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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 27320 of 52766, by Windows9566

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430HX ATX board duo

found a Intel TC430HX and Advanced/ML

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The TC430HX has 512k L2 Cache and the Advanced/ML has 256k L2 Cache

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both have 16mb ram

R5 5600X, 32 GB RAM, RTX 3060 TI, Win11
P3 600, 256 MB RAM, nVidia Riva TNT2 M64, SB Vibra 16S, Win98
PMMX 200, 128 MB RAM, S3 Virge DX, Yamaha YMF719, Win95
486DX2 66, 32 MB RAM, Trident TGUI9440, ESS ES688F, DOS

Reply 27321 of 52766, by yawetaG

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keropi wrote:
what I really meant was DOS gaming :lol: yes the cakewalk driver is advertised on the box , I suspect though it will heavily r […]
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yawetaG wrote:

It can work under DOS, but only with specially developed drivers. One is included for Cakewalk for DOS, and I plan to try to decompile it...

what I really meant was DOS gaming 🤣
yes the cakewalk driver is advertised on the box , I suspect though it will heavily rely on cakewalk itself.
Please report on the windows driver when you test it, maybe it adds full mpu401 functionality similar to what softmpu does.

Unlikely, because they also had a separate MPU-401 compatible card. But I'll make a separate topic for the WinMan.

My idea behind decompiling the Cakewalk DOS driver was to try and discover whether it's possible to write a generic DOS driver, since the existence of the Cakewalk driver likely means it's not dependent on some specific Windows-only feature.

Reply 27322 of 52766, by dionb

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Heads up: after a 4h drive I got myself another car full again today 😜

It was "take everything or nothing" and I wanted something, so got it all. That does mean that over half the volume stays in the car and goes to the local thrift intake/recycler - mainly ink jet printers in bulky boxes, a flatbed scanner, a few really ratty incomplete cases, three 1995-ish ADI monitors in such bad state the plastic started crumbling on the way to the car. Oh, and a complete-in-box Compaq Presario with flat CRT (diamondtron by the look of it) monitor. Beautiful, but too late for me and I simply don't have room.

Because of the rest. Pics later, but we're talking 7 AT cases, 4 laptops and 8 boxes which supposedly contain good stuff. I've only opened two of the boxes so far, but already spotted an Ark 1000PV VLB card, a Korg midi module, a LS-120 drive and of course the IBM Model M that lured me there in the first place. Happy evening 😀

Reply 27325 of 52766, by bmwsvsu

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Building a Slot 1 Pentium II (dual CPU) with all brand-new parts. Parts above thus far:

-DTK Motherboard w/Intel 440LX chipset
-300 MHZ Pentium II processors (x2)
-GeForce FX5500 AGP video card
-ESS ES1869 ISA sound card
-Lite On 52x CD ROM drive
-Generic Beige/Blue Tower case w/400-watt Duro Power supply

Still needed:
-Hard drive (probably going to cheat here and go with a solid state IDE drive, either 16 or 32 GB)
-RAM (the EDO ram pictured above didn't work in this system even though specs suggest it should; a stick of used SD ram I had lying around got the thing to boot up)
-Floppy drive
-5.25" Bay fan (the CPU's run a little warmer than I'd like with just heatsinks and no fans)
-PCI or ISA network card
-PCI USB 2.0 card
-Some sort of card reader for one of the unused bay drives in the front

Building a machine with all new parts from this era isn't easy! I got lucky finding a few of these at reasonable prices.

Since Windows 98 can't take advantage of the second CPU, I'm going to be dual-installing Windows 98 alongside either 2000 or XP.

Reply 27326 of 52766, by SW-SSG

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bmwsvsu wrote:

-5.25" Bay fan (the CPU's run a little warmer than I'd like with just heatsinks and no fans)

You're... going to need it, yes. Honestly I'd also point a fan or two at those CPUs, especially if they are the original Klamath core ones with the ~43w TDPs.

Reply 27327 of 52766, by bmwsvsu

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SW-SSG wrote:
bmwsvsu wrote:

-5.25" Bay fan (the CPU's run a little warmer than I'd like with just heatsinks and no fans)

You're... going to need it, yes. Honestly I'd also point a fan or two at those CPUs, especially if they are the original Klamath core ones with the ~43w TDPs.

Yep - that is precisely what they are. 300mhz Klamath CPU's with 43w TDP each.

They don't appear to be designed to mount fans directly to the heatsinks. And while I can't find it right now, I know I read somewhere that the exact variation I have (80522PX300512EC SL28R) specifically shipped with just a heatsink and no fan.

The problem is that they'll be right underneath the power supply in the case so I absolutely have to get some airflow to them. I may investigate mounting a small fan to each heatsink.

Reply 27328 of 52766, by Old PC Hunter

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Today I went to the thriftstore and got a lucky find, I found an ABIT IC7 MAX3 motherboard at the thriftstore+full pc. The ABIT mobo has a 2.8 ghz P4, and 1 GB DDR400 RAM. Iv'e seen these mobos go for 300+ dollars, and it even has an AGP Pro slot! I walked away with it all for only $9.99! Iv'e been testing it, but I have not gotten it to complete POST yet.

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Set up retro boxes:
DOS:286 10 MHZ/ET4000AX1MB/270 MB HDD/4 MB RAM/Adlib/80287 XL
W98:P2 450/Radeon 7000 64 MB/23 GB HDD/SB 16 clone/384 MB RAM
XP:ATHLON X2 6000+/2 GB RAM/Radeon X1900XTX/2x120 GB SSD/1x160 GB and 1x250 GB 7.2k HDD's/ECS A740 GM-M/SB X-Fi

Reply 27329 of 52766, by Ozzuneoj

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dionb wrote:

Because of the rest. Pics later, but we're talking 7 AT cases, 4 laptops and 8 boxes which supposedly contain good stuff. I've only opened two of the boxes so far, but already spotted an Ark 1000PV VLB card, a Korg midi module, a LS-120 drive and of course the IBM Model M that lured me there in the first place. Happy evening 😀

Ugh! I have gotten a few neat things from local lots, but that's some really great stuff! Have fun! 🤣

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 27330 of 52766, by dionb

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^ pics pics pics!

Took me a bit longer as apart from taking children to bed, I also had to do emergency triage on battery-eaten motherboards before I could get down to it.

But that's done now - you want pr0n? Here you go...

Systems, monitors and motherboards:
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Other PCBs:
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Peripherals:
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Highlights:
- That shiny black-fronted AT case
- Nostalgic IBM 8513, same as on our old 1988 PS/2 (but FILTHY)
- Gigabyte GA-BX2000 in box with original manual.
- Asus PCI/I-P5SP4, arguably the single best So4 board out there (with SiS501 chipset)
- Tiny baby-AT system (under the IBM 8513) with GMB-386SAT motherboard with Cx486SLC/e-33GP. Unfortunately very badly eaten PCB :'(
- There's a Diamond Speedstar 24 (Tseng ET4000AX) in one of the minitowers.
- Ark 1000PV VLB card (1MB populated, but 2MB possible) and for good measure its PCI twin too.
- Elsa Victory Erazor/LT-8SD Riva128ZX AGP
- Trust Korg SuperSound MIDI module
- Weird Longshine LCS-6633 SCSI, FDD *and* IDE controller
- Huge Datamedia EGA card with DE, RJ11 (?) and BNC connectors
- IBM Model M, ISO unfortunately, otherwise a beautiful 1990 clicky.
- Laser/Keytech FKF456K-102 board with Alps White switches and a useful XT/AT selector.
- Internal LS120 drive
- Huge PSU that looks like it fits into the huge AT bigtower. Would be nice as a normal AT PSU wouldn't fit...

Not bad, at least not at first glance. Now to see if any of that stuff works. Or rather: tomorrow. I'm dead.

I'll leave you with a pic of the worst corroded motherboard, I'd love to get this working as I don't have any other boards small enough for that tiny case - but I'm not optimistic.
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Just look at that green area to the right of the keyboard connector. All the brown colour has been eaten from the PCB 😢

Reply 27332 of 52766, by dionb

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liqmat wrote:

Fantastic ^^^ What model is that large PSU? Second one in from the left.

It's a Suntek, listed as 230W, but I can't find a model number.

Reply 27333 of 52766, by liqmat

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dionb wrote:
liqmat wrote:

Fantastic ^^^ What model is that large PSU? Second one in from the left.

It's a Suntek, listed as 230W, but I can't find a model number.

Ok. Yeah, I am looking for exactly that size AT PSU, but a 300W as I have a full server tower that just blew a PSU exactly that size from Enermax. That haul should keep you busy for a while.

Reply 27334 of 52766, by cyclone3d

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Cyrix200+ wrote:
This 8 bit ISA mystery soundcard: (sellers pictures) […]
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This 8 bit ISA mystery soundcard: (sellers pictures)

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FCC ID turns up almost nothing: https://fccid.io/JFQ

Found the driver for it:
http://minuszerodegrees.net/manuals/unknown/s … ersion_1.01.zip

From this page:
http://minuszerodegrees.net/manuals.htm

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Reply 27335 of 52766, by SpeedySPCFan

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Not today but a few days ago - bought an SD-20 off of an acquaintance on Discord. They couldn't get some things like the USB audio to work on their end and were trying to sell it on eBay, so I offered to buy it off of them over DMs with PayPal. Two days left for it to arrive 😁
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Reply 27336 of 52766, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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Predator99 wrote:
Indeed, sounds quite high for me. Bute the value is difficult to estimate. Only found one sold item […]
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luckybob wrote:

$1200? That smells like bullshit to me. I can see $120, MAYBE, but $1200?

Indeed, sounds quite high for me. Bute the value is difficult to estimate. Only found one sold item

https://www.ebay.de/itm/AdLib-Music-Synthesiz … =p2047675.l2557

But this seems to be a buy-at-once offer therefore the price might have been to low.

Indeed, the listing I was looking at was for a boxed complete card.

So the card itself is still probably worth 3 to 400 dollars/

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Reply 27337 of 52766, by Munx

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A lovely (if quite dusty) AT case! Inside is a 430tx Asus motherboard, ceramic P166mmx, ATI Mach64 VT2 and an ISA sound card with a Crystal chip. No sight of a turbo button, yet there is a spot for a number display (which you can bet will be put to use).

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I paid 10€ for it when the guy who sells this stuff usually asks for 3-5. I think hes catching on that Im willing to shell out more for this stuff 🤣

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The FireStarter 2.0 - The wooden K5
The Underdog - The budget K6
The Voodoo powerhouse - The power-hungry K7
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