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Reply 25560 of 52742, by dirkmirk

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With the socket 8 adapter they were only limited by the fsb essentially, which is typically 66mhz and why the tualatin celeron is the max CPU(14X66=933mhz).

I see no reason why they couldn't have made an adapter for the socket 370 celeron(mendocino) for the socket 7 platform to achieve the same outcome, ASFAIK the powerleap adapters with a k6-2/400 were the max cpu combos for standard socket 7, although same of the earlier boards did support higher fsb for overclocking.

Back to the socket 8 powerleap adapter...

I put an offer and was countered by $200USD, aussie dollar is poor And with shipping would have been around $350 delivered (AUD), looks like it was a bullet dodged as I don't have the skills to repair computer parts.

Bloody shame as it's the only missing piece to the puzzle, I have a powerleap neo & Lin Lin adapter ready to go for a tualatin setup flin my Intel PR440FX at 980mhz(14x70).

Reply 25561 of 52742, by xjas

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dirkmirk wrote:

I see no reason why they couldn't have made an adapter for the socket 370 celeron(mendocino) for the socket 7 platform to achieve the same outcome,

The chipset has to at least support the general platform of the CPU being used. P-Pro & P2/P3 were essentially revisions of the same P6 core, very different from the Pentium or P-MMX. It's the same reason you can run a Pentium Pro in a slocket on an LX or BX board. There's no Socket 7 chipset in existence which 'natively' supports the P6.

Technically the K6 & Cyrix 6x86 series were also very different from the Pentium series, but they were specifically designed to be compatible with the existing Socket 5/7 way of doing things.

If I'm dead wrong here, please correct me, but my understanding is that it won't work.

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Reply 25562 of 52742, by hard1k

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Guys, guys... P5 and P6 are totally different and use differents system bus, so no Socket7-Socket8 adapter is possible in any way.

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Reply 25563 of 52742, by bjwil1991

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xjas wrote:
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dirkmirk wrote:

I see no reason why they couldn't have made an adapter for the socket 370 celeron(mendocino) for the socket 7 platform to achieve the same outcome,

The chipset has to at least support the general platform of the CPU being used. P-Pro & P2/P3 were essentially revisions of the same P6 core, very different from the Pentium or P-MMX. It's the same reason you can run a Pentium Pro in a slocket on an LX or BX board. There's no Socket 7 chipset in existence which 'natively' supports the P6.

Technically the K6 & Cyrix 6x86 series were also very different from the Pentium series, but they were specifically designed to be compatible with the existing Socket 5/7 way of doing things.

If I'm dead wrong here, please correct me, but my understanding is that it won't work.

You're correct. I'm intrigued to see a Socket 370 CPU being used in a Socket 8 system.

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Reply 25564 of 52742, by liqmat

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Skyscraper wrote:
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bjwil1991 wrote:

Wait... What adapter is that? Never seen one before, and is that for a Socket 8 motherboard that converts it to Socket 370 with the voltage regulation for the processors? That is really weird to see that.

That is exactly what it is,

Out of the box it only takes Mendocino Celerons but with the use of a PPGA to FCPGA adapter it will take Coppermines and if you also stack a FCPGA to FCPGA2 adapter on the top of the other two adapters if will take Tualatins.

I guess you can double stack two LIN LINs as it can be configured both as PPGA ---> FCPGA and FCPGA ---> FCPGA2 depending on how you jumper it. I use a NEO s370 + a LIN LIN in my other Socket 8 to PPGA (S370) adapter and that combination works fine.

I got some sort of CPU adapter in that massive PPro haul a few weeks back new in box. Have found two of these so far, but not quite sure what adapter it is.

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Reply 25565 of 52742, by bjwil1991

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My 2 cents: possibly a Socket 5 to Socket 7 adapter to allow the use of the Pentium MMX or K6 processors (correct me if I'm wrong here).

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Reply 25566 of 52742, by blurks

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If you ask me, the damage of (at least) one of the chips can be clearly seen. But I agree, the description is misleading as he states, the items can either be used for recycling or for usage which would imply a working condition of all components.

Reply 25567 of 52742, by Intel486dx33

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Reply 25568 of 52742, by realoldguy23

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bjwil1991 wrote:

My 2 cents: possibly a Socket 5 to Socket 7 adapter to allow the use of the Pentium MMX or K6 processors (correct me if I'm wrong here).

Either this or a single-voltage Socket 7 to split-voltage Socket 7 adapter. Maybe the adapter covers both use cases. P55C is the Pentium MMX and K6 is its counterpart from AMD. Unfortunately this has a linear voltage regulator. I guess that's why it says "K6-L". The regulator will get fairly hot if you put a K6-PR200 in it and you don't let fan blow directly on it.

Reply 25569 of 52742, by dionb

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bjwil1991 wrote:

My 2 cents: possibly a Socket 5 to Socket 7 adapter to allow the use of the Pentium MMX or K6 processors (correct me if I'm wrong here).

More or less 😉

Thing is, the difference between So5 and So7 is that So7 has a second multiplier pin and the possibility to use split voltage. If you're not using that second multiplier pin and your board doesn't support split voltage, So5 and So7 are completely identical, so you don't need any kind of adapter. So the So5 vs So7 bit isn't relevant. What is, is the voltage, and that's what this adapter does: it supplies 2.8V (and possibly other voltages too) with a split-voltage plane, so you can run split voltage CPUs (such as the P55C Pentium MMX and K6) on a motherboard (either So5 or So7) that only has a single voltage plane. Looking at the jumpers it probably also allows modification of the multiplier, to allow 2.5x and 3x (and maybe higher if it also implements the third multiplier bit) on an So5 board.

Reply 25570 of 52742, by appiah4

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Got this in the mail, finally.

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Tested to see if it works.. And she bangs! She bangs!

This was my originally intended card for my Socket 754 system but in the meantime I obtained an X1950PRO AGP.. Stick to that, or replace with this? Choices..

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Reply 25571 of 52742, by Skyscraper

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dirkmirk wrote:

Back to the socket 8 powerleap adapter...

I put an offer and was countered by $200USD, aussie dollar is poor And with shipping would have been around $350 delivered (AUD), looks like it was a bullet dodged as I don't have the skills to repair computer parts.

Bloody shame as it's the only missing piece to the puzzle, I have a powerleap neo & Lin Lin adapter ready to go for a tualatin setup flin my Intel PR440FX at 980mhz(14x70).

I paid $180 (USD) but the shipping was not expensive and I dodged some of the VAT because the seller "somehow mistyped" the value on the customs form...

With shipping and fees the totel ended up at about $215 but as long as the adapter behaves better* with new caps I'm happy. If the loose socket hinders me from stacking adapters it's not the end of the world as I think I prefer to run two Mendocino Celeron 533 in one of my PR440FX boards anyhow.

* I did not get it to post again after that successful post where I ran Speedsys

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Reply 25572 of 52742, by Srandista

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appiah4 wrote:

Got this in the mail, finally.

Radeon 9800 Pro?

appiah4 wrote:

This was my originally intended card for my Socket 754 system but in the meantime I obtained an X1950PRO AGP.. Stick to that, or replace with this? Choices..

Are you planning to use 98? If yes, X1950 is out of the question. Otherwise, for XP it's clearly faster choice.

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Reply 25573 of 52742, by appiah4

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Srandista wrote:
appiah4 wrote:

Got this in the mail, finally.

Radeon 9800 Pro?

Yes, the 128MB version.

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appiah4 wrote:

This was my originally intended card for my Socket 754 system but in the meantime I obtained an X1950PRO AGP.. Stick to that, or replace with this? Choices..

Are you planning to use 98? If yes, X1950 is out of the question. Otherwise, for XP it's clearly faster choice.

I have quite a few Windows 98 PCs, I think my K6-2/V2-SLI and Tualatin/GF3Ti PC have me covered for early and Win98 gaming. The Socket 754 will be a Win2K or WinXP PC, most likely WinXP (I will install Win2K on my Dell/Compaq OEM P3s).

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Reply 25575 of 52742, by bjwil1991

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Reply 25577 of 52742, by bjwil1991

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oeuvre wrote:

How were they?

Pretty good. Wish I can find a 5.1 surround speakers for my Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 Platinum sound card, or a sound bar would suffice (not sure if the SPDIF is DOS friendly or not) since I have the IR drive installed with the remote control (Windows 98SE only) and MIDI in/out for hooking up a Roland MT-32, SC-55, or equivalent.

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Reply 25579 of 52742, by Skyscraper

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I ordered 200 euros worth of capacitors from Mouser.

Panasonic FR and Nichicon HZ series.

I still need more sizes and as I only got 1000uF and 1500uF, mostly 8mm with 3.5mm spacing this time around but as they have free shipping on orders above 50 euro (+VAT) I can just aswell make another order later.

I will use Panasonic FR to recap the non working Socket 8 to Socket 370 adapter. I think they should be a good match for the bulging "NKCON" caps that are there now...

I'm not really sure my tip for my solder station is suited for the job as the solder pads seem to be less than 1mm wide with about the width of a hair to the surrounding ground plane... One cap is easier to replace than the other 4 though as it dosn't have a ground plane around the pad and luckily thats the one that is really bulging so that is where I will start.

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