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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby BitWrangler » 2017-10-21 @ 20:38

w00t, anything less than $50 is a great deal on those, considering the CPU is meant to have a gram of gold in it.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby xeon3d » 2017-10-21 @ 20:58

Sadly that's also one of the main reasons you don't get these as easily. In my 20 something years of fiddling with computers, this was the first one I saw, used and bought.

Sadly I forgot about taking a photo of the Riva 128ZX that I also got the other day...
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby gdjacobs » 2017-10-21 @ 23:28

xeon3d wrote:...
First thing I noticed when he opened the trunk
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I love that case. Nice amalgamation of ATX with the extra port knockouts like a proper AT case.
xeon3d wrote:...
Full of "cotton" (how do you call this in English?)
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More "cotton"
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_bunny
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CQM? Boo!

Awesome price for a PPro, though.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby lazibayer » 2017-10-22 @ 02:13

xeon3d wrote:
Got a Maxtor 9.1GB IDE HDD (I was hoping SCSI.. but oh well)
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It's a 10.2GB 5400RPM drive with 2 heads.
https://www.hdsentinel.com/storageinfo_ ... %2091021U2
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby F2bnp » 2017-10-22 @ 07:26

What a coincidence. I just bought one of these boards along with a PPro 200 and am testing it out right now.

Lovely system you got, at a terrific price and with a funny story to tell :D.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Munx » 2017-10-22 @ 07:55

A trip to a carboot sale and 4 Euros just got me a mystery speed Slot-1 P3 coppermine and a (quite dusty) Radeon DDR 64MB
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby meljor » 2017-10-22 @ 10:11

The p3 coppermine without the plastic casing: is there any way to see what speed it is?

I can get lots of those at the recycler but it is always a wild guess. No cache chips means coppermine i get that, but otherwise i have no clue as to what speed it is... At least with the old celerons they had a little white lable with the speed written on it.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Munx » 2017-10-22 @ 11:09

I tried googling all the numbers on it, but found nothing.
My Slot 1 board (440bx from Aopen) always misjudges and sets the CPU speed slower that it's rated for by default so I guess there is no way to know. At least for now.

EDIT: OK, I just realized that since P3's have locked multipliers, jumper-less multiplier motherboards should be able to pick up the multiplier right away and avoid any errors there. From that point it's a matter of testing FSB speeds and seeing which one doesn't crash.

Pretty tedious and no way to check quickly, but it should work...
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby brostenen » 2017-10-22 @ 11:43

cyclone3d wrote:Saw a Guillemot Maxi Studio ISIS pop up on eBay for cheap and grabbed it immediately.

It is missing the daughterboard so I won't be able to hook up the external box but for the price I couldn't pass it up.

Seller also said it comes what he thinks is the original shipping box even though it wasn't pictured.

Supposedly this card also has DOS support, so we will see how it fares once I get it.

The chipset is an ESS Maestro 2-EM and the wavetable is a Dream 9707.

It has 4MB onboard RAM and the official specs say it can be upgraded to 36MB RAM. I saw somewhere that the chipset supports up to 64MB so I may try a larger stick IF I can get one cheap enough.

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Google archived magazine article that has a mini review along with some other cards.
https://books.google.com/books?id=0QEAAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT59&lpg=PT59&dq=Guillemot+Maxi+Studio+Isis+DOS&source=bl&ots=3eMqwNt0G4&sig=UmsRVjHmxiXMotdyrimJgxzWwqI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiG7uOM6v_WAhUl_4MKHdl2BG44ChDoAQhlMAk#v=onepage&q=Guillemot%20Maxi%20Studio%20Isis%20DOS&f=false


Really interested in knowing how compatible it is with Dos. I have an ISA card with a dream chip on it, though it sucks for OPL, it has a real nice sound to it. Little lesser authentic sounding instruments than the Dreamblaster-S1, yet a lot warmer in the sound quality. The Dreamblaster actually sounds more metallic or cold than my Tango card. None the less, both sounds really awesomme. So the question is, how does your card actually sound, compared to something like the Dreamblaster-S1/X1/X2 daughterboards, and how well does it play OPL.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Gered » 2017-10-22 @ 14:46

Arrived yesterday:

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First time owning one of these, very happy with the difference it makes in the games which support it.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby Private_Ops » 2017-10-23 @ 00:04

lazibayer wrote:It's a 10.2GB 5400RPM drive with 2 heads.
https://www.hdsentinel.com/storageinfo_ ... %2091021U2



Pretty sure I have one of those. Decent drive? I've used it some and it seems ok.
I can't decide on any single machine specs to put here.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby meljor » 2017-10-23 @ 09:13

Munx wrote:I tried googling all the numbers on it, but found nothing.
My Slot 1 board (440bx from Aopen) always misjudges and sets the CPU speed slower that it's rated for by default so I guess there is no way to know. At least for now.

EDIT: OK, I just realized that since P3's have locked multipliers, jumper-less multiplier motherboards should be able to pick up the multiplier right away and avoid any errors there. From that point it's a matter of testing FSB speeds and seeing which one doesn't crash.

Pretty tedious and no way to check quickly, but it should work...


I meant finding out the speed by the numbers only. Using actual hardware and software i found a way: hwinfo32
It gives the actual s-spec number(s) for the cpu, that way you can be certain what speed it is. Otherwise it is very difficult as for example my 750mhz runs also fine at 7,5x133 (1ghz).
Using this and a Via based (133fsb, jumperless) board i managed to find out about several ''naked'' slot1 cpu's i got.

I would like to know if those numbers printed on the core mean anything and have some logic. That way i can know which to buy at the scrapper, as they all arrive there without the plastics.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby debs3759 » 2017-10-23 @ 10:26

meljor wrote:I meant finding out the speed by the numbers only. Using actual hardware and software i found a way: hwinfo32
It gives the actual s-spec number(s) for the cpu, that way you can be certain what speed it is. Otherwise it is very difficult as for example my 750mhz runs also fine at 7,5x133 (1ghz).


Different speed CPUs in the same family use the same die, with minor tweaks to set the stock speed. If you overclock (or underclock) the processor, hwinfo32 will give s-spec numbers that correspond to the speed you are running at. So it is no guarantee that it is accurate unless your board auto detects the correct speed. There are no programming routines to detect what speed it should be running at. As such, the s-specs returned by the app cannot be guaranteed to be correct.

For example, if you run your 750MHz processor at 133 MHz fsb instead of 100, hwinfo32 will give you the s-specs for a 1 GHz processor.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby bjwil1991 » 2017-10-23 @ 11:25

BitWrangler wrote:Funnily enough I got a Maxtor 80GB "maybe new" at a thrift a little while back. Diamondmax 10, didn't realise until I got it home, just thought AS bag would be taped up, realised it was sealed and label on it matched model number etc.


I have the pictures of the hard drive and many others.

60GB Maxtor Hard drive (new):

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IBM Model M Keyboard:

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Adaptec CardPark ISA to PCMCIA (new):

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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby jaZz_KCS » 2017-10-23 @ 11:55

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Gravis Stinger serial game pad - already found working driver combo for XP and up. Original drivers for W9x included. This gamepad is very special, not only the only serial one I know of, but also the analogue stick works with "magnetic sensors", which is rather odd for game pads.


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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby brostenen » 2017-10-23 @ 13:39

An A604n memory expansion for Amiga600...

https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/shop/product/a604n.html
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby bjwil1991 » 2017-10-23 @ 13:49

brostenen wrote:An A604n memory expansion for Amiga600...

https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/shop/product/a604n.html

Nice add-on. It's interesting that the card does much more than memory extension.
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby brostenen » 2017-10-23 @ 14:06

bjwil1991 wrote:
brostenen wrote:An A604n memory expansion for Amiga600...

https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/shop/product/a604n.html

Nice add-on. It's interesting that the card does much more than memory extension.


True that... I wanted the expandability in my Amiga. Anyway.... Bought more.
A 4gb CF card and then a CF to PcCard adaptor with a driver disk.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-PCMCIA-Adapter-for-CF-Compact-Flash-Card-for-Amiga-600-1200-Driver-229-/111233872254?hash=item19e60e317e:g:3rAAAOSw2x1XLGgH
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby derSammler » 2017-10-23 @ 17:29

* Roland SC-7
* Slot 1 Pentium II 400 MHz
* 2x 16 MB PS/2 EDO
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Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today

Postby BitWrangler » 2017-10-23 @ 17:37

derSammler wrote: 2x 16 MB PS/2 EDO

If you mean actual PS/2 SIMMs not just 72 pin, then be aware they may detect as 1MB or something in other systems... http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohlandl/config/m ... tification
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