Some SBC do have onboard AGP video cards. Rage 128's are a common find on SBC. But agp is not something most PICMG users would need nor would it be a fun thing to implement on a PICMG board and keep it usable with different SBC.

Got my hands on a gpu and NB waterblocks from Asetek (WaterChill dyo) and some sleeved blue ide cables for my PIII and Athlon. Hope to put in 'em in soon and finish my PIII (for now) and finally continue on my Athlon project 😀

Nevermind

Jade Falcon wrote:

Some SBC do have onboard AGP video cards. Rage 128's are a common find on SBC. But agp is not something most PICMG users would need nor would it be a fun thing to implement on a PICMG board and keep it usable with different SBC.

Lack of AGP became annoying back in the days then i used at home a dual segmented PICMG Pentium 3 1GHZ setup.
Later i have discovered that some SBCs has an AGP mini slot, but where to find the cards?

Traded a 5x86-133 ADZ CPU that I had and never used, for a Socket3 motherboard that only has ISA slots.
Everyone wants PCI, run dx4-100's and so on. I like things a bit different. Yeah... I have a dx2-80/VLB system.
Fun thing... It's a late era 486 board, that can run 3.xx volt CPU's, yet only ISA slots.
This will be a solid 486dx33 build, and my plans for it are as follows.

- 486dx33
- 8mb Ram
- ET4000ax ISA
- Promise DC99 Cached IDE controller ISA
- Audician32plus
- COM/LPT card

Though the board is from 95, and the chipset are late era, everything else is like a 1991 system.
When it is build, I will have these 4 type of systems: ISA-Only, ISA/VLB, ISA/VLB/PCI and ISA/PCI.
Kind of spanning the entire 486 era in terms of the most populair expansion slots on the 486 class.

but thats slow. the real 486 has dx2-66
thats the seal of a 486

Scraphoarder wrote:

Jade Falcon wrote:

Some SBC do have onboard AGP video cards. Rage 128's are a common find on SBC. But agp is not something most PICMG users would need nor would it be a fun thing to implement on a PICMG board and keep it usable with different SBC.

Lack of AGP became annoying back in the days then i used at home a dual segmented PICMG Pentium 3 1GHZ setup.
Later i have discovered that some SBCs has an AGP mini slot, but where to find the cards?

AGP mini?

BLockOUT wrote:

but thats slow. the real 486 has dx2-66
thats the seal of a 486

For you it might. For me it is not. For my needs, a dx2 at 66 does not cut it for what I have of nostalgic attachments. If we are talking dx2's, then a 80 will cut it. A 66 will not, and I would just as well use it for the same tyep of software, that I am going to use this dx33 for. Then there is this nostalgic attachment that I have for any 486 class system. You see... I was a teenager when the 486 system was the defacto standard. And I have had my fingers in 286's, 386's, 486's and so on, from when each platform was the standard. I have seen new stuff, when stuff was new, from way back when the C64 was launched. Seen it all, tried it all, up untill around 2006. Well... The most populair and most used stuff, that is. 😀 To answer your "thats slow, real 486 has dx2-66", I can say that for me, a real 486, has a 486 CPU and an SX is just as real as a 5x86, when I have to define what a 486 is. No matter if the clockspeed is 25mhz or 133mhz. A 486 is a 486. 😉 Shure an SLC or a DLC is an hybrid CPU, yet that is a totally different ball-room or argument if you like. 😀

Basically speaking.... I will build this dx33, for games between 1987/88'ish to around 1991. And I will build it because I allready have these following systems:

Dx2-80, 16mb Ram, VLB Gfx and VLB Controller.
Dx4-120, 32mb Ram, PCI Gfx and onboard controller.
5x86-133, 32mb Ram, PCI Gfx and onboard Controller.

They are all running stock frequency and stock FSB, and as I do not have any pure ISA system from the early 90's, then this will be the one that I am going to build. And it is basically to have computers from early 486 all the way to late 486. Plus I don't have that 386 that I used to have in my collection. It filled the gap between my dx2-80 and my 286 really nice, so a 486dx33 will be a nice replacement for that 386 system. Last but not least, then it is more or less close to my first computer, that I bought with my own money. That was a ISA-Only Cyrix 486slc2-50mhz system, with an ET4000 card, 120mb HDD, SoundGalaxy (SB-Pro compatible) and 4mb Ram.

*sigh* Talk like this is just encouraging me to keep a DX33 and a DX50 and a DX2-66, and a DX2-80 and a DX4-100 and a DX4-120 and a Cx5X86-100, and an AMD 5x86-133 ....

BitWrangler wrote:

*sigh* Talk like this is just encouraging me to keep a DX33 and a DX50 and a DX2-66, and a DX2-80 and a DX4-100 and a DX4-120 and a Cx5X86-100, and an AMD 5x86-133 ....

All part of this OCD train ride my friend.

Yeah what is it the kids say?... "Pokemon, you can't eat just one."

BitWrangler wrote:

*sigh* Talk like this is just encouraging me to keep a DX33 and a DX50 and a DX2-66, and a DX2-80 and a DX4-100 and a DX4-120 and a Cx5X86-100, and an AMD 5x86-133 ....

I see nothing wrong with this. 😉

I also see no problem, comrade. I fit many CPU in storage box.

Jade Falcon wrote:

Scraphoarder wrote:

Jade Falcon wrote:

Some SBC do have onboard AGP video cards. Rage 128's are a common find on SBC. But agp is not something most PICMG users would need nor would it be a fun thing to implement on a PICMG board and keep it usable with different SBC.

Lack of AGP became annoying back in the days then i used at home a dual segmented PICMG Pentium 3 1GHZ setup.
Later i have discovered that some SBCs has an AGP mini slot, but where to find the cards?

AGP mini?

Probably some form of proprietary AGP bus (or AGP over PCI).

liqmat wrote:

BitWrangler wrote:

*sigh* Talk like this is just encouraging me to keep a DX33 and a DX50 and a DX2-66, and a DX2-80 and a DX4-100 and a DX4-120 and a Cx5X86-100, and an AMD 5x86-133 ....

All part of this OCD train ride my friend.

True....
When I have that fourth machine. There is a kind of system in it, that makes it somehow complete. Shure one can get more. It just had a kind of symmetri to it.

ClockSpeed/fsb has from lowest to highest a pattern of these numbers (as I see it): 3-4-4-3.

The motherboards have: "ISA" "ISA-VLB" "ISA-VLB-PCI" "ISA-PCI".

OCD, perhaps... I just like this symmetri of numbers and evolution of the 486 platform.

BitWrangler wrote:

*sigh* Talk like this is just encouraging me to keep a DX33 and a DX50 and a DX2-66, and a DX2-80 and a DX4-100 and a DX4-120 and a Cx5X86-100, and an AMD 5x86-133 ....

Keep those 7 computers.... Not all has this showcase of history to play with. It's like your own little museum right? 😜

brostenen wrote:

BitWrangler wrote:

*sigh* Talk like this is just encouraging me to keep a DX33 and a DX50 and a DX2-66, and a DX2-80 and a DX4-100 and a DX4-120 and a Cx5X86-100, and an AMD 5x86-133 ....

Keep those 7 computers.... Not all has this showcase of history to play with. It's like your own little museum right? 😜

No joke. Its also nice to be able to run games in there native environment without DOSBOX or Widescreen fixes or any of that nonsense.

Spotted a board in a lot of 9 kg which was interesting for me and bought it. After a closer look it is a
Micronics 80486xx EISA (Full size 09-00173-xx)
Its my first EISA. However, quite damaged. Will look later if I try it without fixing the damages or if there is a risk to destroy even more...

http://webpages.charter.net/dperr/micronics/900173.htm

Anybody have such board and knows what the missing C660, R625, C639 are?

Arrivals of the last weeks (not sure if the CT4500 belongs to the box, afaik only CT4501, CT4502 and 4520 are Value cards):

Those old Intel boxes were beautiful!!