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Reply 17120 of 38344, by Carlos S. M.

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Picked up this lot on eBay. From top left to right. […]
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Picked up this lot on eBay. From top left to right.

Asus Mach64 PCI
Diamond Stealth S3 Trio64
STB Nitro S3 VirgeGX
OEM TNT2 m64 AGP (not really interesting)
Number Nine S3 Trio with a weird IBM chip in it
ATI Mach32 PCI
OEM Cirrus Logic ISA
ATI Mach64 PCI with memory upgrade slots

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The number nine card with the IBM chip is not a Trio64, is an S3 Vision968

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Socket 423/478 Motherboards with Universal AGP Slot
Socket 478 Motherboards with PCI-E Slots
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Experiences and thoughts with Socket 423 systems

Reply 17121 of 38344, by dexvx

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Carlos S. M. wrote:

The number nine card with the IBM chip is not a Trio64, is an S3 Vision968

Yes, you're right. I guess they were pre-Trio.

Anyone know why the Asus Mach64 is so tiny and the other one huge in comparison?

Reply 17124 of 38344, by Carlos S. M.

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dexvx wrote:
Carlos S. M. wrote:

The number nine card with the IBM chip is not a Trio64, is an S3 Vision968

Yes, you're right. I guess they were pre-Trio.

Anyone know why the Asus Mach64 is so tiny and the other one huge in comparison?

These are two different Mach64 cards, the ASUS one is an ASUS Mach64 CT which is a cost reduced version with integrated Ramdac version of the Mach64, the larger card is a Mach64 GX with it's external RAMDAC

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Socket 423/478 Motherboards with Universal AGP Slot
Socket 478 Motherboards with PCI-E Slots
LGA 775 Motherboards with AGP Slots
Experiences and thoughts with Socket 423 systems

Reply 17125 of 38344, by Batyra

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I haven't seen it here for quite a long time... My collection has just been strengthened by Ensoniq Soundscape Elite... I've got also double daughterboard.

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Reply 17126 of 38344, by luckybob

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dexvx wrote:
Carlos S. M. wrote:

The number nine card with the IBM chip is not a Trio64, is an S3 Vision968

Yes, you're right. I guess they were pre-Trio.

Anyone know why the Asus Mach64 is so tiny and the other one huge in comparison?

Integrated Ramdac is the most likely answer.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 17128 of 38344, by Qjimbo

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Found these at the Freegeek thrift store in Vancouver.

Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS - $10

Both these cards were untested at the store so they were discounted - so far I've tested the 6800 GT and it works fine:
Geforce 6800 GT 256MB AGP - $5
Geforce 7600 GS 256MB AGP Silent - $5

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Reply 17129 of 38344, by Batyra

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Never too few GUS in my collection... Just got info I've managed to buy a clone... more it'a a clone's-clone... UltiSound that is clone of Primax M-16B which is a clone of GUS classic... of course boxed! 😎
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Reply 17130 of 38344, by Almoststew1990

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This week I sold about £15 worth of kit on eBay. I then saw a 'spare parts' job lot, starting bid of £15 delivered, and bid on i […]
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This week I sold about £15 worth of kit on eBay. I then saw a 'spare parts' job lot, starting bid of £15 delivered, and bid on it not expecting to get it. Aaaaand I won it as the only bidder 😒 !

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Eugh... I can probably cobble together on working PC from this load of junk.... Right? Right guys?

It looks to be a 478 board (or maybe 423 I support, I've never actually seen one?) in the top left;
Reasonably late AGP GPU in the bottom left- any ideas what this is?
Slightly intrigued by the green GPU in the centre- looks a bit like my TNT2 actually..
There is a stick of SDRAM in the centre which suggests one of the boards might be older than S478

Well my pile of junk arrived today. Will the Gods of "used when pulled from a working machine" eBaying shine on me? Or will it be all be faulty pile of poo?

Things didn't start off very well when 'fragile' box arrived rather squished...
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Although the seller had at least wrapped it well:
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The first of the main bits; a S478 motherboard, clearly cherished by a loving previous owner:
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It has a P4 3.00GHz, forgot to get the 5 digit intel code though!

Mystery motherboard. I can't find a model number on it, unless it is literally "Dublin" ? Much cleaner than the last.
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This had a Socket 478 1.8GHz P4, and uses SDRAM. I also forgot to get the 5 digit intel code on this, but I remember it being an '01 chip at 1.75volts. Must be an early one!

GPU 1 turned out to be a 5700FX, points to the person who correctly identified it in this thread a few pages back! Again, it was so dirty I'm pretty sure I caught the bubonic plague cleaning it. The dust compacted into almost a cardboard like texture and had to be pulled out with my tweazers (.
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GPU 2 turned out to be... I don't know! I Have a feeling it is a GeForce 2MX? No stickers on it and I can't get the enthusiasm to take the heatsink off just yet as I dislike pushpins. Much cleaner, and likely paired with the cleaner motherboard, given their likely close ages. I'll run GPU-Z later...
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I also got, as advertised, a load of cables, IDE CD and DVD drives, a 2.5" SATA 80GB HDD, 60GB 3.5" IDE HDD, a PCI modem, a busted and a relatively complete Fujitsu Siemens laptop apiece, 2 powersupplies (both of which work quietly and appear clean, weirdly). The cooler for the other 478 board was present, as was 256MB of PC133 SDRAM for the older board.

Optimistically I cobbled a bunch of it together (instead of being sensible and using a known PSU and GPU) and tried the clean motherboard, after applying some fresh thermal paste. It booted first time, which was a nice surprise!
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After cleaning the other board, I gave that a go with the other PSU. This also works fine, although the fan on the 5700FX is busted, very rattle-y and I guess a bearing is 'broken'. Easy enough to replace if I can find a suitable fan! It uses a simple two pushpin mount, hopefully shared by a lot of Nvidia GPUs of this era?

The 60GB IDE HDD Harddrive came with Windows 7 installed with a few enterprise-y programs, I guess for the stockmarket or something. It's lucky I'm not some kind of datathief!

Overall, I'd say that's a resounding success for an untested ebay job lot!

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Reply 17131 of 38344, by cj_reha

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A computer shop roughly an hour from my house was closing its doors for good and they were having a liquidation sale. The guy was pulling stuff out of the back to put out for either 75 percent off or free as I browsed the stuff 🤣

In the end I got two boxes full of parts, 3 towers (Compaq ME tower, shell of a Dell XPS and a generic XP machine) and a Gateway 2000 CRT monitor for 60 bucks 😁

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Reply 17132 of 38344, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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A computer shop roughly an hour from my house was closing its doors for good and they were having a liquidation sale. The guy was pulling stuff out of the back to put out for either 75 percent off or free as I browsed the stuff 🤣

In the end I got two boxes full of parts, 3 towers (Compaq ME tower, shell of a Dell XPS and a generic XP machine) and a Gateway 2000 CRT monitor for 60 bucks 😁

60 for all 3 machines and the monitor or 60 for the monitor? If you paid 60 for a CRT that's insane unless there's something special about it. My Max is about 20 for CRTs, and that for 19"s @ 1600x1200 or greater. Anythink below a 17" I pass up unless it's free. No excuse to be paying out the ass for used CRTs... Yet.

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Reply 17133 of 38344, by dexvx

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I had another lot of stuff arrive today. Too lazy to spread them nicely for a photo. Going to sell some duplicates on eBay and tossing some unsellables (mainly the modem/laptop stuff).

2x 3com ISA Etherlink III's (10/BNC)
1x 3Com 905B (10/100)
2x D-Link PCI NIC (10/BNC and 10)
1x Linksys ISA NIC (10/BNC) still NIB
2x PCI 802.11b Wifi. Tossing these.

1x Radeon 9600SE AGP.
1x eVGA GF4 MX440 AGP, still has the tag attached to it.
1x TNT2 M64 AGP.
2x Matrox MIL2P/4N PCI.
1x Ensoniq Voodoo Banshee AGP.
1x Trident Blade 8890 PCI
4x S3 Trio64 cards, IBM OEM, Some OEM, Diamond, RealMagic (labeled as RealMagic 64/GX)
1x Trident 8900 ISA.

SB Live 5.1 SB0010.
Some PCI/USB Card. May Toss.
Some PCI/Firewire Card. May Toss.

Some 56K PCI Modems. Tossing these.
Some CardAdapter for laptop. Tossing those as well.

Reply 17134 of 38344, by cj_reha

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Better picture of today's haul. 😁 Gonna edit this post later with an inventory, not done sifting through the stuff yet. 🤣

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A computer shop roughly an hour from my house was closing its doors for good and they were having a liquidation sale. The guy was pulling stuff out of the back to put out for either 75 percent off or free as I browsed the stuff 🤣

In the end I got two boxes full of parts, 3 towers (Compaq ME tower, shell of a Dell XPS and a generic XP machine) and a Gateway 2000 CRT monitor for 60 bucks 😁

60 for all 3 machines and the monitor or 60 for the monitor? If you paid 60 for a CRT that's insane unless there's something special about it. My Max is about 20 for CRTs, and that for 19"s @ 1600x1200 or greater. Anythink below a 17" I pass up unless it's free. No excuse to be paying out the ass for used CRTs... Yet.

The $60 went to the big box of video/NIC/etc cards actually. The monitor was free, along with the towers. He was gonna toss them, but gave them to me after I convinced him to dig them out of the back 🤣

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Reply 17135 of 38344, by gbeirn

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Saved 8 200MHz 1MB Pentium Pro chips from being scrap. Will straighten all pins and test overclocking and keep 1 or 2 of the best and resell the rest. $97 shipped.

Reply 17136 of 38344, by infiniteclouds

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Picked up this brand new Gravis for cheap - I had yet to play any of my 3D Realms Anthology outside of Duke3D -- time to see how PC platformers measured up against NES/SNES/Genesis.
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Also still in the shrinkwrap --
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Made in USA?! Anyhow I read good things about this stick here on Vogons and since I somewhat recently discovered how much fun the Wing Commander and X-Wing/Tie Fighter series are I thought it was worth getting.

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Reply 17137 of 38344, by elod

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Made in USA?!

I also got a (then) unidentified stick from the fleamarket just because it said USA on it and was built like a tank. Turned out to be an older CH than yours.

Reply 17138 of 38344, by Jade Falcon

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:
cj_reha wrote:

A computer shop roughly an hour from my house was closing its doors for good and they were having a liquidation sale. The guy was pulling stuff out of the back to put out for either 75 percent off or free as I browsed the stuff 🤣

In the end I got two boxes full of parts, 3 towers (Compaq ME tower, shell of a Dell XPS and a generic XP machine) and a Gateway 2000 CRT monitor for 60 bucks 😁

60 for all 3 machines and the monitor or 60 for the monitor? If you paid 60 for a CRT that's insane unless there's something special about it. My Max is about 20 for CRTs, and that for 19"s @ 1600x1200 or greater. Anythink below a 17" I pass up unless it's free. No excuse to be paying out the ass for used CRTs... Yet.

Sounds like he got it all for 60$
And I'd take it you never had a nice crt or calibrated a crt. Definitely worth paying for a lot of crts. I paid over 100$ for my diamond pro. But a good chunk was shipping.

Reply 17139 of 38344, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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Jade Falcon wrote:
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cj_reha wrote:

A computer shop roughly an hour from my house was closing its doors for good and they were having a liquidation sale. The guy was pulling stuff out of the back to put out for either 75 percent off or free as I browsed the stuff 🤣

In the end I got two boxes full of parts, 3 towers (Compaq ME tower, shell of a Dell XPS and a generic XP machine) and a Gateway 2000 CRT monitor for 60 bucks 😁

60 for all 3 machines and the monitor or 60 for the monitor? If you paid 60 for a CRT that's insane unless there's something special about it. My Max is about 20 for CRTs, and that for 19"s @ 1600x1200 or greater. Anythink below a 17" I pass up unless it's free. No excuse to be paying out the ass for used CRTs... Yet.

Sounds like he got it all for 60$
And I'd take it you never had a nice crt or calibrated a crt. Definitely worth paying for a lot of crts. I paid over 100$ for my diamond pro. But a good chunk was shipping.

I'm talking average stuff and local. I'd gladly consider paying more for a CRT that's using a high end tube (Trinitron on similar) and has been adjusted by a professional or expert. I'd probably be willing to pay 80 for a good 19" if it meets those conditions. Possibly more when we start talking about the top top stuff. When something is local, probably has a fair amount of wear to it, will most likely need adjustment, and has likely been sitting for an unknown amount of time I have to factor all this in.

I can infact align and adjust a CRT myself though. It isn't rocket science. I have to align my KDS XF7b every couple of months.

Right now I own:

Gateway2000 EV700 17" (My favorite and IMO best)
KDS XF7b 17" (Flat glass)
Compaq S5500 15" (Not my favorite but compact)
1989 AST VGA (Ancient, had manual adjustment knobs for everything)

I also have 2 CRT Macintoshs (eMac and iMac G3 Bondi Blue) and I hate the displays on both. I also have an 27" RCA TruFlat with component for my vintage console gaminf/TV watching needs.

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