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Reply 17340 of 46474, by brostenen

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Bought this today.....

It has all the cables, the powersupply, mouse, two "the arcade" joysticks, a full box of disks, original manuals and an extra external floppy drive. Really looking forward to play some games on it.

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Well done sir.

My Amiga 1200 is alive and well. Here in Swindon, UK is the 'South West' Amiga Meet which I'm attending tomorrow.

My A1200 has a 4GB CF Upgarde, a gotek floppy adapter and the ACA 1221 upgrade with 'round the world' unlock.

Thanks.
I would have loved to get an 1200, though the price on them are something that makes them unobtainable.
I can get one here in Denmark for a price between 420 and 510 US Dollars. The cheapest being extremely yellow.
That is more than twice the price of an 600 these days. So I kind of envy you for having an 1200.
The 600 was not cheap at all. I did pay a high price for it, though it is the best I can do at the moment.
So... I am forced to put stuff up for sale now. In order to raise money now. 🙁

BTW... What would an old IBM Thinkpad with a Pentium133 be worth these days? (model: 365x - 2625)

Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 17341 of 46474, by appiah4

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A1200s seem to have gotten kind of expensive of late. I have an A500 with an ACA500plus accelerator (68000@42MHz, 8MB Ram, CF Hard Drive) running WB3.1 and I love it. It's my favorite retro system. Wouldn't change it for anything in the world.. Amiga is magic.

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Reply 17342 of 46474, by CkRtech

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Man. I have wanted to dive into Amiga for years but keep waiting on the right deal to come along (Ideally a local deal to bypass shipping worries).

Had some DARN good luck at the recycle center today. Voodoo 2 "3.0" (110MHz RAM?) and a Creative Labs Riva TNT2 Ultra (not pictured).

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Reply 17343 of 46474, by brostenen

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CkRtech wrote:

Had some DARN good luck at the recycle center today. Voodoo 2 "3.0" (110MHz RAM?) and a Creative Labs Riva TNT2 Ultra (not pictured).

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Sweet.... Congrats. 😀

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Man. I have wanted to dive into Amiga for years but keep waiting on the right deal to come along (Ideally a local deal to bypass shipping worries).

They are nice systems, no doubt about that. It's the years between 1987 to 1992 that are the golden ones.
Once you get to something like a P1-166, the PC just shines compared to Amiga.
Still... Some early 90's games are just better on the PC and then the other way around.

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Reply 17344 of 46474, by NamelessPlayer

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One of these days, I'm gonna have an A1200 or A4000 in my collection... but they just cost way too much, like "I'm gonna start shopping for X68030s instead" way too much! 'Til then, it's UAE for me.

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They are nice systems, no doubt about that. It's the years between 1987 to 1992 that are the golden ones.
Once you get to something like a P1-166, the PC just shines compared to Amiga.
Still... Some early 90's games are just better on the PC and then the other way around.

I think the turning point is roughly 1990.

Just before that, in the late 1980s, there were PC ports of things like Speedball 2 and Cannon Fodder that had the graphics down pat thanks to VGA now being a thing, but the Sound Blaster audio is noticeably downgraded from the Amiga originals - and that's before I even get into how Cannon Fodder had its catchy theme song axed outright!

Hey, it was a step up from Xenon 2's PC speaker limitations, I suppose.

Carrier Command is a mixed bag; the PC version has considerably enhanced enemy AI over the Amiga/Atari ST originals, but PC speaker sound is all you get. AUGH.

But getting into the early 1990s, you start seeing things like Wing Commander and TFX that are clearly superior on PC, and by the time Wolfenstein 3D and Doom hit, it was all over; people who liked computer gaming on the cutting edge had to move to IBM-compatibles, or possibly Macintoshes since the 1990s were the golden years for Mac gaming, with enhanced PC ports. (Well, late 1990s not so much if you like 3D audio...)

It's quite a shame, really. The Amiga was so far ahead of its time, yet displaced by inferior computers. Who knows what computers today would be like if they traced their lineage to the Amiga instead of the lousy IBM 5150 Personal Computer? (Well, barring the hideously expensive AmigaOne X5000 boards! This is more about economies of scale kicking in so that future Amigas don't cost thousands by default.)

Reply 17345 of 46474, by appiah4

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Bought a new old stock via apollo pro at pentium 3 board aska sst 5830.

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An AT p3 board I never saw before.. though I cant seem to find the manual or a patched bios for larger hard drives.

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Reply 17346 of 46474, by sf78

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But getting into the early 1990s, you start seeing things like Wing Commander and TFX that are clearly superior on PC, and by the time Wolfenstein 3D and Doom hit, it was all over; people who liked computer gaming on the cutting edge had to move to IBM-compatibles

I think that most people "matured" from Amiga to PC because Amiga didn't handle simulators and other 3D stuff that well until A1200 and turbo cards arrived and by that time everyone already had a 486. Also many titles from the 90's were either Mega Drive ports or other platformers and shooters which had lost their charm a long time ago if you grew up in the 80's.

It's quite a shame, really. The Amiga was so far ahead of its time, yet displaced by inferior computers.

Yes, indeed it was for a while, but I wouldn't call a faster PC inferior as Commodore pretty much sold the same old machine for 5 years and then wondered why nobody bought it anymore. PC's did struggle with side-scrollers long after Amigas demise, but like I said, most computer users had matured from those simple shooters to more simulator like games and the others bought a console.

Reply 17350 of 46474, by dexvx

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This SiS 486 board just arrived. Does anyone know what it is and have a manual for it? Also, are the AT power connectors plugged in right? I heard it was 2 black ends together.

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Reply 17351 of 46474, by Arctic

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This SiS 486 board just arrived. Does anyone know what it is and have a manual for it? Also, are the AT power connectors plugged […]
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This SiS 486 board just arrived. Does anyone know what it is and have a manual for it? Also, are the AT power connectors plugged in right? I heard it was 2 black ends together.

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I think I found your board: Socket 3 486 VLB Freetech mobo, quick test

Reply 17352 of 46474, by MCGA

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dexvx wrote:

This SiS 486 board just arrived. Does anyone know what it is and have a manual for it? Also, are the AT power connectors plugged in right? I heard it was 2 black ends together.

That looks like my board. Here's a picture from last year showing my power pins -- if it's the same. I'll double check when I get back to see if it's the same all around. I need to open my case. I'm not sure I ever found a manual for it, but I've found drawings showing the mobo-layout( jumper settings, etc. ).

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Reply 17353 of 46474, by dexvx

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Hmm... I think I must've done something wrong when powering it up.

I put in a Trident 8900 ISA, 2x 16MB EDO SIMM, used an ATX -> AT power adapter (with -5V), connected the CPU fan's molex to the PSU. I started it up... the CPU fan starting spinning, but it began to smoke where the two metal tab things right of the CPU (in Arctic's link)....

Did I miss something obvious? I'm going to recheck the jumper settings. But I'm guessing the chances of this board living went down significantly.

Reply 17354 of 46474, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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dexvx wrote:

Hmm... I think I must've done something wrong when powering it up.

I put in a Trident 8900 ISA, 2x 16MB EDO SIMM, used an ATX -> AT power adapter (with -5V), connected the CPU fan's molex to the PSU. I started it up... the CPU fan starting spinning, but it began to smoke where the two metal tab things right of the CPU (in Arctic's link)....

Did I miss something obvious? I'm going to recheck the jumper settings. But I'm guessing the chances of this board living went down significantly.

See if it posts without the fan. A 486 should be fine for a couple of minutes with out it.

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Reply 17355 of 46474, by dexvx

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dexvx wrote:

Hmm... I think I must've done something wrong when powering it up.

I put in a Trident 8900 ISA, 2x 16MB EDO SIMM, used an ATX -> AT power adapter (with -5V), connected the CPU fan's molex to the PSU. I started it up... the CPU fan starting spinning, but it began to smoke where the two metal tab things right of the CPU (in Arctic's link)....

Did I miss something obvious? I'm going to recheck the jumper settings. But I'm guessing the chances of this board living went down significantly.

See if it posts without the fan. A 486 should be fine for a couple of minutes with out it.

I think my bigger concern is why the hell it was smoking. It smelled of burnt metal.

Reply 17357 of 46474, by TheMobRules

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dexvx wrote:

Hmm... I think I must've done something wrong when powering it up.

I put in a Trident 8900 ISA, 2x 16MB EDO SIMM, used an ATX -> AT power adapter (with -5V), connected the CPU fan's molex to the PSU. I started it up... the CPU fan starting spinning, but it began to smoke where the two metal tab things right of the CPU (in Arctic's link)....

Did I miss something obvious? I'm going to recheck the jumper settings. But I'm guessing the chances of this board living went down significantly.

By "metal tab things" you mean the voltage regulators? i.e. the three-legged components with a hole in the metal tab? If those have burned out then I don't think you will be able to use the CPU unless you replace them (3.3V for sure, though 5V CPUs may still work).

Also, I don't think that board can take EDO RAM, only FPM.

Reply 17358 of 46474, by dexvx

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TheMobRules wrote:
dexvx wrote:

Hmm... I think I must've done something wrong when powering it up.

I put in a Trident 8900 ISA, 2x 16MB EDO SIMM, used an ATX -> AT power adapter (with -5V), connected the CPU fan's molex to the PSU. I started it up... the CPU fan starting spinning, but it began to smoke where the two metal tab things right of the CPU (in Arctic's link)....

Did I miss something obvious? I'm going to recheck the jumper settings. But I'm guessing the chances of this board living went down significantly.

By "metal tab things" you mean the voltage regulators? i.e. the three-legged components with a hole in the metal tab? If those have burned out then I don't think you will be able to use the CPU unless you replace them (3.3V for sure, though 5V CPUs may still work).

Also, I don't think that board can take EDO RAM, only FPM.

Yes, I suppose it was smoke around the VRM area. I popped the CPU out to take a look. Looks like one of the bins are black and there are 2 pins that are burnt. Not really sure what I did wrong here. Sigh.

Reply 17359 of 46474, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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dexvx wrote:
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dexvx wrote:

Hmm... I think I must've done something wrong when powering it up.

I put in a Trident 8900 ISA, 2x 16MB EDO SIMM, used an ATX -> AT power adapter (with -5V), connected the CPU fan's molex to the PSU. I started it up... the CPU fan starting spinning, but it began to smoke where the two metal tab things right of the CPU (in Arctic's link)....

Did I miss something obvious? I'm going to recheck the jumper settings. But I'm guessing the chances of this board living went down significantly.

By "metal tab things" you mean the voltage regulators? i.e. the three-legged components with a hole in the metal tab? If those have burned out then I don't think you will be able to use the CPU unless you replace them (3.3V for sure, though 5V CPUs may still work).

Also, I don't think that board can take EDO RAM, only FPM.

Yes, I suppose it was smoke around the VRM area. I popped the CPU out to take a look. Looks like one of the bins are black and there are 2 pins that are burnt. Not really sure what I did wrong here. Sigh.

Uh wasn't it possible to install 486s rotated wrong or something? I remember someone saying some shady eBay seller was doing that to cause boards to die as soon as people got them a while back.

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