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Reply 10760 of 47823, by Lukeno94

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Hi, just found this card:

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It seems in good shape but... what kind of card it is? 😅
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From what I can see, Sangoma Technologies are a VOIP firm from Canada, which does tally up with the "made in Canada" label. The V3 chip appears to be some kind of I2O PCI chip. So my guess is that it's some kind of communications card, but...

Reply 10761 of 47823, by Lukeno94

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Double post, but I recently got a job lot of six laptops for £12 posted (thanks to a Nectar voucher). Two of them are Core Duo/C2D era ones, so probably of no interest here. However, these are the other ones:

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This is a Pico N340S8 - a rebadged Samsung VM8000 or something along those lines. No idea who Pico are, and can't really find anything on them on the web. It's fitted with a full desktop 1 GHz PIII Coppermine with a 133 MHz FSB, and a pretty standard SiS 630E chipset. It's missing the battery, but otherwise it works perfectly; I have ordered a replacement screen due to there being some thunderbugs inside it. The desktop PIII runs cooler in this laptop than the laptop equivalents did, as long as you don't block the fan underneath (although the fan does run constantly)! Something else worthy of note is the fact you can use Tulatin CPUs with this system if you find one of the slightly different Tulatin-spec coolers.

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Compaq Evo N1015v; it has an Athlon XP 2000+ CPU and an ATI/ALi chipset combination. The battery is dead but it otherwise seems to work fine; haven't set it up yet as I need the HDD caddy, otherwise the HDD flops out of its home dangerously.

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Toshiba Satellite Pro 460CDX. It has a 166 MHz Pentium MMX CPU, but I have no idea about the chipset. It is missing a battery and HDD caddy (standard IDE connector seems to be built in at the back), and although it powers fine when no HDD is fitted, fitting one produces an orange blinking power light for some reason - any ideas?

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HP Omnibook 2000CT. I believe it uses a 133 MHz Pentium MMX CPU, but I've not yet tested it due to not having a charger with the correct polarity. It's missing the battery but is otherwise basically complete, bar the lack of a HDD (as for all of the systems).

Reply 10762 of 47823, by nforce4max

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I just bought this motherboard with CPU for 17 euro with free shipping! 😀

Lets play name the motherboard!

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Hmm... I'm suspecting socket 4, maybe 5. Built in SCSI, Ethernet and PCI-X suggests server board. Very early ATX by the looks of it and SDRAM would also have been very new. Pipeline burst cache would also have been advanced for the time and the ISA slot is there for compatibility. These are Sun Microsystems levels of engineering right here! Would have been a very expensive system at the time. Is this a well-known board then? I'm wildly speculating.

Too new for socket 4 and certainly something odd, I know socket 4 well enough to know that they never had the use of 64 bit pci and sdram. If you look closely you can see there are some smd caps along the edge of the cpu just beneath the cooler...

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Reply 10763 of 47823, by Skyscraper

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nforce4max wrote:
brassicGamer wrote:
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I just bought this motherboard with CPU for 17 euro with free shipping! 😀

Lets play name the motherboard!

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Hmm... I'm suspecting socket 4, maybe 5. Built in SCSI, Ethernet and PCI-X suggests server board. Very early ATX by the looks of it and SDRAM would also have been very new. Pipeline burst cache would also have been advanced for the time and the ISA slot is there for compatibility. These are Sun Microsystems levels of engineering right here! Would have been a very expensive system at the time. Is this a well-known board then? I'm wildly speculating.

Too new for socket 4 and certainly something odd, I know socket 4 well enough to know that they never had the use of 64 bit pci and sdram. If you look closely you can see there are some smd caps along the edge of the cpu just beneath the cooler...

Those SMD caps are probably key to indentifying the board, or at least what type of CPU it uses. 😀

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Reply 10764 of 47823, by HighTreason

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It looks as though this will be the heart of my DOS Web Server;
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I wanted an excuse to put an ISA Only 486 together for a while despite having no major use for one and I've given up on EISA for a few more months when I will try again if I can be bothered. This should be a fairly straight forward build and might not even get a case. Tempted to try out that Weitek socket if I ever get a chance but probably never will because I would have no real use for it. Either way, it was a toss-up between this and a similar ASUS board (Which is still on eBay) but this one was cheaper and I have 8MB of RAM for it (The ASUS came with 8MB), it seems like a nice motherboard. The onboard IDE really sold it for me as I don't want to spend much money on this (Preferably less than £50 total) and I'm not actually sure the one Host Adapter I have left spare actually works properly. Not sure of the CPU speed, but I'd guess 25-33Mhz... Whatever, fast enough and not hard to replace with a DX2 if I do need more power for some reason. Power consumption should be pretty low as I plan on using a solid state storage solution; CF Cards.

I was going to use a 386SX for this purpose, but they actually cost more at the moment. I only looked at 486 boards on the off-chance I could find an ISA Only one cheap, indeed, they don't seem to have gone up as much as the PCI / VLB boards out there. Part of me thinks it would be more of a novelty to do this with a 386, but at the same time, 486 is my platform, so this is probably more fitting anyway.

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Reply 10765 of 47823, by havli

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Those SMD caps are probably key to indentifying the board, or at least what type of CPU it uses. 😀

CPU is most likely DEC Alpha and your MB is very similar to this... http://www.diane-neisius.de/alpha_vax/index_E.html 😀

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Reply 10766 of 47823, by Skyscraper

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havli wrote:
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Those SMD caps are probably key to indentifying the board, or at least what type of CPU it uses. 😀

CPU is most likely DEC Alpha and your MB is very similar to this... http://www.diane-neisius.de/alpha_vax/index_E.html 😀

That is good enough! 😀 The board is a Samsung MB164UX/BX and the CPU is a DEC Alpha 533 MHz, probably a 21164 like the one pictured in your link.

The board is made for running Windows NT4 and Linux/Unix so it does not have a BIOS suitable for running more DEC Alpha specific OSes. This dosnt bother me at all, I will probably run NT4.

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Reply 10767 of 47823, by hyoenmadan

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The board is made for running Windows NT4 and Linux/Unix so it does not have a BIOS suitable for running more DEC Alpha specific OSes. This dosnt bother me at all, I will probably run NT4.

Who said it doesn't? If i remember well, firmware in these boards can change from AlphaBIOS (Microsoft ARC) to the more Unix-ish SRM console suitable to boot DEC OSF based stuff, on the fly. Is matter to read manual and play with board parameters.

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I envy you guys who can play live with RISC stuff... Here in my country we have only x86 post-Pentium era stuff to play, and most of it is PCChips crap. From RISC stuff, ATX Alpha boards are best ones to play, as them are pretty flexible in configuration and devices them can accept, only followed by Motorola PowerStack boards in this aspect, but ofc in a more expensive presentation. This is due DEC wanting "white box" assemblers to make "white box" Alpha PCs at time when DEC was in a deep financial problem. With this board you can plug any Video Adapter and SCSI controller from that era, and the board will boot their ROMS and configure them using a built-in BIOS emulator bundled in firmware. OSs will use them to full, proving that your have alpha compiled drivers for your OS.

Reply 10768 of 47823, by Skyscraper

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hyoenmadan wrote:
Who said it doesn't? If i remember well, firmware in these boards can change from AlphaBIOS (Microsoft ARC) to the more Unix-ish […]
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The board is made for running Windows NT4 and Linux/Unix so it does not have a BIOS suitable for running more DEC Alpha specific OSes. This dosnt bother me at all, I will probably run NT4.

Who said it doesn't? If i remember well, firmware in these boards can change from AlphaBIOS (Microsoft ARC) to the more Unix-ish SRM console suitable to boot DEC OSF based stuff, on the fly. Is matter to read manual and play with board parameters.

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I envy you guys who can play live with RISC stuff... Here in my country we have only x86 post-Pentium era stuff to play, and most of it is PCChips crap. From RISC stuff, ATX Alpha boards are best ones to play, as them are pretty flexible in configuration and devices them can accept, only followed by Motorola PowerStack boards in this aspect, but ofc in a more expensive presentation. This is due DEC wanting "white box" assemblers to make "white box" Alpha PCs at time when DEC was in a deep financial problem. With this board you can plug any Video Adapter and SCSI controller from that era, and the board will boot their ROMS and configure them using a built-in BIOS emulator bundled in firmware. OSs will use them to full, proving that your have alpha compiled drivers for your OS.

Well a BIOS probably exists but this board dosnt have it installed as the seller wrote in his ad that the board would only work with NT4 and Linux/Unix.

Alpha stuff is not rare in Sweden but not very common either.

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Reply 10770 of 47823, by HunterZ

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I wished I'd had one of those EMS boards in my 8MHz Wyse 286 in the early 1990s. I accidentally wiped out my 20MB MFM HDD once trying to create disk-based RAM in order to be able to hear the talking in the intro of the floppy version of X-Wing!

What kind of machine did you put it in?

Reply 10771 of 47823, by matze79

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http://www.dosforum.de/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=9935
In this one, currently 😀

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Reply 10772 of 47823, by kithylin

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HighTreason wrote:
It looks as though this will be the heart of my DOS Web Server; <snip> […]
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It looks as though this will be the heart of my DOS Web Server;
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I wanted an excuse to put an ISA Only 486 together for a while despite having no major use for one and I've given up on EISA for a few more months when I will try again if I can be bothered. This should be a fairly straight forward build and might not even get a case. Tempted to try out that Weitek socket if I ever get a chance but probably never will because I would have no real use for it. Either way, it was a toss-up between this and a similar ASUS board (Which is still on eBay) but this one was cheaper and I have 8MB of RAM for it (The ASUS came with 8MB), it seems like a nice motherboard. The onboard IDE really sold it for me as I don't want to spend much money on this (Preferably less than £50 total) and I'm not actually sure the one Host Adapter I have left spare actually works properly. Not sure of the CPU speed, but I'd guess 25-33Mhz... Whatever, fast enough and not hard to replace with a DX2 if I do need more power for some reason. Power consumption should be pretty low as I plan on using a solid state storage solution; CF Cards.

I was going to use a 386SX for this purpose, but they actually cost more at the moment. I only looked at 486 boards on the off-chance I could find an ISA Only one cheap, indeed, they don't seem to have gone up as much as the PCI / VLB boards out there. Part of me thinks it would be more of a novelty to do this with a 386, but at the same time, 486 is my platform, so this is probably more fitting anyway.

I wanted to use my 486-133 system for a server for a long time and toyed with it at one point for novelty's sake. I put debian linux on it, and even photo'd it and made a little "This machine is hosted by a 486 in 2016" website about it and had it running. But then one day I decided to put it in through a kill-a-watt and realized it was using nearly 175 watts just sitting there idle.

Which brought me to the realization that.. having to pay for our own power, I can't do this. If I needed something as a "server", a Pentium-III @ 1.2 ghz would do the same thing faster at roughly 40 watts with a modern gold tier atx power supply. OR a modern 1.7 ghz dual-cpu atom board would do the same thing at 18 watts.

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As an iconic American rapper Ice Cube once rapped.. "Today was a good day" :cool: :cool: […]
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As an iconic American rapper Ice Cube once rapped.. "Today was a good day" 😎 😎

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Reply 10774 of 47823, by Artex

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Stiletto wrote:

Kinda hating on you right now... but it's a good-natured hate. 🤣

Haha! Thanks! I think... 😉

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Reply 10775 of 47823, by luckybob

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Stiletto wrote:

Kinda hating on you right now... but it's a good-natured hate. 🤣

It's the same kind of hate I feel when someone posts about having Google fiber.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 10776 of 47823, by nforce4max

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luckybob wrote:
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Kinda hating on you right now... but it's a good-natured hate. 🤣

It's the same kind of hate I feel when someone posts about having Google fiber.

OMG yes especially when I get packet loss and can't play world of tanks 😵
Amazing that I haven't smashed any keyboards yet. 😲

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Reply 10778 of 47823, by luckybob

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Kodai wrote:

Are you gonna water cool that bad boy?

DO IT!

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Reply 10779 of 47823, by TheMobRules

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Artex wrote:
As an iconic American rapper Ice Cube once rapped.. "Today was a good day" :cool: :cool: […]
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As an iconic American rapper Ice Cube once rapped.. "Today was a good day" 😎 😎

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Wow! Now that's something you don't see very often. Congrats!! It's well worth selling your soul (or a kidney) for that thing. 🤣

I always wondered how loud that quad-fan cooling solution was...

One question: that connector next to the VGA output was originally planned to use an external power adapter right? Voodoo Volts:

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Does any of the V5 6000 cards out there come with the external adapter? All the lucky owners of those cards I've seen seem to have that Molex thingy like yours...