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Reply 37621 of 37759, by Gona

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Gona wrote on 2019-05-20, 12:21:
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Speed, compared to the triton?

Must be slower than Triton. I will compare the VLB graphics performance to OPTi Python.

Sorry for the late answer but now benchmarked 12 motherboards including that one.
The DFI G586VPA Socket 5 VLB/PCI board is about 20% slower than Intel Premiere/PCI II. Although with PCI videocards about 14% faster than OPTi Socket 5 VLB/PCI board (which actually the slowest ones with PCI in the Socket 5/7 platform) but with VLB it is slower than OPTi Socket 5 VLB. However OPTi Socket 5 VLB has lot incompatibility problems with VLB (problems with all Cirrus Logic VLB videocards and 3D Blaster VLB), the DFI G586VPA has no incompatibility problems at all, but gives a late 486 like performance...

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Reply 37622 of 37759, by pete8475

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kixs wrote on 2021-01-13, 17:36:

Don't exaggerate... I had a few Ultras back then and I have a few now... they all worked/work great. Maybe you had some memory incompatibility...

I'm not exaggerating, I am amazed his works this well.

I threw at least 50 of these shit motherboards in the trash. I RMAed a few and got more shit in return from MSI and Asus and after that it was straight into the dumpster.

Reply 37623 of 37759, by PC@LIVE

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Purchased this mini lot earlier.
An AMD 5k86-P75 Socket5 CPU, an 8-bit ISA modem, and an ASUS with 2 USB ports.
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AMD 286-16 287-10 4MB HD 45MB VGA 256KB
AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 37624 of 37759, by chrismeyer6

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I've used nforce 2 boards from Abit and DFI and never had any stability issues. It might just be something up with the MSI and Asus boards. I've personally have had nothing but issues with anything I've gotten from Asus so I now avoid their parts at all costs.

Reply 37625 of 37759, by devius

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pete8475 wrote on 2021-01-13, 21:15:

I threw at least 50 of these shit motherboards in the trash. I RMAed a few and got more shit in return from MSI and Asus and after that it was straight into the dumpster.

The moral of the story seems to be to not use nForce2 motherboards from Asus and MSI. Count me in as someone that used a nForce2 motherboard for about 7 years without the stability problems you mention. In my case it was manufactured by Soltek.

Reply 37626 of 37759, by kolderman

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devius wrote on 2021-01-13, 21:32:
pete8475 wrote on 2021-01-13, 21:15:

I threw at least 50 of these shit motherboards in the trash. I RMAed a few and got more shit in return from MSI and Asus and after that it was straight into the dumpster.

The moral of the story seems to be to not use nForce2 motherboards from Asus and MSI. Count me in as someone that used a nForce2 motherboard for about 7 years without the stability problems you mention. In my case it was manufactured by Soltek.

The moral of my story is once you discover the wonder of KT333 boards and their support for 3.3v AGP (read voodoo5 support), and DDR400, there is no going back. I save dual-channel DDR400 builds for my P4 systems.

Reply 37627 of 37759, by bearking

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Got these today as a lot for 22 euro incl. shipping... only took the hard drive because it came with the card. A Joytech Apollo 3D Voodoo Banshee. Not that special but the price was good.
Both are working fine...

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Reply 37628 of 37759, by Horun

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At my fav local thrift store bought 2 Maxtor HD boxes labeled as 80Gb but has the original drives those replaced inside. One has a WD24300, the other has a WD28400 and a Maxtor 91024u2 10Gb inside. All nicely anti-static bagged and cushioned with original Maxtor HD box cushions. There is a sticky note on one 80Gb box with "4-2-05 original Dell GX1 4Gb HDD" and on the other box "4-2-05 Old WD 8GB HDD: C, D &F. 10Gb HDD: D drive imaged replaced Dell GX1". The boxes have the original unopened cables and Instruction books too.
Hope they work ! If they have sat boxed for nearly 16 years there is hope ! Also got a PCI USB card in original box. Also got a Arrow Heavy Duty T-50 stapler NOS from before 1990. Paid $25 for all.
Will post pics and test results when I get home.

Hate posting a reply and have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. 🤣 Second computer a 286 12Mhz with real IDE drive ! After that came 386, 486, Pentium, P.Pro and everything after....

Reply 37629 of 37759, by stege

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A fiend afflicted by the same disease we all seem to suffer from, donated these to me. Tears rolled while goods exchanged owners.

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Reply 37630 of 37759, by Shreddoc

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Am I the only one with the bugbear about RAM on carpet? 😀 Probably unfounded. I grew up in that paranoid era regarding RAM and static damage. But I don't actually know if static charge can or does "sit waiting in the carpet", waiting to be destructively transferred into the RAM laid down upon it.

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Reply 37631 of 37759, by Horun

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Shreddoc wrote on 2021-01-14, 02:59:

Am I the only one with the bugbear about RAM on carpet? 😀 Probably unfounded. I grew up in that paranoid era regarding RAM and static damage. But I don't actually know if static charge can or does "sit waiting in the carpet", waiting to be destructively transferred into the RAM laid down upon it.

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NO ! I never put any bare computer part on bare carpet (and I live in a area that has typically 70%+ humidity). Yes it can shorten the life of some items....if not they would not put warnings in bright yellow tags on parts bags 😀

Ok tested the drives and they work ok. Only the Maxtor 10gb has SMART which reported all very good, but a quick random surface check showed all as good. None had file newer than 3 years after man date and all were at over 90% capacity. 🤣
I did power them up for about 5 minutes before connecting and reading/testing, wanted to stabilize the old electronics and sure enough not one had a file written to any after 2004. The Wd23400 did chirp and click on and off a bit during the warm up, the others just purred. Was expecting the 23400 to have issues (have had them before and they developed the click of death syndrum ) . Did not test the 4 port Opti based USB card... for $3 in a box am not worried about it.
As per my post a few hours ago: the yellow sticky notes were on the boxes and drives from whoever had them before. The green circle sticky is mine (green = good and put the year tested, just my OCD thing)
added Shit just relealized I put 2020 and it is 2021, will fix that....

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Hate posting a reply and have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. 🤣 Second computer a 286 12Mhz with real IDE drive ! After that came 386, 486, Pentium, P.Pro and everything after....

Reply 37632 of 37759, by Repo Man11

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wiretap wrote on 2021-01-13, 18:44:
Just grabbed these for $21 shipped (total for both). […]
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Just grabbed these for $21 shipped (total for both).

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In the spring of 2001, I was given a Cybermax computer that had a VX chipset Biostar motherboard, and a Cyrix 133 MHz CPU. I bought one of those Winchip Evergreen 200 MHz CPUs in late April to upgrade it, but it wouldn't post. I put the Cyrix back in and emailed Evergreen, and even though I'd bought it on Ebay, they emailed me a BIOS to make it work. Very nervous about doing my first ever BIOS flash, I felt like I'd done a magic trick when I swapped the Winchip CPU back in and it POSTed!

Reply 37633 of 37759, by brostenen

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Not computer hardware.
I bought this lamp that have 1970's design. I could not resist. And yes, it is made in the 1970's.
True Danish design from that era. I simply love it.

They are not that expensive. Some 65 US Dollars is the market price. They originally come with ceramic socket.
They can take up to around 60 or 70 watt light bulps, running at 220/240 volt.

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Don't eat stuff off a 15 year old never cleaned cpu cooler.
Those cakes make you sick....

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Reply 37634 of 37759, by gex85

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Today I made a nice purchase: The Turtle Beach Montego II Plus, an Aureal Vortex 2 card with an additional daughterboard with SPDIF and RCA connectors. There are quite a few threads about this card, like this one.
I saw an eBay listing for a Dell XPS Pentium III machine the other day, starting at 65€ + shipping. And it had this card in it. I was really tempted to buy the whole system, but apart from the soundcard it was a pretty basic setup with a P3-500 and Nvidia TNT. I always liked the design of the XPS machines of that era, but I already have too many systems of this vintage and the price wasn't exactly cheap. The auction ended with zero bids... Although it doesn't feel good to rip a system like this apart, I contacted the seller and offered him a fair price for the card and he agreed.

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Reply 37635 of 37759, by gex85

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And another good deal (at least I think so). A lot consisting of:

  • M396F motherboard with AMD 386SX-40 CPU. My first 386 ever, usually I'm more interested in the late 90s and early 2000s stuff, but it was in the lot, so why not.
  • MB-8433UUD-A motherboard, UMC chipset, AMD 486DX4-100 CPU installed. I don't have a working 486 motherboard with PCI yet, so it's a welcome addition to the collection.
  • Shuttle HOT-591P Ver. 2.0 motherboard (Super Socket 7, Via MVP3). Since the Gigabyte GA-5AA that I am currently building a system around is acting up and refuses to POST every so often, it might get replaced with this Shuttle board. It was the main reason for me to get this lot, actually.
  • Tseng ET4000AX ISA video card, no details are known. Might be made by "Ara-Tech" according to the sticker on the BIOS chip...
  • Some mystery ISA interface card, looks like a PS/2 mouse connector or something. Labelled "HS - 3000 REV2", haven't found any useful info on a quick first attempt.

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Got this lot for 35€ shipped, so it's like 7€ per piece. Everything's untested, of course, so fingers crossed that some of it still works.

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Reply 37637 of 37759, by Horun

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gex85 wrote on 2021-01-14, 22:55:
And another good deal (at least I think so). A lot consisting of: […]
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And another good deal (at least I think so). A lot consisting of:

  • M396F motherboard with AMD 386SX-40 CPU. My first 386 ever, usually I'm more interested in the late 90s and early 2000s stuff, but it was in the lot, so why not.
  • MB-8433UUD-A motherboard, UMC chipset, AMD 486DX4-100 CPU installed. I don't have a working 486 motherboard with PCI yet, so it's a welcome addition to the collection.
  • Shuttle HOT-591P Ver. 2.0 motherboard (Super Socket 7, Via MVP3). Since the Gigabyte GA-5AA that I am currently building a system around is acting up and refuses to POST every so often, it might get replaced with this Shuttle board. It was the main reason for me to get this lot, actually.
  • Tseng ET4000AX ISA video card, no details are known. Might be made by "Ara-Tech" according to the sticker on the BIOS chip...
  • Some mystery ISA interface card, looks like a PS/2 mouse connector or something. Labelled "HS - 3000 REV2", haven't found any useful info on a quick first attempt.

Got this lot for 35€ shipped, so it's like 7€ per piece. Everything's untested, of course, so fingers crossed that some of it still works.

Nice ! Good price for lot of goodies !

Went to the local SA store and found a boxed XFX GF 9400 GT (PVT94G-YAL) for $3. Took a gamble and it works ! I needed a low profile PCIe for an InWin desktop case.
Not a speed demon card but has 128bit memory (versus 64bit on some 9400GT) and good enough for my purpose.

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Hate posting a reply and have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. 🤣 Second computer a 286 12Mhz with real IDE drive ! After that came 386, 486, Pentium, P.Pro and everything after....

Reply 37638 of 37759, by chrismeyer6

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For 3 bucks that 9400 is a good deal. Back in the day my wife's computer came with one of them and it was quite decent. Back in those days we were vary much into WOW and that card ran WOW beautifully.

Reply 37639 of 37759, by imi

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brostenen wrote on 2021-01-14, 19:09:
Not computer hardware. I bought this lamp that have 1970's design. I could not resist. And yes, it is made in the 1970's. True D […]
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Not computer hardware.
I bought this lamp that have 1970's design. I could not resist. And yes, it is made in the 1970's.
True Danish design from that era. I simply love it.

They are not that expensive. Some 65 US Dollars is the market price. They originally come with ceramic socket.
They can take up to around 60 or 70 watt light bulps, running at 220/240 volt.

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I nabbed a similar design table lamp from the office move, also from the 70s/80s ^^ I really like those for some reasons

that's some nice stuff @gex85