VOGONS


Bought these (retro) hardware today

Topic actions

Reply 36920 of 38211, by HanJammer

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

Not really anything special and condition of some cards is so-so but will come in handy for building some rigs for sale... I'm mostly interested in the MiroMedia Surround card - addon DSP for regular sound cards. It implements Dolby Surround for 2 or 2+1 speaker setup so I hope for it being a bit more than just another 'spatializer' which was a common thing on sound cards back then... Also the Digitan DSAC-300 sound card seems a bit uncommon. Havn't seen one before...

Attachments

Check out my AmiBay and eBay for ISA and PCI card, 286/386/486 Pentium motherboards and more.

Reply 36921 of 38211, by Xicor

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
Salient wrote on 2020-11-16, 19:53:
Xicor wrote on 2020-11-16, 17:47:
.... Today i received a new member for my midi "tower of power", a Korg NX5R (@110€ including shipping), that has seen a lot of […]
Show full quote

....
Today i received a new member for my midi "tower of power", a Korg NX5R (@110€ including shipping), that has seen a lot of action in the "battlefield", but nevertheless fully functional.
....
I was fearing that past owner had scavenged the Yamaha module, it turned out to be where it should.

That is a great price! I paid about that amount for just the DB51XG board.

Thanks to your work @ www.wavetable.nl, we all can choose the modules and sound cards that for each of us are more appealing , and to me it was an invaluable help to make my mind on which ones to pick... So, my hat's off to you Sir !!
Also, I feel sorry for the NX5R that roams the earth without its companion DB51XG....

Reply 36922 of 38211, by BetaC

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

Today I spent an extreme amount on some hardware.

image0.jpg
Filename
image0.jpg
File size
1.5 MiB
Views
603 views
File license
CC-BY-4.0

An entire $5 for a bootable 133 PATA drive and SATA drive combo. Now I only need to figure out how to get it to boot off of PATA when something SATA is also attached.

9zy51i-99.png
g32zpm-99.png
0zuv7q-6.png
5fh2yu-6.png

Reply 36923 of 38211, by Warlord

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

I got this kinda cool card, I put it in my 486 and it instantly worked. It is like XTIDE except it's OG XTIDE from the 90s before XTIDE existed. Also it fixed y2k bug. It detected my 32gb CF and let me format 32gb. no compatibility issues with my VLB Adaptec IDE controller. It also cost me way less than XTIDE cards you fine on ebay.

Attachments

  • s-l1601.jpg
    Filename
    s-l1601.jpg
    File size
    178.39 KiB
    Views
    586 views
    File license
    Public domain
  • s-l1600.jpg
    Filename
    s-l1600.jpg
    File size
    234.98 KiB
    Views
    586 views
    File license
    Public domain

Reply 36924 of 38211, by debs3759

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
Warlord wrote on 2020-11-19, 02:01:

I got this kinda cool card, I put it in my 486 and it instantly worked. It is like XTIDE except it's OG XTIDE from the 90s before XTIDE existed. Also it fixed y2k bug. It detected my 32gb CF and let me format 32gb. no compatibility issues with my VLB Adaptec IDE controller. It also cost me way less than XTIDE cards you fine on ebay.

Any price is better than this one

See my graphics card database at www.gpuzoo.com
Constantly being worked on. Feel free to message me with any corrections or details of cards you would like me to research and add.

Reply 36926 of 38211, by hyoenmadan

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
Warlord wrote on 2020-11-19, 02:01:

I got this kinda cool card, I put it in my 486 and it instantly worked. It is like XTIDE except it's OG XTIDE from the 90s before XTIDE existed. Also it fixed y2k bug. It detected my 32gb CF and let me format 32gb. no compatibility issues with my VLB Adaptec IDE controller. It also cost me way less than XTIDE cards you fine on ebay.

Would be good to have backup's of these card ROMs. As far as I have seen, some of these INT13 ROMs have better compatibility with old gear and mixtures between integrated IDE controllers and HBAs than XTIDE.

Reply 36927 of 38211, by Warlord

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

I have to look into how to dump the rom. Physically the pcb layout is not that complex. Not sure tho that the rom will work in a network card like XTIDE. I have the manual aswell. It probably wouldn't be that hard to clone the card.

Reply 36928 of 38211, by yawetaG

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
BetaC wrote on 2020-11-19, 01:38:

Today I spent an extreme amount on some hardware.
image0.jpg
An entire $5 for a bootable 133 PATA drive and SATA drive combo. Now I only need to figure out how to get it to boot off of PATA when something SATA is also attached.

Well, as long as it doesn't use the same stupid SATA/PATA implementation as some early SATA Dells (the SATA bus on those is actually connected directly to the PATA bus via an integrated adapter, so you can use either SATA or PATA but not both...)

Reply 36929 of 38211, by BetaC

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
yawetaG wrote on 2020-11-19, 08:47:
BetaC wrote on 2020-11-19, 01:38:

Today I spent an extreme amount on some hardware.
image0.jpg
An entire $5 for a bootable 133 PATA drive and SATA drive combo. Now I only need to figure out how to get it to boot off of PATA when something SATA is also attached.

Well, as long as it doesn't use the same stupid SATA/PATA implementation as some early SATA Dells (the SATA bus on those is actually connected directly to the PATA bus via an integrated adapter, so you can use either SATA or PATA but not both...)

They both work simultaneously, the only real issue is the one I mentioned, and it not supporting ATAPI, which means I will eventually need to re-burn a bunch of disks to make my CD drives happy again instead of just cheating with a more modern SATA drive.

9zy51i-99.png
g32zpm-99.png
0zuv7q-6.png
5fh2yu-6.png

Reply 36930 of 38211, by HanJammer

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
Warlord wrote on 2020-11-19, 02:01:

I got this kinda cool card, I put it in my 486 and it instantly worked. It is like XTIDE except it's OG XTIDE from the 90s before XTIDE existed. Also it fixed y2k bug. It detected my 32gb CF and let me format 32gb. no compatibility issues with my VLB Adaptec IDE controller. It also cost me way less than XTIDE cards you fine on ebay.

That's cool! Please dump the EPROM if you can.

Check out my AmiBay and eBay for ISA and PCI card, 286/386/486 Pentium motherboards and more.

Reply 36931 of 38211, by wiretap

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

Found an Ebay seller (radimf78) with a bunch of these for sale, so I picked one up.. yay, no more using shoddy pry tools to remove PGA CPU's. 😁
rb3Svnvh.jpg

Circuit Board Repair Manuals
Turbo Display Project
Dual Socket 8 Project

Reply 36933 of 38211, by debs3759

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
chrismeyer6 wrote on 2020-11-19, 16:06:

Nice find. That tool looks like a fin comb for straightening fins on AC/refrigeration equipment.

It is a PGA CPU removal tool for motherboards without ZIF socket. Most that I have seen came in upgrade kits.

See my graphics card database at www.gpuzoo.com
Constantly being worked on. Feel free to message me with any corrections or details of cards you would like me to research and add.

Reply 36934 of 38211, by gex85

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

I was casually browsing the local classifieds site today when I came across an ad with a title similar to "PC and a lot of various PC and laptop parts". The whole pile for 10€, but located a two hours drive south from my place. Looked into it, saw the first picture, immediately asked the seller whether he would agree to ship a single item, which he did. Here it is:

board.png
Filename
board.png
File size
1.11 MiB
Views
403 views
File comment
sellers photo
File license
Fair use/fair dealing exception

So yeah, that's an ASUS P5A right there, including some unknown CPU, for 15€ shipped.
Let's hope it still works. I haven't looked into the various revisions of the P5A yet, it seems that some are more desirable than others, so fingers crossed this was a good buy.

1992 - i486DX2-66 // 1997 - P1-233 MMX // 1998 - P2-350 // 2000 - P3-650 // 2001 - Athlon 1400 // 2003 - Athlon XP 3200+ // 2008 - Xeon E5450 // 2015 - Xeon E3-1240v5

Reply 36935 of 38211, by cyclone3d

User metadata
Rank l33t++
Rank
l33t++
gex85 wrote on 2020-11-19, 16:32:
I was casually browsing the local classifieds site today when I came across an ad with a title similar to "PC and a lot of vario […]
Show full quote

I was casually browsing the local classifieds site today when I came across an ad with a title similar to "PC and a lot of various PC and laptop parts". The whole pile for 10€, but located a two hours drive south from my place. Looked into it, saw the first picture, immediately asked the seller whether he would agree to ship a single item, which he did. Here it is:
board.png
So yeah, that's an ASUS P5A right there, including some unknown CPU, for 15€ shipped.
Let's hope it still works. I haven't looked into the various revisions of the P5A yet, it seems that some are more desirable than others, so fingers crossed this was a good buy.

Nice. As it has the tag chip, it is an earlier version that shouldn't need modding to support the K6-2+ / K6-3+ CPUs properly.

Yamaha YMF modified setupds and drivers
Yamaha XG resource repository - updated November 27, 2018
Yamaha YMF7x4 Guide
AW744L II - YMF744 - AOpen Cobra Sound Card - Install SB-Link Header
Epstein didn't kill himself

Reply 36936 of 38211, by kolderman

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
cyclone3d wrote on 2020-11-19, 18:24:
gex85 wrote on 2020-11-19, 16:32:
I was casually browsing the local classifieds site today when I came across an ad with a title similar to "PC and a lot of vario […]
Show full quote

I was casually browsing the local classifieds site today when I came across an ad with a title similar to "PC and a lot of various PC and laptop parts". The whole pile for 10€, but located a two hours drive south from my place. Looked into it, saw the first picture, immediately asked the seller whether he would agree to ship a single item, which he did. Here it is:
board.png
So yeah, that's an ASUS P5A right there, including some unknown CPU, for 15€ shipped.
Let's hope it still works. I haven't looked into the various revisions of the P5A yet, it seems that some are more desirable than others, so fingers crossed this was a good buy.

Nice. As it has the tag chip, it is an earlier version that shouldn't need modding to support the K6-2+ / K6-3+ CPUs properly.

Which one is that exactly? And the later versions are still quite good combined with a MMX that can also be slowed down with setmul (not multiplier though).

Reply 36937 of 38211, by cyclone3d

User metadata
Rank l33t++
Rank
l33t++

The tag chip is the smaller chip next to the northbridge.

The 1.05 and 1.06 are the ones that have to be modded to work properly with the K6-2+ and K6-3+

K6-2/3+ Success on Asus P5A 1.06 - simple mod

Yamaha YMF modified setupds and drivers
Yamaha XG resource repository - updated November 27, 2018
Yamaha YMF7x4 Guide
AW744L II - YMF744 - AOpen Cobra Sound Card - Install SB-Link Header
Epstein didn't kill himself

Reply 36938 of 38211, by gex85

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

Nice, thanks for pointing that out. I still have a few K6-2+ 550 MHz CPUs sitting in the drawer (all of them overclock to 600 MHz without issues), so that should be a nice fit!

1992 - i486DX2-66 // 1997 - P1-233 MMX // 1998 - P2-350 // 2000 - P3-650 // 2001 - Athlon 1400 // 2003 - Athlon XP 3200+ // 2008 - Xeon E5450 // 2015 - Xeon E3-1240v5

Reply 36939 of 38211, by GL1zdA

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
HanJammer wrote on 2020-11-18, 09:21:

Not really anything special and condition of some cards is so-so but will come in handy for building some rigs for sale... I'm mostly interested in the MiroMedia Surround card - addon DSP for regular sound cards. It implements Dolby Surround for 2 or 2+1 speaker setup so I hope for it being a bit more than just another 'spatializer' which was a common thing on sound cards back then... Also the Digitan DSAC-300 sound card seems a bit uncommon. Havn't seen one before...

Dolby Surround in case of this card (Dolby were never consistent with what they called "Dolby Surround") refers to the Dolby Pro Logic encoder, it's not really implemented by the card. I don't know of any technologies older than DTS Connect/Dolby Digital Live that would do something like that on the PC.

Looking at the manual, the "JVC 3D-Phonic Surround-Soundsystem" is a technology that tries to reproduce surround sound on stereo speakers (virtual surround sound). Something similar to Aureal A3D (and a dozen of other technologies). But it needs surround sound as an input, so I don't think it will work with plain stereo sound. Looking further in the manual, the drivers for Win 3.1 offer 3D-Phonic only as an option for the Dolby Pro Logic mode, what would confirm my suspicions.

For stereo expansion, this card has the "Texas Instruments 3D Stereo Enhancement" and this is a "spatializer".

This will be a fun card if you find something with a Pro Logic soundtrack. I'm not a movie wiz, but maybe there are Video CDs with such soundtracks. Will have to look through my parents Video CDs collection for Dolby logos 😉

getquake.gif | InfoWorld/PC Magazine Indices