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Reply 35000 of 52680, by appiah4

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I got this for 10 bucks shipped. I had a Riva 128 but was lacking a 128ZX in my collection.

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And with that I am finally really happy and proud of my collection (in m ysig) and done with collecting AGP video cards. I think. Unless I come across a Kyro II at some point. Or a Voodoo 4.

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Reply 35001 of 52680, by devius

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appiah4 wrote on 2020-07-06, 10:38:

And with that I am finally really happy and proud of my collection (in m ysig) and done with collecting AGP video cards. I think. Unless I come across a Kyro II at some point. Or a Voodoo 4.

Good luck with not collecting any more AGP video cards 😆

Reply 35002 of 52680, by bjwil1991

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Bought some RCA to BNC adapters for my Sony PVM-9L1.

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Reply 35003 of 52680, by waterbeesje

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Do I call this a steal or just a good buy?

This guy I really to regularly about old stuff has sold me some parts earlier. He texts me, withn unknown motherboard and unknown CPU, and he finds himself too lazy to check what it is and if it works. No pics, no further info, but just €15 plus shipping and he'd send it to me. Ok, I'll just see if it's works, lets go.

He told me he'll put a graphics card and sound card with it, because he had to much stuff. I can't say no.

Turns out to be an Asus CUSL2 with Pentium 3 866 CPU, 256MB PC133 ram, Matrox G400 dual head, sound blaster PCI CT4810, some Realtek 8139C Lan card and a Pinnacle DV500 video capture card.

The capture card was a bonus, I asked him why. Turns out useless to him because the breakout is lost.

Checked it. Installed it. Tested it. Working fine!

(No, not just laying on the table, I fitted some little risers underneath)

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Reply 35005 of 52680, by darry

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gex85 wrote on 2020-07-05, 10:40:
CMB75 wrote on 2020-07-05, 09:35:
gex85 wrote on 2020-07-05, 08:06:

I haven't decided whether to try overclocking it or not... Over the years I have accumulated a collection of ~15 P3-S CPUs (1.13GHz, 1.26GHz and 1.4GHz models) so chances are pretty good that I have a pair that overlocks well enough, but finding it might be a time-consuming task 😉

My favorite is the Gigabyte GA-6VTXD because it’s easygoing for overclocking, features an AGP port and is ISA port capable. That’s why it’s my go to machine for “performance” gaming spanning from MS DOS 6.22 up to Windows XP early 2000 games. 😀

I have been looking for a GA-6VTXD, too. So far without success.
I do have a GA-6VTXDR-C however, which features the same chipset (Via Apollo Pro) and even comes with onboard LAN and RAID, but unfortunately instead of the AGP slot it has onboard Video, which is really lame. I haven't investigated the BIOS settings so I don't know whether or not it has the same overclocking capabilities as the GA-6VTXD. To make it usable for retro gaming I would have to find a decent PCI video card, probably something like a GF4 MX or an FX5200...

There is also a GA-6VTXE . I had one of those when it was current tech . It had ISA, AGP and Tualatin support .
EDIT: D is for dual, I see .

Reply 35006 of 52680, by debs3759

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CMB75 wrote on 2020-07-03, 06:36:

Today I received another contender for the spot in my mid 90th 233MMX. A Hercules Stingray 64 PCI with an ARK2000PV chip. It’ll have to compete with an ET6000, some S3 cards and some MGA cards - playground: DOS 2D VGA gaming.

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It seems I always pay way to much for single items … maybe I should shift my attention to all those mystery boxes with 10 EUR per 10 kilos and keep the fingers crossed.

Any idea of the amount and type of memory on that card? Clock speeds would be useful for my website if you have a way of testing them as well. I'm starting to add older cards to gpuzoo.com now 😀

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Reply 35007 of 52680, by Zero_sugar

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FX 5950 Ultra and 6800 Ultra AGP
These were in the as-is bin at my local e-cycling store. They were suspiciously clean, and both work perfectly.

Reply 35009 of 52680, by PcBytes

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appiah4 wrote:

OEM (Compaq?) ATI Radeon AGP (7000/7200/7500/8500/9000/9100 - who knows?)

Mind checking if there's a PN on it? (other than Compaq/HP's) I managed to find out the exact specs for a Rage Pro Turbo AIW I had that way.

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Reply 35010 of 52680, by CMB75

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debs3759 wrote on 2020-07-07, 02:01:

Any idea of the amount and type of memory on that card? Clock speeds would be useful for my website if you have a way of testing them as well. I'm starting to add older cards to gpuzoo.com now 😀

I’ve not tested this card, yet (still testing my "new" ET6000). But I am able to provide some information beforehand.

The card features eight 256K x 4-bit CMOS DRAM chips @70ns and two socketed 1M x 4-bit CMOS DRAM chips @ 70ns which sums up to 2 MB of DRAM @70ns. There are however two additional pads on the PCB for two more sockets and the ARK2000PV supports up to 4 MB of DRAM. Another component is the 16-bit AT&T PrecisionDAC ATT21C498-13 which is clocked at 135 MHz, usually (There are 170 MHz, 120 MHz and 110 MHz versions, also).

According to Dylan Rhodes, Product Manager, Hercules Computer Technology the Stingray line is exclusively DRAM based … slower than Terminators (VRAM) using GUIs, faster than Terminators using DOS. *1995 (source: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.a … ors/xrMTAP2z68I)

Please let me know if you need any more detailed and/or close-up pictures.

Reply 35011 of 52680, by debs3759

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CMB75 wrote on 2020-07-07, 06:21:
I’ve not tested this card, yet (still testing my "new" ET6000). But I am able to provide some information beforehand. […]
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debs3759 wrote on 2020-07-07, 02:01:

Any idea of the amount and type of memory on that card? Clock speeds would be useful for my website if you have a way of testing them as well. I'm starting to add older cards to gpuzoo.com now 😀

I’ve not tested this card, yet (still testing my "new" ET6000). But I am able to provide some information beforehand.

The card features eight 256K x 4-bit CMOS DRAM chips @70ns and two socketed 1M x 4-bit CMOS DRAM chips @ 70ns which sums up to 2 MB of DRAM @70ns. There are however two additional pads on the PCB for two more sockets and the ARK2000PV supports up to 4 MB of DRAM. Another component is the 16-bit AT&T PrecisionDAC ATT21C498-13 which is clocked at 135 MHz, usually (There are 170 MHz, 120 MHz and 110 MHz versions, also).

According to Dylan Rhodes, Product Manager, Hercules Computer Technology the Stingray line is exclusively DRAM based … slower than Terminators (VRAM) using GUIs, faster than Terminators using DOS. *1995 (source: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.a … ors/xrMTAP2z68I)

Please let me know if you need any more detailed and/or close-up pictures.

Thanks.

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Reply 35012 of 52680, by CMB75

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“Always look on the bright side of life …” - I can hear that tune, already.

It seems I don’t have a lucky hand with my P55C project. First try I bought an ASUS XP55T2P4 (ATX) from the bay … I got delivered an ASUS P55T2P4 (AT). I returned it to the sender from Poland but I never got a refund for the shipping costs. In the end I let it slide…

Then I bought a Gigabyte GA-5AX from someone in the UK. Dead on arrival. OK, it was really cheap, harvested some parts and let it slide…

At last I bought an ASUS P5A Rev 1.06 with an AMD K6-2 and 128MB of RAM for a ridiculous amount of money from a seller in Spain … guess what … it is a Rev 1.04 with the generation E of the ALADDiN chipset. At least it does post … I would be willing to let it slide if it wasn’t for the fact that I’ve paid way too much money and the offer clearly stated Rev 1.06 in the headline. Contacted the seller - no answer, yet - at least a small discount would be decent. (… guess who will let it slide in the end)

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Anyways, I finally have all the parts for the project 😀

Reply 35013 of 52680, by pentiumspeed

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Unfortunate.

These days, you are best advised to pay slightly more and wider search globally. I had good luck purchasing boards, some were far away like Russia few times.

Usually good sellers knows their stuff and priced accordingly. Around $60 to $160 cad is the average price. The ones that is stupidly low usually has issues.

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Reply 35015 of 52680, by wiretap

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Snagged a new in box PS/2 Siig Minitouch (Alps clone switches) for $60 on eBay. I guess this makes up for selling my other one, which had the Monterrey blue's. Maybe I'll swap out the switches with some better Alps-compatible ones at some point, since this one likely has the Ivory + Yellow Hua-Jie AK-CN2 switches. They're good IMO, but could be better.

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Reply 35016 of 52680, by CMB75

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Deksor wrote on 2020-07-07, 18:55:

What's wrong with the P5A rev 1.04 and the rev E of aladdin chipset ?

There is nothing “wrong” with that chipset generation , it just lacks features and caches only a quarter of the RAM of the later generation G (128MB vs. 512MB). Of course you can still get a K6-2+ oder K6-III+ CPU which would take care of that problem...
in this case it’s just less than what I’ve paid for... quite disappointing.

Reply 35017 of 52680, by Deksor

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Ah I see, I was just wondering because I own this exact motherboard x)

However 128MB for anything on socket 7 (even a K6-III) should be plenty 😀 (unless you aim to run Windows XP)

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Reply 35018 of 52680, by Thermalwrong

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I found a Kingston Turbochip in a scrap lot - less than £10 for this thing and it works perfectly 😀 So loud though, so I can see why it was considered scrap. The performance difference it makes for this ISA-only with broken L2 cache is immense, Doom goes from pretty slow to downright playable.

Here's how I found it:

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It replaced a 486 SX33 on this board, which is the 'proper' chip for this ISA only 486 with broken L2 cache (and broken speaker apparently):

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This all runs off of a PicoPSU with an AT-ATX adapter and a constant current power supply so I can see power usage and see if a short occurs. The power bump from the 486SX33 to the 5x86 133 is quite significant - it went from 11 watts average power to 18-20 watts:

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The speed check is close to where a 5x86 133 would be without any L2 cache:

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