passive cooling. I was looking for an early P3 with a decent-looking heatsink (unlike those awful silver OEM aluminum foil-looking sinks). $7.50 shipped for the Katmai.

I'm afraid something will happen to my Ti4600, which is perhaps my favorite videocard of all time next to my Voodoo 3s. This Ti4400 is just fine and was $8.50 shipped.

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Reply 9505 of 52929, by Skyscraper

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I bought this Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 ISA card. I think it has a S3 P86C911 GPU.

The price was ~5 euro with + ~6 euro shipping.

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New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 9506 of 52929, by Evert

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I won this Gravis Ultrasound Classic Rev 3.74 card in an auction. Paid way too much for it, but it's not like you see them a lot.

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There's only one small problem: it's missing the GAL16V8B-25LP IC. I hope it's not a difficult part to get. Can I just buy one off of eBay or is it something that needs to be programmed?

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Reply 9507 of 52929, by Formulator

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The MT-32 composer's deluxe set:

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Reply 9508 of 52929, by Formulator

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I forgot to include that I was also bitten by the Windows bug. I have still never worked v1.0 for WIN, but this will do.

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Reply 9511 of 52929, by Skyscraper

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I could not resist this system.

The price was 49 euro + 17 euro shipping, the auction was set to auto accept offers as it says "Best offer accepted" so I could probably got it even cheaper but I didnt want to wait those extra seconds...

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New PC: i9 12900K @5GHz all cores @1.2v. MSI PRO Z690-A. 32GB DDR4 3600 CL14. 3070Ti.
Old PC: Dual Xeon X5690@4.6GHz, EVGA SR-2, 48GB DDR3R@2000MHz, Intel X25-M. GTX 980ti.
Older PC: K6-3+ 400@600MHz, PC-Chips M577, 256MB SDRAM, AWE64, Voodoo Banshee.

Reply 9512 of 52929, by PhilsComputerLab

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Skyscraper wrote:

I could not resist this system.

The price was 49 euro + 17 euro shipping, the auction was set to auto accept offers as it says "Best offer accepted" so I could probably got it even cheaper but I didnt want to wait those extra seconds...
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😲 That's awesome!

The 33 MHz model was my very first computer. *sniffle*

Had that hard drive bay, came with DOS and Windows. I loved that machine. Sold it to upgrade to a 486.

If you clean it / take it apart, please take some pictures.

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Reply 9514 of 52929, by 386_junkie

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Skyscraper wrote:

The price was 49 euro + 17 euro shipping, the auction was set to auto accept offers as it says "Best offer accepted" so I could probably got it even cheaper but I didnt want to wait those extra seconds...

Nice find... decent price too!

One you know, let me know what it's made of... Mobo etc.

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Reply 9515 of 52929, by adalbert

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Voodoo3 2000 and Voodoo3 3000. Both working, the price was around 8 eur shipped for each.

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Reply 9516 of 52929, by Callahan

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adalbert wrote:

Voodoo3 2000 and Voodoo3 3000. Both working, the price was around 8 eur shipped for each.

Nice findings!

Cpq: ap550(2x1G/256k), sp750(2x900/2MB), 5100(2xpII300)
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HP Vectra XU 6/200 2x PIIOD 512MB FPM Banshee
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Reply 9517 of 52929, by kixs

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adalbert wrote:

Voodoo3 2000 and Voodoo3 3000. Both working, the price was around 8 eur shipped for each.

They are both missing an capacitor near memory chips. But they should be working nicely none the less.

Requests are also possible... /msg kixs

Reply 9518 of 52929, by kixs

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philscomputerlab wrote:
:exclamation: That's awesome! […]
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Skyscraper wrote:

I could not resist this system.

The price was 49 euro + 17 euro shipping, the auction was set to auto accept offers as it says "Best offer accepted" so I could probably got it even cheaper but I didnt want to wait those extra seconds...
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😲 That's awesome!

The 33 MHz model was my very first computer. *sniffle*

Had that hard drive bay, came with DOS and Windows. I loved that machine. Sold it to upgrade to a 486.

If you clean it / take it apart, please take some pictures.

Here are some pics of a similar case:

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Requests are also possible... /msg kixs

Reply 9519 of 52929, by boxpressed

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Cracked open a NIB sound card from 1998 today: the Silicom Wavemaster 64FGP. I just bought this off an Amazon seller for $20 shipped. I usually keep sealed things sealed, but I actually wanted to test this card. Lately I've been collecting ISA cards with onboard GM synth banks, and the Wavemaster 64FGP has a modest AdMOS QDSP QS1000 patch set (0.5MB, I believe). Opti 931 chipset. The last sound card whose retail box I removed the shrinkwrap from was my Turtle Beach Montego in the late 90s!

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