brownk wrote on 2020-05-11, 12:54:

appiah4 wrote on 2020-05-11, 12:46:

Who is this Korean Tualatin guy?

The guy on the bay. I heard you could ask him to mod a TualCel instead of P3S. So I did. 😉

Wouldn't it be easier to do the mod on the slotket?

H3nrik V! wrote on 2020-05-11, 13:00:

Wouldn't it be easier to do the mod on the slotket?

That's for sure. But when you don't have many slockets, especially the good old MS-6905 v2, the number of options reduces. 😐

brownk wrote on 2020-05-11, 13:03:

H3nrik V! wrote on 2020-05-11, 13:00:

Wouldn't it be easier to do the mod on the slotket?

That's for sure. But when you don't have many slockets, especially the good old MS-6905 v2, the number of options reduces. 😐

Yeah, makes sense. Slotkets are probably harder to come by now a days, than Tualatins/Tualerons

There are literally tens, if not hundreds, of NOS MS6905 Master V2 (still sealed in their original packaging) on German eBay. I recently bought 2 for about 15€.

won this "scrap" lot on ebay for a surprisingly low price 😀

The AWE32 is beautiful but the pins on the VLB(?) disk controller card make me cry...

I am going to try and fix that but the awe32 was the item I wanted. Seller said the awe32 looks to be in really good shape and has packed it seperate.

the thick pins usually take a little bit of persuasion to bend back but should be easily fixable :3

Easier to bend pins back without breaking them on headers than CPU pins.

This Sunday I got myself some Samsung IDE hard drives - 40, 80 and 200GB, all with a 32GB limit setting, so quite good for retro PC projects.

wiretap wrote on 2020-05-09, 11:02:

Munx wrote on 2020-05-09, 09:34:

Sadly as I was removing the cooler to add new thermal paste, one of the screws holding it just snapped off and I am unable get it fixed, so Im looking through my replacement options. I have a 3rd party cooler for this card, but I really want to use the original.
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Drill and retap it.

One screw is now shorter so I'd have to shorten the other too, plus drilling a tiny thing like this will require me to buy a new drill. 20mm M2 screws should be a good replacement for these.

Munx wrote on 2020-05-11, 18:14:

This Sunday I got myself some Samsung IDE hard drives - 40, 80 and 200GB, all with a 32GB limit setting, so quite good for retro […]
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This Sunday I got myself some Samsung IDE hard drives - 40, 80 and 200GB, all with a 32GB limit setting, so quite good for retro PC projects.
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wiretap wrote on 2020-05-09, 11:02:

Munx wrote on 2020-05-09, 09:34:

Sadly as I was removing the cooler to add new thermal paste, one of the screws holding it just snapped off and I am unable get it fixed, so Im looking through my replacement options. I have a 3rd party cooler for this card, but I really want to use the original.
P_20200509_122714.jpg

Drill and retap it.

One screw is now shorter so I'd have to shorten the other too, plus drilling a tiny thing like this will require me to buy a new drill. 20mm M2 screws should be a good replacement for these.

You can limit those Samsung drives in software as well. They make a really quick 500mb drive.

bjwil1991 wrote on 2020-05-11, 17:53:

Easier to bend pins back without breaking them on headers than CPU pins.

Tell me about it, I have a Socket 423 Pentium 4 sitting on my desk right now that was shipped without foam or a plastic clamshell so all of the pins are slightly bent and that's after me trying to straighten as many as I could. I think you can do it with like a 0.7 mechanical pencil but I've never tried it because I don't know if it actually works.

As long as there are no traces damaged I am confident I can get it working. Can always steal the header from a broken motherboard if the pins break.

Today I received a Tulip TC76 mainboard that I'm going to use as a drop-in replacement for the TC48 that my Visionline dt 5/120 came with.
The TC76 has several advantages over the TC48, most notably:
- support for MMX CPUs (which some TC48s do have since the VX chipset generally supports it, but mine is lacking some voltage regulator components so it can't take split-voltage CPUs)
- 430TX over VX chipset
- SDRAM instead of EDO
- S3 Virge graphics chip instead of Alliance AT24
- Sound Blaster Vibra 16X (CT2510) onboard instad of no sound at all
- not sure about the onboard LAN, might be 100 instead of 10 MBit
... so it's going to be quite an improvement. Only downside is a damaged socket (heatsink retainer broke off).

Got the board complete with riser card, P166 MMX, cooler and 32MB SDRAM for 15€ shipped. It was listed for 30 but I guess demand was pretty low, so the seller immediately agreed when I offered 15.

In a different auction, I was finally able to acquire a Pentium II 450 MHz (SL2WB) for one of my 440BX builds - untested for 5€ shipped. These show up very rarely on German auction and classifieds sites - let's hope this one works 😄

ah, so that was you 😉

good thing it went to someone who has a fitting machine for it, I've been wanting to buy it purely for the hardware so it was on my watch list for a while now but I wouldn't have had an adequate case/machine to put it in ^^

Look for pentium cpu with retail intel heatsink attached?

Cheers,

imi wrote on 2020-05-11, 19:31:

ah, so that was you 😉

good thing it went to someone who has a fitting machine for it, I've been wanting to buy it purely for the hardware so it was on my watch list for a while now but I wouldn't have had an adequate case/machine to put it in ^^

Hah, so I guess "thank you for not buying it" 😁

Photos of the Visionline system should be in this thread some pages back, but I'll include them again. Sellers photos as well, haven't found the time to take some myself. In the meantime it has been cleaned inside and outside. While it was really dirty on the outside, the inside was surprisingly clean, including the power supply. Hardly any dust, so I guess it hasn't seen much use. Apart from the RAM that has been upgraded at some point, and a missing HDD, it was pretty much in its original state. I have added an optical drive, a Tseng ET6000, a Voodoo 1, my Maestro 32/96 and a period-correct hard drive and it works like a charm. So I was a bit hesitant to replace the TC48 with the later TC76, but I will store it away safely so I can swap it back in whenever I feel like it.

@pentiumspeed: That's a good idea. I think that I still have a heatsink somewhere that uses the remaining clips, but if not, I'll definitely look for one of those with heatsink attached.

Ah rather nice slim line clone. I liked very very slim case but with good expansion ablity and cache built in, (rarely done back in the day.).

Just curious, why does lot of OEMs back in the day skip the regular motherboards and use all in one motheboards with limited slot risers, even the ones with 5 slot riser is roomy enough to have a 7 or 8 slot chassis would use standard board or semi standard motherboard instead? Back in the day, I preferred towers starting with 386DX 25, again with 486 but in shorter tower. I had a desktop just once in pentium era but not what it is meant to be sitting under monitor, got sitting in my tv stand for a period of time then when I got PII, it is back in a tower form ever since.

The new again too, Using mATX chassis and mATX motherboard. The only difference is 1 half-height drive taller to become regular ATX chassis. mATX size board is 9.6"x9.6" while ATX is 12" wide by any length. Only 2.4" difference shouldn't made much in dollars, at most about 20-40 dollars BOM. People was not after the height but future expansion matters was not in their future thought.

Annoyingly thing, modern SFF uses low profile cards, not smart move, I rather perfer standard height cards.

I keep each main computer if they were well done for performance usually in use at least 7 years usually.

Cheers,

pentiumspeed wrote on 2020-05-11, 19:46:

Look for pentium cpu with retail intel heatsink attached?

Cheers,

I have one of these, an MMX-200 IIRC.. I never thought it could be useful, but then I should have known better - I've seen more than enough Socket As with broken retainer clips..

These Intel glued-on coolers are God-awful in terms of noise though. They're even noisy when connected via a voltage-dropping resistor.