Bought on a flea market yesterday:
P5sb in near mint condition
P5ab in bad shape, but in recoverable condition
A couple of never used serial mouses
A never used dtk mechanical keyboard

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Bought on a flea market yesterday:
P5sb in near mint condition
P5ab in bad shape, but in recoverable condition
A couple of never used serial mouses
A never used dtk mechanical keyboard

Looks like the P5AB board (the one next to the mouse, right?) needs a new keyboard port since it looks like someone wiggled the port forcefully.

overdrive333 wrote:

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

overdrive333 wrote:

3$ on local flea market . Can't test it as fas as voltage in my country is 220v. Need 220v->120v converter.

The 3DO.... Oh God *throws up*

Worst console ever 🤣

That's a funny way to say "Apple/Bandai Pippin" or "Casio Loopy". Can't name a single good game on those things.

The 3DO got a spiffy port of Star Control 2, which automatically disqualifies it from "worst console ever", along with a few other notable titles (Return Fire, Road Rash, Super Wing Commander, a port of Flying Nightmares with enhanced graphics over the Mac original). There's probably more I haven't looked into yet due to library overlap with other platforms.

It's just that Panasonic overpriced their 3DO model significantly ($800 makes 599 US DOLLARS seem afforable already!), theirs was the first, and as a result, people make the mistake of assuming the 3DO is specifically a Panasonic console when it was more akin to the MSX in terms of being a platform specification that anyone can produce. That's why there were cheaper Goldstar (now LG) 3DO consoles, as well as the Creative 3DO Blaster for PCs.

EDIT: Well, cripes, I hadn't refreshed and saw all the replies posted since. Might as well respond to this set of posts as well.

appiah4 wrote:

dirkmirk wrote:

Really? I thought the AWE64 GOLD had a superior wavetable to the value edition, learn something new everyday, for most practical purposes theirs no real advantage with the gold card?

In Win9x Gold can use up to 4MB Soundfonts for its software synthesizer whereas the Value can use 512K so in effect in Windows the Gold can run as if it has a 4MB Wavetable. For DOS, this makes no difference since the tools used to load soundfonts take up too much memory.. However, for Win9x I much prefer a Live! card paired with an ISA card that has true OPL3, but that's me..

If you get one of those SIMMCONN adapters, you can expand that to 28 MB effective with a 32 MB SIMM on either card and close the gap since they both have the EMU8000 wavetable synthesizer, but it's more of a pain to try and find one of those than it is to just get 30-pin SIMMs for an AWE32 with standard RAM slots.

The AWE64 Gold is sought after because of the improved SNR, and possibly also its S/PDIF output supporting digital audio samples so you can just connect a much more modern, cleaner DAC with much better SNR than the AWE64 itself can muster. However, no AWE64 has genuine OPL3 like earlier AWE32s do. It's a tradeoff.

Have got this old nvidia card.

Don't know if it's really useful for my K6-2 time maschine... 😐

Depends of which card you have at the moment. If your card is just an ATi rage 2 for example, this would be definitely better. However if you've got a Voodoo banshee, a voodoo 3 card, an ATi Rage, etc ... this card would be useless. It is said to be as powerful as the voodoo 1 (while not supporting glide of course)

One funny thing to note : I've got an STB riva 128. If I install the official Nvidia drivers, it gets a score 3 times lower in 3dmark 99 than if I use my original STB drivers. I uploaded this driver disk on the internet. I wonder if it works with other brands ...

kithylin wrote:

oeuvre wrote:

This NMB keyboard... shame the DIN to PS/2 adapter isn't here yet.

I was curious about those. Are they actually mechanical keyboards? Or just clickity-sounding rubber-dome ones?

Got the AT to PS/2 adapter and typing on it right now. It is a bit loud and the keys are a bit harder to press than most rubber domes. Not sure if it is due to age or whatever but it is in very good shape and is quite nice. The key caps are slightly smaller than what I am used to.

Deksor wrote:

Depends of which card you have at the moment. If your card is just an ATi rage 2 for example, this would be definitely better. However if you've got a Voodoo banshee, a voodoo 3 card, an ATi Rage, etc ... this card would be useless. It is said to be as powerful as the voodoo 1 (while not supporting glide of course)

???

I meant rage 128, sorry for that X)

NamelessPlayer wrote:

appiah4 wrote:

In Win9x Gold can use up to 4MB Soundfonts for its software synthesizer whereas the Value can use 512K so in effect in Windows the Gold can run as if it has a 4MB Wavetable. For DOS, this makes no difference since the tools used to load soundfonts take up too much memory.. However, for Win9x I much prefer a Live! card paired with an ISA card that has true OPL3, but that's me..

If you get one of those SIMMCONN adapters, you can expand that to 28 MB effective with a 32 MB SIMM on either card and close the gap since they both have the EMU8000 wavetable synthesizer, but it's more of a pain to try and find one of those than it is to just get 30-pin SIMMs for an AWE32 with standard RAM slots.

The AWE64 Gold is sought after because of the improved SNR, and possibly also its S/PDIF output supporting digital audio samples so you can just connect a much more modern, cleaner DAC with much better SNR than the AWE64 itself can muster. However, no AWE64 has genuine OPL3 like earlier AWE32s do. It's a tradeoff.

I got a question.
I bought few new sound cards to add to my collection (Yamaha 724E-V + Vortex 2).

My question is : Did I covered everything ?
I mean, with all of ^these, are there any games/programs that will present compatibility problems regardless of what I put in my system ?
I want to add, that my primary focus is on platforms that have PCI ports (ISA is "Plan B").
Thank you.

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NamelessPlayer wrote:

appiah4 wrote:

In Win9x Gold can use up to 4MB Soundfonts for its software synthesizer whereas the Value can use 512K so in effect in Windows the Gold can run as if it has a 4MB Wavetable. For DOS, this makes no difference since the tools used to load soundfonts take up too much memory.. However, for Win9x I much prefer a Live! card paired with an ISA card that has true OPL3, but that's me..

If you get one of those SIMMCONN adapters, you can expand that to 28 MB effective with a 32 MB SIMM on either card and close the gap since they both have the EMU8000 wavetable synthesizer, but it's more of a pain to try and find one of those than it is to just get 30-pin SIMMs for an AWE32 with standard RAM slots.

The AWE64 Gold is sought after because of the improved SNR, and possibly also its S/PDIF output supporting digital audio samples so you can just connect a much more modern, cleaner DAC with much better SNR than the AWE64 itself can muster. However, no AWE64 has genuine OPL3 like earlier AWE32s do. It's a tradeoff.

I got a question.
I bought few new sound cards to add to my collection (Yamaha 724E-V + Vortex 2).

Sound not only Blaster.jpg

My question is : Did I covered everything ?
I mean, with all of ^these, are there any games/programs that will present compatibility problems regardless of what I put in my system ?
I want to add, that my primary focus is on platforms that have PCI ports (ISA is "Plan B").
Thank you.

You won't have Stereo Support in SB Pro 2 mode on your SB16 but otherwise your pretty well set. A first gen Audigy may be a good addition for early EAX3 support.

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NamelessPlayer wrote:

appiah4 wrote:

In Win9x Gold can use up to 4MB Soundfonts for its software synthesizer whereas the Value can use 512K so in effect in Windows the Gold can run as if it has a 4MB Wavetable. For DOS, this makes no difference since the tools used to load soundfonts take up too much memory.. However, for Win9x I much prefer a Live! card paired with an ISA card that has true OPL3, but that's me..

If you get one of those SIMMCONN adapters, you can expand that to 28 MB effective with a 32 MB SIMM on either card and close the gap since they both have the EMU8000 wavetable synthesizer, but it's more of a pain to try and find one of those than it is to just get 30-pin SIMMs for an AWE32 with standard RAM slots.

The AWE64 Gold is sought after because of the improved SNR, and possibly also its S/PDIF output supporting digital audio samples so you can just connect a much more modern, cleaner DAC with much better SNR than the AWE64 itself can muster. However, no AWE64 has genuine OPL3 like earlier AWE32s do. It's a tradeoff.

I got a question.
I bought few new sound cards to add to my collection (Yamaha 724E-V + Vortex 2).

Sound not only Blaster.jpg

My question is : Did I covered everything ?
I mean, with all of ^these, are there any games/programs that will present compatibility problems regardless of what I put in my system ?
I want to add, that my primary focus is on platforms that have PCI ports (ISA is "Plan B").
Thank you.

Let me see..

OPL3 SBPro 2.0 Compatible ISA Card? No
OPL3 SB16 Compatible ISA Card? Check
Software Synth ISA Card? Check
CQM AWE32 Compatible ISA Card? Yes
OPL3 AWE32 Compatible ISA Card? No
Wavetable Daughterboard ISA Card (w/o Hanging Note Bug)? Check
GUS ISA Card? No
SBPro 2.0 Compatible PCI Card? Check
SB16 Compatible PCI Card? Check
Software Wavetable PCI Card? Check
Wavetable Daughterboard PCI Card? No

I'd say you are well covered.

I recently aquired:

- Compaq Contura 400c (486-Dx2/40Mhz)
- Toshiba Satellite 200CDS (Pentium 100Mhz)
- IBM Thinkpad 760ED (and ELD for spare parts. Successfully switched the MWave in the ED with the ESS1688 Audiodrive from the ELD)

Very happy with the results so far. They all are in great shape. Lots and lots of extra hardware as in docking stations, HDDs, floppy drives, batteries with 75% capacity, etc).

Pictures of these beauties will follow.

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Let me see..

OPL3 SBPro 2.0 Compatible ISA Card? No
OPL3 AWE32 Compatible ISA Card? No
GUS ISA Card? No
Wavetable Daughterboard PCI Card? No

I'd say you are well covered.

Awesome, thanks for info.
Out of curiosity : What hardware would I need to have those ?

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

You won't have Stereo Support in SB Pro 2 mode on your SB16 but otherwise your pretty well set. A first gen Audigy may be a good addition for early EAX3 support.

I got later EAX'es covered in spades 😀

With Audigy 2 ZS I don't need Audigy 1... unless Audigy 2 is "too new" for some games ?

EDIT :
I searched a bit, and found Terratec DMX v1.0 and v1.1 together with Terratec XLerate (all PCI).
I guess, those would cover Wavetable Daughterboard PCI compatibility ?
If so, which one is easier to managed and has better sound quality ?

So you guys might know I've been searching for decent keyboards... found a few such as an HP branded Keytronic (rubber dome though), an AT101W which I sold for twice i got it for (and kinda regret it now), an NMB rubber dome and it's good but keys are stiff due to age...

I'm going back to buckling spring. It's been awhile since I had a Model M (1391401) but I got a Unicomp Classic white PS/2 104 key. Winkey was a must.

How do you guys like Unicomp keyboards?

agent_x007 wrote:

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appiah4 wrote:

Let me see.. […]
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Let me see..

OPL3 SBPro 2.0 Compatible ISA Card? No
OPL3 AWE32 Compatible ISA Card? No
GUS ISA Card? No
Wavetable Daughterboard PCI Card? No

I'd say you are well covered.

Awesome, thanks for info.
Out of curiosity : What hardware would I need to have those ?

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

You won't have Stereo Support in SB Pro 2 mode on your SB16 but otherwise your pretty well set. A first gen Audigy may be a good addition for early EAX3 support.

I got later EAX'es covered in spades 😀

Family Shot.jpg

With Audigy 2 ZS I don't need Audigy 1... unless Audigy 2 is "too new" for some games ?

EDIT :
I searched a bit, and found Terratec DMX v1.0 and v1.1 together with Terratec XLerate (all PCI).
I guess, those would cover Wavetable Daughterboard PCI compatibility ?
If so, which one is easier to managed and has better sound quality ?

I think your good. There are some games that have issues with X-Fi cards though (Battlefront II comes to mind)

😎 Now need to find socket 4 120/133 overdrive

These socket 4 motherboards are dream boards for every retropc user. Why? They haven't electrolytic capacitors 🤣

While using that 486, don't forget to install the drivers, you'll be able to increase the IDE speed ^^

overdrive333 wrote:

These socket 4 motherboards are dream boards for every retropc user. Why? They haven't electrolytic capacitors 🤣

Instead, they have a lot of Tantalum capacitors...

From wiki:

It should be noted that industrially-produced tantalum capacitors nowadays are very reliable components. Continuous improvement in tantalum powder and capacitor technologies have resulted in a significant reduction in the amount of impurities present, which formerly have caused most of the field crystallization failures.

overdrive333 wrote:

😎 Now need to find socket 4 120/133 overdrive

These socket 4 motherboards are dream boards for every retropc user. Why? They haven't electrolytic capacitors 🤣

True, no electrolytic capacitors, but the RTC batteries will probably be empty 🙁

Cyrix200+ wrote:

True, no electrolytic capacitors, but the RTC batteries will probably be empty 🙁

One is ok 😲 .
Another one is empty.