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Reply 33100 of 36684, by mpe

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vmr_ wrote on 2020-03-21, 21:02:

Soon to be tested 😀

That's amazing find. Got a ceramic 60 MHz. This one is even less common.

vmr_ wrote on 2020-03-21, 21:23:

and the REAL INTEL BATMAN motherboard for Socket 4. Will make a nice pair wih SX828 😀

This is not Batman, but Hendrix .

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Reply 33101 of 36684, by Robin4

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Bocaram AT Very rare Piggyback board. (price was not bad)

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Very RaRE and fast ISA WD graphic card (wanted to snatch both but ended with one only)
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PCI SCSI controller (price was not bad) Dawicontrol DC-2980 U2W
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486 overdrive processor (not cheap) ( but these days hard to come by.)
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~ At least it can do black and white~

Reply 33102 of 36684, by vmr_

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mpe wrote on 2020-03-22, 16:41:
vmr_ wrote on 2020-03-21, 21:23:

and the REAL INTEL BATMAN motherboard for Socket 4. Will make a nice pair wih SX828 😀

This is not Batman, but Hendrix .

Please share a photo for intel Batman 😁👍

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Reply 33103 of 36684, by mpe

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vmr_ wrote on 2020-03-21, 21:23:

Please share a photo for intel Batman 😁👍

https://dependency-injection.com/wp-content/u … 02/DSC_5302.jpg

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Reply 33104 of 36684, by LewisRaz

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Robin4 wrote on 2020-03-22, 17:24:
Bocaram AT Very rare Piggyback board. (price was not bad) […]
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Bocaram AT Very rare Piggyback board. (price was not bad)

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Very RaRE and fast ISA WD graphic card (wanted to snatch both but ended with one only)
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PCI SCSI controller (price was not bad) Dawicontrol DC-2980 U2W
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486 overdrive processor (not cheap) ( but these days hard to come by.)
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Did you get that overdrive from the UK? I was hesitating on one and then it was gone! 😁

Reply 33105 of 36684, by vmr_

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mpe wrote on 2020-03-22, 17:32:

That one is Batman's Revenge, not Batman...

See here as well Batman's Revenge socket 4 motherboard - need manual

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IBM XT 5160 | 286 | 386 | 486 | S4 SI5PI AIO + P60 SX828
S8 & Pentium Pro 200 | SS7 Asus P5A + AOpen AX59 & AMD K6III+ 550MHz
Slot A Asus K7M Athlon 1Ghz GDF | Slot 1 Pentium III 1GHz SL4KL

Reply 33106 of 36684, by vmr_

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BIOS codes for Batman and Batman's Revenge here http://elhvb.com/mboards/intel/index.html

1.00.xx.AF1 for Batman

1.00.xx.AF2 for Batman's Revenge

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IBM XT 5160 | 286 | 386 | 486 | S4 SI5PI AIO + P60 SX828
S8 & Pentium Pro 200 | SS7 Asus P5A + AOpen AX59 & AMD K6III+ 550MHz
Slot A Asus K7M Athlon 1Ghz GDF | Slot 1 Pentium III 1GHz SL4KL

Reply 33107 of 36684, by vmr_

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Also, have the one you mention, and can confirm BIOS code is AF2, so Batman's Revenge it is

Retro builds & sandbox
IBM XT 5160 | 286 | 386 | 486 | S4 SI5PI AIO + P60 SX828
S8 & Pentium Pro 200 | SS7 Asus P5A + AOpen AX59 & AMD K6III+ 550MHz
Slot A Asus K7M Athlon 1Ghz GDF | Slot 1 Pentium III 1GHz SL4KL

Reply 33109 of 36684, by mpe

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vmr_ wrote on 2020-03-22, 17:37:

That one is Batman's Revenge, not Batman...

How do you know? 😀

There are several different versions of Premiere/PCI (which is the official name of "Batman" or Batman's Revenge). I believe the earlier ones are Batman and later Batman's Revenge. Just not sure when to draw the line.

The AF1 vs AF2 is the only clear way of identifying these two I know about. However it looks like boards can be flashed with either BIOS with some tricks.

People (and also Intel in the BR manual when they refer to "previous version" of the board) claim different ways of ID. Such as:
- Presence of voltage regulator,
- the Dallas or flash BIOS chip being socketed
- Absence of R1000 PCI IDE and tailored PCI3 slot to allow for PCI-IDE card via ISA interrupts
- presence or absence of fast/slow FAN header
- position of certain components on the board
- PCB colour

I handled several Batman or Batman's Revenge boards and found quite a few that broke one or more of the above rules. So none of the above attributes is 100%.

But I am almost certain your board is neither Batman nor Batman's Revenge, but Hendrix 😀

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Reply 33110 of 36684, by appiah4

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How can you guys still buy stuff? No quarantine in your parts of the world?

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Reply 33111 of 36684, by Horun

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appiah4 wrote on 2020-03-22, 18:33:

How can you guys still buy stuff? No quarantine in your parts of the world?

My guess is thru ebay or amibay. I ordered the Arduino 4164/41256 Dram tester and should get it in a week or two. Nearly all the thrift stores here are on a lockdown. all restaurants and bars are also closed (except for drive-thru's) and the Gov wants us all to stay at home....next step will be full quarantine possible on Monday or Tuesday.

Hate posting a reply and have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. 🤣 Second computer a 286 12Mhz with real IDE drive ! After that came 386, 486, Pentium, P.Pro and everything after....

Reply 33112 of 36684, by derSammler

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mpe wrote on 2020-03-22, 18:19:

But I am almost certain your board is neither Batman nor Batman's Revenge, but Hendrix 😀

Certainly no Batman or Batman's Revenge board. The chips on it are way too new for these. I have a later "Neptune" socket 5 board, which is based on the layout of Batman's Revenge and that has chips all *older* than those on his board. Also, the layout is odd and without a doubt newer. It's probably some very late revision of Intel's socket 4 board that fixed many of the flaws Batman and Batman's Revenge had.

Reply 33113 of 36684, by vmr_

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Yup, it is Hendrix version, BIOS code ends BL0

Still, happy as it works, first round of dosbench tests done with SX828 💪

Re. Batman mislabelling - a mix of the above criteria made me think it was batman, thx for clarification

Retro builds & sandbox
IBM XT 5160 | 286 | 386 | 486 | S4 SI5PI AIO + P60 SX828
S8 & Pentium Pro 200 | SS7 Asus P5A + AOpen AX59 & AMD K6III+ 550MHz
Slot A Asus K7M Athlon 1Ghz GDF | Slot 1 Pentium III 1GHz SL4KL

Reply 33114 of 36684, by PC Hoarder Patrol

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appiah4 wrote on 2020-03-22, 18:33:

How can you guys still buy stuff? No quarantine in your parts of the world?

Not yet, but clearly there are so many a'holes who are happy to play covid-19 roulette with their own & other peoples lives, an enforced lockdown can't be far away.

For the time being (and who knows, maybe infinitely longer!!!)I I snuck one last buy under the wire and it's a biggy - a Data General AViiON AV 2300 departmental server, based on the Intel Astor II chassis & the L440GX+ mainboard. As a precaution it's staying out of the way in the packing box meantime until I can be arsed to give it and the contents the bleach wipe treatment but brief details are as follows -

- dual P3 500/512/100 SL35E
- no memory
- SCSI backplane + trays
- floppy & SCSI CD but no IDE / SCSI drives
- chassis, mainboard & PSU

I bought it cheap knowing there's some damage to the front bezel which hopefully I can repair or replace. Here's a launch pic from 1999 I found online

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Reply 33115 of 36684, by piatd

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My retro purchasing has also ceased for the foreseeable future. Everything I've posted recently has gone through quarantine--at least two weeks, much longer than virus is thought to live on cardboard, metal, or plastics--since reaching my stoop. However, even if I am careful, this is not worth the risk. There are too many vulnerable people out there, and I can't be part of the problem.

However, I can still share something that was acquired some months ago:

This is my third (3rd!) Abit BH-6. The other two I already posted about. The seller promised it would work and provided screenshots of it running under DOS and Windows 98.

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The only thing I'm not entirely pleased with is what appears to be oxidation or corrosion on some of the rear ports, as well as anything that may be made out of a similar metal:

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Does anyone have similarly-afflicted hardware?

Reply 33116 of 36684, by appiah4

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It happens to pretty much everything I buy hereabouts, I just give them a good rub with de-ox/contact cleaner spray.

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Reply 33117 of 36684, by Robin4

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Predator99 wrote on 2020-03-22, 18:06:
Robin4 wrote on 2020-03-22, 17:24:

Bocaram AT Very rare Piggyback board. (price was not bad)

Nice board, not easy to find! Can you share the contents of the disk please?

Sure i will do later if the data is still on the disk (its still a gamble i guess these days)

~ At least it can do black and white~

Reply 33118 of 36684, by imi

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appiah4 wrote on 2020-03-22, 18:33:

How can you guys still buy stuff? No quarantine in your parts of the world?

well postal services are still up for now, but a lot of overseas shipping has ceased, having said that though I also have stopped for now... still waiting for a few things to arrive though 😒
currently I just put packages into their own quarantine before even opening them, and wash thouroughly after handling them.... then after a day or two I open them up and look what's inside and then let those things sit for another day or two.

I am quite surprised how active ebay&co still are though.

Reply 33119 of 36684, by sf78

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Local recycling (again):

M-Audio Delta Audiophile 24/96 1€
Athlon 64 X2 6000+ 4€
Crappy (but new) PSU 3€

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I didn't buy these, but the prices were very temping (3€ for the PSU).

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