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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 20000 of 52757, by BitWrangler

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I snagged a sealed copy of a VideoLogic DVD-Player MPEG2 accelerator card for ~ 12 USD shipped.

For those ppl that insist that a 6x86 PR166+ has to be able to play DVDs 😁

No but serious, many 2nd wave 3D accels had mp2 acceleration in and 400Mhz was enough to do it in 100% software. I never saw the point of these. IDK if that's why they are rare/sought now, or just one of those oddities with a cool box.

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Reply 20001 of 52757, by appiah4

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As I posted earlier in this thread, I saw this PC for sale online for a very reasonable price of $10; I drove out and bought it, thinking it would be a boring Pentium MMX 166 build with an S3 Trio card. I didn't really care, I was just after the inverted AT case, something I had never seen before done in an AT PC.

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I took it home, and noticed that it wasn't a custom built PC, but rather a PC produced by a local OEM (Aidata) with the model number Multima 133. Curiously I opened it up, and the contents kind of surprised me. This PC is rather far from its original configuration, and has been upgraded extensively in the 4-5 years it has been used.

The modetherboard has been replaced with a ZIDA Tomato LX98-CT, one of the more popular Celeron motherboards of the time IIRC:

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The CPU is a Celeron 400, a rather popular overclockers CPU (though what it's doing on a 66MHz motherboard, don't ask me.)

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The system had 3 128MB SD-RAM sticks installed, rather large for its time, and this leads me to believe that the configuration was used all the way into the Windows XP era.

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Now onto the expansion cards, starting from the most boring. A VIA VT6212L USB2.0 control card; I didn't have one of these, and could use them in one of my USB 1.1 Pentium systems.

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An 8-bit ISA modem.  The chipset appears to be 28.8Kbps but the model number lookup returns a 33.6 Kpbs part, probably software accelerated somehow. Takes me back all the way to the times of 4KB per second downloads of disk games. I miss the times of dialup BBSs so much..

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The sound card is a Genius brand ES1868F Audiodrive.  It has both an IDE header and a wavetable header. ESS Audiodrivers are a chipset I like as much as true OPL3. I owned an ES1897 card but wanted an ES1868 as well (Although I don't really know the difference between EX18XX chipsets and would love to learn), so this was a great find.

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And finally the graphics card, a Voodoo 3 3000 AGP, a variant I hadn't seen before as it has no TV-Out. It's likely an OEM card from an HP/Compaq/Dell or similar PC and bought second hand for this build. Another proof that the PC was used up until the Windows XP era as I don't see many people selling these off before then.

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All in all, a pleasant surprise for $10. Now I need to restore this Aidata Multima 1333 to its original configuration (Pentium 133) as a fun side project. It's a welcome project too, since my AT 486 build failed and I need a decent DOS PC anyway, this will do just fine I would think.

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Reply 20002 of 52757, by CkRtech

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I hope you have better luck with this one, appiah4.

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Reply 20003 of 52757, by BitWrangler

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Usually the celeron models in the 300s were more sought, because it became known that they topped out at 600Mhz and the mid 500s were best if you wanted a rock solid, non-tweaky system. So you wouldn't really want to get a 400 6x multi one for a 100mhz bus in case it wouldn't get there. However you could probably go 6x75 or 83 with it, for 450 or 500.

I had a 366 I pin modded to 100mhz and dropped in an i810 board, where it served a family member well for a number of years. Have a 433 "in stock" at the moment.

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Reply 20005 of 52757, by appiah4

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These also came in the mail today:

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Sound Blaster AWE64 Value (My 4th Value card, gotta stop buying these on impulse)

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Voodoo 3 1000 16MB (My 3rd Voodoo 3, hope to trade one for a Voodoo 1 some day..)

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Reply 20006 of 52757, by Batyra

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Today postman brought me:

Kenwood fastest CD-ROM True-X

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Cyrix MII 400GP - hope to find 433 someday...

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Reply 20007 of 52757, by Radical Vision

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kixs wrote:

Radical Vision:

I take it you are doing the socket pin mod so you can get the higher multipliers as well as the modded Barton BIOS for it, correct?

I've got an XP-M 2800+ running on my KT7A at about 2.4Ghz.

Nope i just use mobile Barton on the best 462 motherboard out there ABIT NF7-S V2. But for the old IDE RAID ABIT i can find other processor, but not much space for second 462 machine...

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These also came in the mail today:

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Sound Blaster AWE64 Value (My 4th Value card, gotta stop buying these on impulse)

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Voodoo 3 1000 16MB (My 3rd Voodoo 3, hope to trade one for a Voodoo 1 some day..)

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You don`t have 3Dfx Voodoo 1 really 🤣... I have bunch of them, one black voodoo 1 for me, one green for sale, second one black sky 3D also for sale, and last one is Diamond Voodoo 1 i literally can trow voodoo 1 on people.... And that is even without the whole 3Dfx cards i will get soon....

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IBM x2 P3 933/ GA-6VXD7/ Voodoo V 5.5K
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Reply 20008 of 52757, by appiah4

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Would love it if you threw one at me for a fair price really..

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Reply 20009 of 52757, by debs3759

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Batyra wrote:

Today postman brought me:Cyrix MII 400GP - hope to find 433 someday...

Are you sure they ever made one? It's not in any collection I know of, including CPU-World

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Reply 20010 of 52757, by deleted_Rc

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got in a a new dragon case (for some parts for my current dragon case)
a working system was included.
Asus P4C800 Deluxe with a 3 Ghz CPU (Northwood SL6WK), 1.5 Gb ram and a Geforce 6600 GT

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Reply 20011 of 52757, by Jade Falcon

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debs3759 wrote:
Batyra wrote:

Today postman brought me:Cyrix MII 400GP - hope to find 433 someday...

Are you sure they ever made one? It's not in any collection I know of, including CPU-World

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Reply 20012 of 52757, by SW-SSG

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appiah4 wrote:

The CPU is a Celeron 400, a rather popular overclockers CPU (though what it's doing on a 66MHz motherboard, don't ask me.)

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Celeron 400's stock bus is 66MHz, so that seems pretty fitting I would think? Also, that's no Celeron...... (photo shows a P133).

Nice find. Years ago I had a system with similar "inverted" baby AT case, and it also turned out to be a whitebox machine.

Reply 20013 of 52757, by BitWrangler

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debs3759 wrote:
Batyra wrote:

Today postman brought me:Cyrix MII 400GP - hope to find 433 someday...

Are you sure they ever made one? It's not in any collection I know of, including CPU-World

There were at least some review samples around
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1187&page=1

Even if it's thought they were a "paper part" production wise.

Note it had a die shrink. MIIs were notorious for hitting a brick wall just below 300Mhz, even with chilled water and higher volts.... it's thought that most 400s were "golden sample" bins from the original MII process, and were very few in number. However.... the die shrink appears to have worked wonders so if you're lucky enough to find a .18 micron 400GP it may have quite a bit of headroom.

Edit: Here's ur pix...

http://www.chipdb.org/cat-433-179.htm

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Reply 20014 of 52757, by Bancho

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These two showed up today. I been looking at the Korg's for a while now and saw these two listed together for the price that NS5R's seem to be going at. Thinking of selling on the Roland to cover the cost of the Korg. Will obviously try it out and try and get some recordings before doing that.

Reply 20016 of 52757, by appiah4

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SW-SSG wrote:
appiah4 wrote:

The CPU is a Celeron 400, a rather popular overclockers CPU (though what it's doing on a 66MHz motherboard, don't ask me.)

http://image.bolterandchainsword.com/uploads/ … 1505_443739.jpg

Celeron 400's stock bus is 66MHz, so that seems pretty fitting I would think? Also, that's no Celeron...... (photo shows a P133).

Nice find. Years ago I had a system with similar "inverted" baby AT case, and it also turned out to be a whitebox machine.

Yeah, just thought they would have gone for a 100MHz board to try and hit that sweet 600MHz.

And yes, the photo is wrong, I will update it ASAP.

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Reply 20017 of 52757, by Radical Vision

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appiah4 wrote:

Would love it if you threw one at me for a fair price really..

Well i can, not sure what is the right price for Voodoo 1, and there is a problem, i don`t buy from ebay, and i don`t buy things from around the world so i don`t have a clue how to sell you something...
Last time with Noctua RMA was really bad, but in the end i did manage to get the new replacement fan....

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These two showed up today. I been looking at the Korg's for a while now and saw these two listed together for the price that NS5R's seem to be going at. Thinking of selling on the Roland to cover the cost of the Korg. Will obviously try it out and try and get some recordings before doing that.

The hell.... What is these front panels on the 5.25 place ? I like all possible front panels i can get and put on my machines, like fan controller such as Scythe Kaze master pro, Cooler Master Musketeer 2 and Musketeer 3, Creative Sound Blaster panels and other things that mostly for the looks, not the functionality...

Mah systems retro, old, newer (Radical stuff)
W3680 4.5/ GA-x58 UD7/ R9 280x
K7 2.6/ NF7-S/ HD3850
IBM x2 P3 933/ GA-6VXD7/ Voodoo V 5.5K
Cmq P2 450/ GA-BX2000/ V2 SLI
IBM PC365
Cmq DeskPRO 486/33
IBM PS/2 Model 56
SPS IntelleXT 8088

Reply 20019 of 52757, by cyclone3d

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Found a video cross-converter that supposedly supports ALL PC resolutions up to 2048x2048, HD resolutions up to 1080 and refresh rates up to 250Hz for cheap.

Anybody care to guess what brand and model it is?

Not going to post full details until it arrives and I have a chance to test it because, if it works like it says it does, I want to order a second one to have for a backup.

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