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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 21461 of 52626, by havli

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keropi wrote:

had one of these boards for 24/7 internet stuff - really good. update us when you make a case 😀

Yeah, I will make a separate thread in the "System Specs" section. But it will take time, lot of time I think. 🤣 As a first step I must finish my 3D printer assembly, then learn how to draw and model 3D objects on PC... and then I can start planning how to design the case. 😀

I will check the fan and replace it if needed.

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Reply 21462 of 52626, by appiah4

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Scored a second (actually a third, but I had sold my second to a begging friend and regretted ever since) Voodoo 3 3000 AGP out of nowhere, but it has a different heatsink than I am used to. All 3000s I ever owned had their heatsinks attached to the PCB with metal pins, this one looks glued on, and misoriented to boot. Seller says the card works but I can't get over how funny the heatsink looks in his photo.. Will this be trouble?

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Reply 21464 of 52626, by dionb

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Good news! The postman came today at last, here's the haul (not just today's, but coming in in drips and drabs over the last few weeks):

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From right to left

  • Iiyama HM704UTC flatscreen Diamondtron CRT
  • Aztech I38-MMSN824 (Sound Galaxy Washington 16)
  • Miro Crystal 20SV PCI (rev G) VGA
  • Dawicontrol DC-974 SE SCSI (with bootROM)
  • Asus PI/XP55T2P4 rev. 3.00 So7 i430HX motherboard
  • 4x 16MB EDO 60ns 72p SIMM
  • Fortron Source FSP350-60PN(PF) PSU, 350W with -12V and -5V lines and most of the oomph on the +5V line, but also decent +12V, a P4 connector and some SATA too.
  • K6-166ALR
  • K6-2 450AFX
  • K6-3+ 400ATZ
  • an 8b ISA serial/parallel card with no FCC ID or info other than "BB-10-88". Serial ports driven by UM82450, parallel by UM82C11, chips dated w51 1989 (or slightly older)
  • Aztech CNR2800 analog modem
  • AVM Fritz!Card PCI ISDN Controller
  • Noname ATX minitower case, real 2000 razor-sharp aluminium vintage, with PSU over motherboard, so nice and compact (and crap to work in)
  • Transcend 1GB and 2GB CF cards
  • Noname (AliExpress sourced) CF-to-IDE adapters, one external, one internal

In other words, I'm back in vintage/So7 business 😎

The idea is to introduce my 5 year-old son to the joys of building computers, first with a very basic Pentium 100(@75MHz) build, then letting him hit the limits (courtesy of Windows 3.11) and let him slowly upgrade and overclock until we have that thing stacked with K6-3+ at 400MHz or higher (if I can get the FSB over 66MHz), 256MB (or 512MB if I can dig up some 128MB SIMMs) of RAM and maybe a better GPU and sound card.

Regardless of the build, this PSU and monitor should handle anything So7/370/A we throw at them, in fact the monitor looked great when testing as secondary screen next to my Dell 23" QHD TFT 😉

As for the other bits, SCSI is always useful, but I have no practical use whatsoever for the 8b I/O card, the ISDN card or the CNR thingy. The CNR2800 is a bit of nostalgia though, I had to support that thing back in the day when I worked for Packard Bell's helpdesk, and occasionally saw the Aztech Sound Galaxy 16 too. If I'm really bored one day I might set up an Asterisk server just to let me use the CNR2800 - if I have a system with CNR slots that is...

First things first though: testing this stuff 😀

Reply 21465 of 52626, by dionb

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Arr testicles 🙁

That beautiful XP55T2P4 motherboard is completely dead. I hooked up a minimal config with (underclocked) CPU, RAM, VGA, PSU and a POST-diagnostic card, fired it up and... 00 code on the diag and a smell of very, very unhappy electronics. After testing all the peripherals on another system (worked fine) I gave it another go. Same again. Then started feeling components to find out where the smell was coming from. CPU was cold, VRM heatsinks and caps too. But the 82439HX northbridge was insanely hot. On closer inspection there was a discoloration in the BGA package corresponding to the shape of the actual die, and over one corner of it the plastic was actually cracked. Dead as a dornail. Next question was whether I buggered up. Nope, once I knew where to look I saw the discoloration in the eBay pics for the item. So much for "Funktion war bis zur Zerlegung gegeben!". In fact I doubt whether this board ever worked properly. The TAG RAM socket is mounted oddly, with one end a few mms off the motherboard, as if someone tried to desolder it and pull it off. Don't think anyone actually did that, as there are no signs of soldering around the pins, so looks more like manufacturing defect. A short-circuit in the cache circuitry could explain how the northbridge could get so hot.

This is what it looks like:
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At least the PSU and CF stuff works fine. I've installed MS-DOS 6.22 on the smaller of the cards. Now to find another motherboard, this time one that works...

Reply 21466 of 52626, by beastlike

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Reply 21467 of 52626, by luckybob

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I love the model 25. Got 5 of them even. ^.^

Honestly, I love to use them for text based adventures, or similar. I want to use the 286 version, but I can't find a ISA riser card. If by chance yours is a 286, can I get the part number off this riser? will probably say FPU ##X#### (X is a letter).

once I get that riser, i'll use a normal SB16, and outfit mine with scsi so I can get rid of the damned hard drive. They are so unreliable I cannot even write a proper analogy.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 21468 of 52626, by appiah4

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kixs wrote:

Don't worry. Both versions of the cooler were official releases.

Is the crooked orientation a factory mistake then? I'm concerned that if the heatsink got twisted like that later on it may have caused damage? I bought the card anyway so we'll know soon enough 😀

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Reply 21470 of 52626, by blurks

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Orchid Fahrenheit 1280° Plus (1024 kB, S3 801) and a Video Seven VRAM VGA (512 kB)

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Reply 21471 of 52626, by CkRtech

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Beautiful packaging for beautiful card ... slightly ruined by a sticker. 😁

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Reply 21472 of 52626, by liqmat

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blurks wrote:

Orchid Fahrenheit 1280° Plus (1024 kB, S3 801) and a Video Seven VRAM VGA (512 kB)

What a disappointment for the one who purchased this back in the day thinking his card would be rainbow colored.

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Reply 21473 of 52626, by jaZz_KCS

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liqmat wrote:
blurks wrote:

Orchid Fahrenheit 1280° Plus (1024 kB, S3 801) and a Video Seven VRAM VGA (512 kB)

What a disappointment for the one who purchased this back in the day thinking his card would be rainbow colored.

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2/10 - "Not festive enough..."

Reply 21474 of 52626, by cyclone3d

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My AWE64 collection will soon be complete as soon as the last card I wanted arrives - except for the cut down ones that don't allow RAM upgrades.

Finally found a AWE64 Gold! CT4540 for a decent price.

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Reply 21475 of 52626, by blurks

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Just received another package: ELSA Victory Erazor (4 MB, nVidia Riva128). Like-new condition.

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Reply 21476 of 52626, by cyclone3d

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How about an original Geforce 3 for super cheap because the title/description was pretty horrible and in the wrong category.

This version of the card came with/without DVI. The one I am getting doesn't have DVI. Should I try adding DVI?

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Reply 21478 of 52626, by havli

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cyclone3d wrote:

Should I try adding DVI?

It is much easier to get anothet GF3 with DVI than adding it to this one. It is not just the connector but also TMDS transmitter and many other components.... all this is missing on your card.

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Reply 21479 of 52626, by cyclone3d

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havli wrote:
cyclone3d wrote:

Should I try adding DVI?

It is much easier to get anothet GF3 with DVI than adding it to this one. It is not just the connector but also TMDS transmitter and many other components.... all this is missing on your card.

Gothcha. No biggie, just thought it might be worth a try.

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