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Reply 38160 of 38717, by Tetrium

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W.x. wrote on 2021-02-20, 21:34:
Tetrium wrote on 2021-02-20, 21:11:

Imo always a good thing to think for yourself, also with regards to these MX cards. These MX cards were considered the bottom of the barrel, so not many people actually cared much for these cards back then. They were considered fodder and there were masses of them!

Well, I don't agree with it. Maybe in some wealthy countries, where everyone had 2000$-3000$ salary as average Here, salaries around year 2000 were like 300-400$ or something like that. GTS and Ultra versions was almost not sold here. MX was considered mid-range card, and was bought by masses here. Also all gaming magazines and sites with hardware recommended it, and most gamers (kids/young people) in that time could not afford GTS or Ultra version. I would say, out of all Geforce 2 series, like 90% cards was sold as MX, and only 10% as GTS (at least here). I would guess, similiar situation was in other post-socialistic countries too, and wuold not be suprised, if also in Brazil, south America, Mexico, and some Asian countries too.

I was talking about the MX cards and apparently we share the same opinion about their popularity, so no idea why you are bringing up the high-end cards now but whatever.
Most people here in The Netherlands bought OEM computers and those usually had either an MX or onboard graphics at the time. Sure, older generations were still often for sale here but they would usually have a terrible price/performance ratio and would barely sell.
Years later I was there revamping old computers for repurpose and I can guarantee you that MX was widely used here while I barely ever saw any of the higher end cards. Heck, I didn't even have a single GF4 non-MX card for years even though I already had basically 2 kiwi boxes of MX cards 🤣

Anyway, was merely adding in some background information and afaic I've said what I wanted to say.

Unfortunately I haven't purchased anything retro in a while now, if only because thrift stores are selling less and less of them and because they have been closed down a lot in the last year due to covid.

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Reply 38161 of 38717, by CrFr

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Bought this Toshiba Satellite 220CS for 5€ + shipping. I don't have a suitable power supply for it to test it, but i think it is Pentium 133MHz, at least 16MB RAM, 800x600 screen, Yamaha OPL3-SA3 SB Pro compatible sound card.

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Reply 38162 of 38717, by yawetaG

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CMB75 wrote on 2021-02-20, 11:10:

Edit: This one came a little late to the party. It was loosely packed in an envelope... welcome test candidate 1 for 50MHz FSB.

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Don't expect much stability or being able to run 3 VLB cards at once...

Reply 38163 of 38717, by Kamerat

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Acquired this beauty yesterday.

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Reply 38164 of 38717, by debs3759

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Gabriel-LG wrote on 2021-02-20, 20:19:
Hail to the king, baby :D GoldenOrb1.png […]
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Hail to the king, baby 😁
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I never thought I'd find a Golden Orb, let alone NOS. I am so happy 😀
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On a side note, I always thought that the Titan Majesty-IV was a Golden Orb rip-off (I was happy to find one nonetheless). However, before installing, I saw that it has Thermaltake stamped on the heatsink... It just makes me wonder why.

I have the same cooler in a box. Didn't realise I had the sought after Golden Orb, as have so many unstarted projects that I hadn't opened the box.

See my graphics card database at www.gpuzoo.com
Constantly being worked on. Feel free to message me with any corrections or details of cards you would like me to research and add.

Reply 38165 of 38717, by CMB75

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yawetaG wrote on 2021-02-21, 10:38:
CMB75 wrote on 2021-02-20, 11:10:

Edit: This one came a little late to the party. It was loosely packed in an envelope... welcome test candidate 1 for 50MHz FSB.

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Don't expect much stability or being able to run 3 VLB cards at once...

I don’t. I’ve got two VLB cards certified and tested working at 50Mhz and I don’t need more than those two cards. Known to work without wait states. The only culprit could be the mainboard as I’m not in possession of an Superboard VLB... but I have a generic Opti895 coming my way.

Almost the setup I had in ‘93.

Reply 38166 of 38717, by crvs

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Got these today for $20. Green one is dead, but the gold one has passed all tests.

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Reply 38167 of 38717, by Wolfus

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Bancho wrote on 2021-02-19, 21:09:
Wolfus wrote on 2021-02-19, 18:48:
Bancho wrote on 2021-02-17, 10:16:

Picked up a very cheap boxed Boss DR-330 "Dr.Synth" midi module with manual today. Battery had started to leak but I removed it and there is no damage. Unit works great

Any chance you bought it from Austria? Along with Roland keys?

No, I bought this off UK eBay.

I was overran by somebody few days ago. Anyway, how do you like DR-330?

Reply 38168 of 38717, by ODwilly

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crvs wrote on 2021-02-21, 17:48:

Got these today for $20. Green one is dead, but the gold one has passed all tests.

The green one may only work in the pc chips m919 motherboard. IIRC pcchips liked to use non-standard pinouts for some of the COAST slots on their motherboards.

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Retro PC: Soyo P4S Dragon, 3gb ddr 266, 120gb Maxtor, Geforce Fx 5950 Ultra, SB Live! 5.1

Reply 38169 of 38717, by crvs

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ODwilly wrote on 2021-02-22, 07:04:
crvs wrote on 2021-02-21, 17:48:

Got these today for $20. Green one is dead, but the gold one has passed all tests.

The green one may only work in the pc chips m919 motherboard. IIRC pcchips liked to use non-standard pinouts for some of the COAST slots on their motherboards.

They are both for m919. That's all the fun 😀

Reply 38170 of 38717, by Gabriel-LG

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dulu wrote on 2021-02-20, 23:06:

In which place? I had titan orb but didn`t notice thermaltake logo.

debs3759 wrote on 2021-02-21, 12:46:

I have the same cooler in a box. Didn't realise I had the sought after Golden Orb, as have so many unstarted projects that I hadn't opened the box.

It is on the front, on the motherboard side. When the CPU is installed the inscription cannot be seen:

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Reply 38171 of 38717, by pentiumspeed

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Back in the day, I discovered one of low quality memory SIMMs had open vias.

You might want to check your non-working pc-chips M919 modules for this.

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Reply 38172 of 38717, by shamino

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Just won an auction for an Atari 800XL. I'm more excited about that than anything I've bought in a long time.
I never had an Atari computer as a kid but I think it would have been perfect, and I've been admiring them for years.
Finally I took the plunge and bought one. It doesn't come with a PSU, and then I'll find out if it's faulty in any other way, but I think it won't be too hard to get going.

Reply 38173 of 38717, by draetheus

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I have taken to scrapping thrift store PCs when looking for optical drives as its much cheaper than ordering them off eBay. First one I scrapped was a beat up P4 Dell circa 2003. Only useful things I got out of it were the DVD drive and some slow DDR 266 RAM. The motherboard had bulging caps, the CD drive was extremely slow and loud, and the GPU was a dirty Matrox G400 that I couldn't get a signal out of on a working machine (3.3v agp maybe?)

Yesterday I scrapped an Athlon 64 HP circa 2005 in much better condition. This has an interesting motherboard, the Asus K8S-LA, which is a SiS 760 board that looks very similar to the K8S-MX. Paired with an Athlon 64 3300+, it makes for a very speedy but compatible Win 98 machine! Funny enough, the CD drive on this system worked, but the DVD drive was busted. It was also missing RAM and had no external GPU, but obviously I had some RAM lying around, and the thrift store had a FX 5200 in a MX440 box for a couple bucks. I now have a second fully functional Athlon 64 system xD. Not sure what I'll do with it other than use it as a part/software tester (although that in itself will be nice to keep my primary Athlon 64 FX build pristine). I will probably rehome it in a new case as I absolutely HATE the fat plasticky bezel look of those mid 00s OEM systems.

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Reply 38174 of 38717, by bjwil1991

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Bought the following from TexElec's site:

1) Foam contact pads for the Compaq Portable
2) CF-IDE adapter

From eBay (screenshot):
1) 360KB internal FDD for writing 360KB diskettes
2) 256MB industrial CF card for the Compaq Portable
3) CT1350B w/ the CMS upgrade and comes with manuals and diskettes (for a Sound Blaster Pro and others)

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Reply 38175 of 38717, by H3nrik V!

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draetheus wrote on 2021-02-22, 23:39:

I have taken to scrapping thrift store PCs when looking for optical drives as its much cheaper than ordering them off eBay. First one I scrapped was a beat up P4 Dell circa 2003. Only useful things I got out of it were the DVD drive and some slow DDR 266 RAM. The motherboard had bulging caps, the CD drive was extremely slow and loud, and the GPU was a dirty Matrox G400 that I couldn't get a signal out of on a working machine (3.3v agp maybe?)

I've had issues back in the days with both G400 as well as G100 where card's BIOS has been corrupted. It didn't show any picture while in text mode, but as soon as it booted into Windows, it worked fine, including running 3dmark etc. Both could be fixed using an automated BIOS flashing floppy. Might be worth a shot?

Please use the "quote" option if asking questions to what I write - it will really up the chances of me noticing 😀

Reply 38176 of 38717, by draetheus

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H3nrik V! wrote on 2021-02-23, 04:16:
draetheus wrote on 2021-02-22, 23:39:

I have taken to scrapping thrift store PCs when looking for optical drives as its much cheaper than ordering them off eBay. First one I scrapped was a beat up P4 Dell circa 2003. Only useful things I got out of it were the DVD drive and some slow DDR 266 RAM. The motherboard had bulging caps, the CD drive was extremely slow and loud, and the GPU was a dirty Matrox G400 that I couldn't get a signal out of on a working machine (3.3v agp maybe?)

I've had issues back in the days with both G400 as well as G100 where card's BIOS has been corrupted. It didn't show any picture while in text mode, but as soon as it booted into Windows, it worked fine, including running 3dmark etc. Both could be fixed using an automated BIOS flashing floppy. Might be worth a shot?

Interesting, I'll give it a try with windows preinstalled and see if that works.

Reply 38177 of 38717, by Ozzuneoj

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I was never one to seek out boxed hardware, but I couldn't pass up this opportunity.

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Cirrus Logic CL GD5434 2MB ISA VGA card, manufactured in 1998... manufactured for who exactly, I have no idea! Can't imagine there was much of a demand for high performance video on the ISA bus at that point.

When I got it it was 100% brand new, unused, aside from the box being opened and a little beat up. The card and books are pristine. One of the disks looked a little warped but thankfully all three of them were able to be read, so I made raw disk images of them with rawwrite. The images are attached below. Feel free to upload them to the vogons library. 😀

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I'm looking forward to doing a mass benchmarking of ISA and VLB cards, now that I finally have a CL GD5434 to cover the top end of ISA. This one will almost certainly take the crown in most benchmarks, though I imagine the ISA bus is the bottleneck in 90% of them. I'd like to run benchmarks in DOS, 3.11 and Windows 95 to get the full spectrum of performance and GUI acceleration. Not sure what board and CPU I'll use just yet. Some kind of fast 586 or overdrive most likely. Maybe both in some benchmarks... or a 386 just for kicks? 😀

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 38178 of 38717, by CMB75

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I bought a NOS MS basic optical mouse in box,

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a NOS Orchid Fahrenheit 64 VLB and

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a generic 486 VLB mainboard with the Opti 895 chipset. I found several brands selling mainboards with an identical layout. Maybe the BIOS string will point me to the actual make.

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